Lt. Colonel Remo Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 [quote name='Deuce Gorgon' timestamp='1354071389' post='6079804'] Seriously, though, I actually [i]like[/i] having spoilers for animanga. It actually makes me want to see it. Like "Wait a sec, what leads up to this?" Or "I wonder what this thing looks like when it actually happens? Of course, it always looks better seeing it in color, with sound, and with fluid motions instead of a series of still-frames. [/quote] Yeah but basically every single major plot twist sans Monster (or Tobi's recent demasking in Naruto) has been spoiled for me one way or another I've almost completely forgotten what it feels like to be blindsided by a really good plot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Posted November 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 All I know about OP, is Art is bleh Everything else is solid Really solid Still prefer Fairy Tail tho, cuz it's like OP, but art that is REALLY appealing, at least to me :333 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spirit of DMG Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 [quote name='Captain Remo' timestamp='1354071851' post='6079812'] Yeah but basically every single major plot twist sans Monster (or Tobi's recent demasking in Naruto) has been spoiled for me one way or another I've almost completely forgotten what it feels like to be blindsided by a really good plot [/quote]I knew that Ichigo went full hollow against Ulquiorra even before it happened in the English version of the Manga. It was still epic to see how it actually went down, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion X. Denver Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 [quote name='Captain Remo' timestamp='1354069371' post='6079767'] [spoiler 'don't want to spoil anything for Sonic but..'] So, given the obsession I see on other forums (well, mostly just One Manga' forum but still) with Eneru/Enel, does he ever come back after Skypiea? Because he was the only character that was able to effectively foil my "What would Aizen do" jig [/spoiler] [/quote] You know those chapter cover stories Oda does? Eneru gets his own, but that's all we've seen. Fairy Tail is a lot like One Piece, though the past few chapters have only been okay, for me at least. But yeah, it's good stuff. Remo, you were spoiled about Tobi? That sucks...I remember reading that chapter thinking, "No...no, it can't. Everyone said it was impossible, maybe it's just his bod-OH MY GOD IT'S HIM." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.WHAM Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 Ahh that Obito feel. I REALLY love One Piece because they don't waste chapters like bleach or flashback forever like Naruto. They always have good chaps like Fairy Tail, which brings me to fuse. Why have the chapters been only okay for you? I've loved this arc especially Erza and Natsus moments. And I have a copy of Ninja Storm Generations and I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion X. Denver Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 [quote name='Mr.WHAM' timestamp='1354081598' post='6079927'] Ahh that Obito feel. I REALLY love One Piece because they don't waste chapters like bleach or flashback forever like Naruto. They always have good chaps like Fairy Tail, which brings me to fuse. Why have the chapters been only okay for you? I've loved this arc especially Erza and Natsus moments. And I have a copy of Ninja Storm Generations and I like it. [/quote] By recent chapters I meant from 300 on. I was expecting some crazy stuff leading to apocalypse after that build-up with Levy, but so far it's FT fighting random people. Though the few bits with Sabertooth have been interesting. I also have Generations and like it; got a PSN? Or is this for Xbox... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 [quote name='Mr.WHAM' timestamp='1354081598' post='6079927'] Ahh that Obito feel. I REALLY love One Piece because they don't waste chapters like bleach or flashback forever like Naruto. They always have good chaps like Fairy Tail, which brings me to fuse. Why have the chapters been only okay for you? I've loved this arc especially Erza and Natsus moments. And I have a copy of Ninja Storm Generations and I like it. [/quote] That is literally the best argument I have seen for why One Piece is supposed to be better than Naruto and Bleach. I keep hearing it's the best of the three, but I've never understood why. Pacing seems to be the strongest thing it has. I have to agree, however, that Fairy Tail has been meh rather lately. The arc started off by introducing a bunch of threads rather quickly, which I like, but Mashima doesn't seem to be balancing them properly. Raven Tail was incredibly disappointing, since I wanted them to get more development, and Sabertooth infuriates me. First I hated Rogue and Sting. Then Rogue showed enough compassion to make me want to give him the only bit of slack in the entire guild. Then he became all obsessed with his rivalry with Gajeel again, and now I'm supposed to feel bad for [i]Sting[/i], who up until recently was one of the most unrepentant jerks in the who arc, and considering Sabertooth as a whole, that's saying something. Now it feels like Minerva is the Big Bad of the arc, but even then that part is so unclear that I hesitate to even call her that. [quote name='Fusion X. Denver' timestamp='1354082080' post='6079928']I also have Generations and like it; got a PSN? Or is this for Xbox...