Akira Posted June 17, 2011 Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 [quote name='Joey Miles' timestamp='1308308961' post='5289686'] btw t bible verse about the gay stuff wasnt in the original hebrew or cathloic bible(which is where all the other bibles derive from) so yeah it was put in there. and heck to be honest i am a christan and let me say i still believe God loves me. the bible was written by MAN! it may be his word but our hands wrote it and our hands have corrupted. the only uncorrepted versions are the new testitmate from the original cathloic bible(i am cathloic btw so ive read it) and the old testimate from the hebrew bible. so insted of being ignorate and bring up this dumb arguement and say that the bible is just a gospal and the gay verses are really supposed to be there go find something else to do. [/quote] I'm not really sure what you're trying to say, or even if you read/understood my post properly... take a bit more time over your posts so at least the grammar is comprehensible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted June 17, 2011 Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 [quote name='Akira' timestamp='1308315568' post='5289789'] I'm not really sure what you're trying to say, or even if you read/understood my post properly... take a bit more time over your posts so at least the grammar is comprehensible. [/quote] He's saying the version you're reading includes stuff that wasn't in the old version. It would be easy to understand if you took time to read the first sentence at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akira Posted June 17, 2011 Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 I got that part. But then he said something about being ignorant or using some argument, and I don't even know who he's referring to in that part. If anything, what he's saying supports my posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Frost Posted June 17, 2011 Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 [quote name='Joey Miles' timestamp='1308308961' post='5289686'] btw the bible verse about gay[b]/homosexuality being a sin[/b] wasn't in the original hebrew or cathloic bible (which is where all the other bibles derive from) so yeah it was put in there.[/quote] Pretty straight forward, and also the readers of the Bible have to understand that the Bible is supposed to be interpreted from the point of view of the writer! If not, the meanings are jumbled and mixed with others incoherently, giving you an entirely new definition or interpretation. BUT this is not the case here! We're supposed to be interpreting the "word of God" but these aren't the words of God unless he wrote them! You'll see why he should have written them him/herself in a little bit. [quote name='Joey Miles' timestamp='1308308961' post='5289686'] and heck to be honest i am a christan and let me say i still believe God loves me. [/quote] And he should. From the written works (and from belief itself) God is a "Forgiving" being. He's all for the Forgiving of sins and things, and tries to love everyone! He's the essence of good and holy! [quote name='Joey Miles' timestamp='1308308961' post='5289686'] the bible was written by MAN! it may be his word but our hands wrote it and our hands have corrupted. [/quote] Completely agree with this. For all we know, the Bible (no offence to everyone who thinks the Bible is pure and good) could be muddled with what is known as white lies. Sure, most of the words will be God's, but between his words could be the words of humans, the writers, and those words could be white lies. We're human, therefore we can and most of the time will sin. It's in our nature, and from the looks of it will always be. The writers were human too, so why should they be excluded from sinning? [quote name='Joey Miles' timestamp='1308308961' post='5289686'] the only uncorrepted versions are the new testitmate from the original cathloic bible(i am cathloic btw so ive read it) and the old testimate from the hebrew bible.[/quote] Okay, I'm not so sure if the Old Testimate is as pure as it is said either. Books and passages influenced by humanity will tend to obtain the influence of humanity in general. The same thing could have happened to the Hebrew Bible as what I just said above. [quote name='Joey Miles' timestamp='1308308961' post='5289686']so insted of being ignorate and bring up this dumb arguement and say that the bible is just a gospal and the gay verses are really supposed to be there go find something else to do. [/quote] You know...that is interesting. This is in an essence a form of an attack against gays for being...gay! It's incoherent violence, and for what? Having a preference with someone who has the same preferences as us? That's just a form of bullying... And all of this brings me back to this: [quote name='Cody Frost' timestamp='1308265634' post='5288725'] [url="http://www.otkenyer.hu/truluck/six_bible_passages.html"]Thou with mortal eyes, must now see the truth![/url] Or at least read this. [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyng's Old Account Posted June 17, 2011 Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 Well, Catholic Christianity states that homosexulaity isn't wrong. It's who you are it isn't a sin. However, it says homosexual sex is the sin. This is because sex outside marriage is a sin, and homosexual people cannot be married in the eyes of God, this is only for a man and a woman. Civil partnership gives them equal rights but it isn't a marriage nontheless. This is my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Frost Posted June 17, 2011 Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 [quote name='Kyng of Ice' timestamp='1308317568' post='5289843'] Well, Catholic Christianity states that homosexulaity isn't wrong. It's who you are it isn't a sin. However, it says homosexual sex is the sin. This is because sex outside marriage is a sin, and homosexual people cannot be married in the eyes of God, this is only for a man and a woman. Civil partnership gives them equal rights but it isn't a marriage nontheless. This is my opinion. [/quote] That's almost the same as saying Homosexuality is a sin itself. It only a matter of time before a couple decides to "Rock that body, come on, come on. Rock that body, rock your body". So yeah we're ticking time bombs of "sin"-dom. At least to what you're saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted June 17, 2011 Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 The bible is not God's word... The bible was created by people who THINK they know God's word... In my view God does not give a damn what happens to anybody, and he proves it by doing nothing about the problems facing society today... Therefore I believe God thinks it is fine for Homosexuals to be Homosexuals and get married he just does not care though to tell anybody... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Miles Posted June 17, 2011 Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 yes the cathloic bible says that sex outside of marraige is a sin but cathloics also believe that God forgives everything no matter what except for sucide because you cant prey for forgivness if your dead and akria not gonna waste taime on you not even worth commenting on you if you havnt read in the big bold letters in my signture that says i'm DYSLEXIC! my spelling and grammer is off because of that. anyway lets move on from religion here because no matter what religion is gonna be one that no one agrees on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akira Posted June 17, 2011 Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 [quote name='Joey Miles' timestamp='1308333617' post='5290421'] yes the cathloic bible says that sex outside of marraige is a sin but cathloics also believe that God forgives everything no matter what except for sucide because you cant prey for forgivness if your dead and akria not gonna waste taime on you not even worth commenting on you if you havnt read in the big bold letters in my signture that says i'm DYSLEXIC! my spelling and grammer is off because of that. anyway lets move on from religion here because no matter what religion is