[/quote] It's a relief seeing someone else who has a PS3. However, I don't have any Naruto gets, but I'll probably get Storm 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.WHAM Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 @Roxas Im going to assume, shamefully though, that you know about a thread on this site that talked about Naruto VS. Bleach Vs. One Piece among other manga. One Piece definitely has some greatness to it and by far has a great rep, but the reason why one piece doesn't beat Naruto in my eyes is that it lacks the feels that Naruto constantly supplies. Im not saying that it isn't well written but if Naruto and One Piece were both books. Naruto would have been the first to be made into a terrible visual portrayal of its events. @Fuse Nah it's for 360 but hopefully my brother will buy the PS3 I also look forward to 3 and Naruto is the equivalent of Goku in any budokai game with SS4 Gogeta currently being Sage Mode. The game does an amazing depiction of why Sasuke cannot beat Naruto with out the use of Susanoo by the way and there still may be a chance that Susanoo wont change much. @FT The mood swings have been a bit unsettling but I can understand their overall purpose. In the way Mashima is writing seems to allude to the whole idea of impending apocalypse and moreso chaos that is about to go down. Lucy and the other girl and that 13th spirit are about to cause SOMETHING big to go down, I don't know what though. I am kinda hoping we flash over to the fighting in the tourney and see the end result of fight with Natsu and the others and have One of them explain what went down. As for Sting, I feel no pity for him as Minerva did the right thing for his mind in the current situation which is force him to turn his crippling weakness into his greatest strength, something that Mavis did not account for and is the reason why I fear the fairies need Natsu for this upcoming round. She is also setting him up for betrayal and what may lead to her downfall because she doesn't have Sting's cat and he is dead.him to Rogue is very simple. He will fight Gajeel and end up respecting him which will eventually cause him to leave Sabertooth. Both Sting and Rogue are shaping up to be nice members of Fairy Tail if not perma rivals. As far as Raven Tail is concerned I believe that there was too much coincidentally unexplained for them to be finished. I believe that Minerva the actual one is dead or just gone because the member of Raven Tail that took Wendy's magic drained her dry and used shapeshifting magic to appear as her. That would explain the whole big bad thing and the whole not kicking the crap out of Sting. My 1 and ONLY concern with Fairy Tail at this moment are What is the backstory behind Godslayer magic and how is it related to Acnologia and Zeref. In addition will Nastu or any other Slayers get it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion X. Denver Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 PS3's where it's at. I'm not as into online gaming as much, so I didn't see the point in getting a system where I'd have to pay for it. I'm gonna get Storm 3 too, it looks boss. And maybe Raven Tail will play a bigger role when apocalypse breaks loose? I dunno, but you're not really wrong. [quote name='Mr.WHAM' timestamp='1354089460' post='6079968'] Naruto is the equivalent of Goku in any budokai game with SS4 Gogeta currently being Sage Mode. [/quote] Bro, bro...no. Naruto [i]maybe[/i] can be on par with Super Saiyan Goku now, but that's it. The reason you see those Sage Mode-SS4 comparisons is because they have the same effect on the eyes. I don't know if Sting or Rogue would join, but I can see the other spirit-key girl joining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Posted November 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 The only anime to even come close to DBZ power level is Negima... One Piece, Bleach and Naruto are all around the same level. Oh and I love how I have a Wii I got for free, all packaged (Black, too, so it looks pimp) and I haven't even installed it And Idk if I should, since the Wii U is coming out Or maybe I'll get the Wii U when the new SSB comes out =P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Chaos Sonic Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 [quote name='Darklink401' timestamp='1354130949' post='6080270'] Or maybe I'll get the Wii U when the new SSB comes out =P [/quote] I might do the same...just cause I'm lazy XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.WHAM Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 No what I meant by that was in the game. As far as power levels I can say One Piece and Bleach are about the same with One Piece currently pulling ahead. As for Naruto it is reaching high up there. I don't know about Negima because Im still in the 100s, but Naruto can def be considered SS or possibly even Mystic level, when he's smart about. But then again in a fight between Itachi and Goku my vote goes to Itachi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion X. Denver Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 [quote name='Darklink401' timestamp='1354130949' post='6080270'] The only anime to even come close to DBZ power level is Negima... [b]You mean manga, right?[/b] [b]Unless the anime got farther than I thought.[/b] [b]And dude, TTGL![/b] One Piece, Bleach and Naruto are all around the same level. [b]It's actually bothering me that I can't figure out whether Naruto, Ichigo, or Luffy would win in a fight. Or which respective universe has a stronger cast.[/b] [b]I'd say universe-wise, Naruto's falls short, but he himself has ascended to god-tier and he definitely stands a chance against any shinigami now.[/b] [b]And with One Piece upgrading so much in the New World, it's hard to measure how they'd fare against the shinigamis. Though they'd probably make a good fight with ninjas.[/b] [b]I dunno, let's just say they're all around the same to make things easier.[/b] Oh and I love how I have a Wii I got for free, all packaged (Black, too, so it looks pimp) and I haven't even installed it [b]How'd you even get it?[/b] And Idk if I should, since the Wii U is coming out Or maybe I'll get the Wii U when the new SSB comes out =P [b]You're gonna have a hard time selling a Wii now that the Wii U's out. I'd say just make the most out of your Wii now and get the Wii U whenever you feel like it.[/b] [/quote] As for me, I'm not expecting Wii U's to be available for a while, so I'll just go about buying one in January-February. [quote name='Mr.WHAM' timestamp='1354135070' post='6080345'] No what I meant by that was in the game. As far as power levels I can say One Piece and Bleach are about the same with One Piece currently pulling ahead. As for Naruto it is reaching high up there. I don't know about Negima because Im still in the 100s, but Naruto can def be considered SS or possibly even Mystic level, when he's smart about. But then again in a fight between Itachi and Goku my vote goes to Itachi. [/quote] I dunno bro, Bleach's got that speed going for it. But you never know. Goku vs Itachi...hard to say. Itachi could win with genjutsu, but he won't win with anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~NOiSE~ Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 New Naruto chapter! [spoiler='Secret stuff']Nothing really crazy...except for Bee's tailed beast ball getting swatted away like it was nothing and every one of the Allied Shinobi Forces arriving on the battlefield to fight Madara and Obito. [/spoiler] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Colonel Remo Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 [quote name='Coral Blue' timestamp='1354142153' post='6080461'] New Naruto chapter! [spoiler='Secret stuff']Nothing really crazy...except for Bee's tailed beast ball getting swatted away like it was nothing and every one of the Allied Shinobi Forces arriving on the battlefield to fight Madara and Obito. [/spoiler] [/quote] [spoiler 'I know right?'] Seriously, it flicked away the freaking Eight tails like it was a fly >.> [/spoiler] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.WHAM Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 For the 3 way fight between One Piece, Naruto, and Bleach, I give it to Naruto. Luffy is quite impressive in terms of raw power and durability but he doesn't have much resistance to energy attacks like the other too. I'd say that he normally doesn't get hit by them. Ichigo is the real problem because as he was, he could definately do some damage especially close ranged impacts. Naruto can match his speed with the Fox cloak and BOTH Luffy's and Naruto's wills are far superior to him; in all honesty, they have his will (protection) along side their own personal goals. If Naruto can convince/manipulate Luffy to take out Ichigo and he's won the fight. However, Naruto might have this alone because he can make MANY sage mode clones as well as multiple human cloak clones. Naruto's current destructive power might actually pass Ichigo's because when Ichigo demonstrated his new strength in the full bring arc he did do a bit of home razing and such so I'll give him that but at the same time Naruto's got things like the Rasenshuriken, Fuuton: Rasengan, Rasenvacuum, Oodama Rasengan, et. Luffy has what we can call a basic sharingan and earth style hardening capabilties. That combination will be difficult to deal with in battle but nothing that Naruto hasn't handled before. I might be a bit more biased but he does seem most likely to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Colonel Remo Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 Well, Wham-san, which Ichigo are we talking about here? Current Ichigo doesn't have [color=#ffffff]Bull Ichigo [/color]and I'm pretty sure he lost the abilities he had when he [color=#ffffff]tr[/color][color=#FFFFFF]ained in the Dangai since all of the reiatsu pooled into him were collected before said Dangai training and subsequent Mugetsu[/color][color="#ffffff"] along with losing all his fullbring power to Ginjo at the end of the Fullbring arc[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.WHAM Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 I'm talking about Ichigo after he gained his powers back at the end of the fullbring arc before he lost his Bankai. That Ichigo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Colonel Remo Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 Yeah basically that's a pre-power up kind of Ichigo Baically ever since the Soul Society arc, there has always been an Ichigo before the mysterious power inside him is explain/shown and after it is explained/shown. Examples would be Ichigo before/after Bankai, Ichigo before/after gain Hichigo mask powers, Ichigo before/after Bull Ichigo, Ichigo before/after Dangai training, and Ichigo before/after explanation of his fullbring's powers Basically his fight with Juha was showing Ichigo before he gets full [color=#ffffff]Quincy[/color] power tl;dr That Ichigo is before any special powerups so Kubo intentionally made him much weaker than "normal". It wouldn't be very accurate of Ichigo's full potential Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.WHAM Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 Possibly. There's still the whole unaddressed issue of whether or not Ichigo has hollow powers which he should in my mind. Mugetsu Ichigo was a Super Saiyan 4 and Bull Ichigo was SS2. Unfortunately he can no longer reach either of those max caps so Its basically an Ichigo that will find his power cap in battle, though after his powers returned to him he was SIGNIFICANTLY stronger than before normally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 No, I've heard that One Piece has [i]a lot[/i] of feels, and it's very likely Naruto has taken more time than One Piece did to produce that amount of feels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.WHAM Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 [quote name='Phantom Roxas' timestamp='1354150607' post='6080568'] No, I've heard that One Piece has [i]a lot[/i] of feels, and it's very likely Naruto has taken more time than One Piece did to produce that amount of feels. [/quote] Actually that would be a better way of saying it, because in my previous statement I did make iot look like that One Piece has few. The point was that Naruto's feels reached deeper more often in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion X. Denver Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 Eh To be honest, I'd say One Piece has a [i]lot[/i] more feels than Naruto. A lot of good ones too. Flashbacks can be tedious, but Oda definitely knows how to use them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.WHAM Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 So are we at a Mexican standoff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 I propose a compromise. They are both better than Bleach. And Beelzebub beats all of them.[color=#ffffff] Okay, maybe not Naruto.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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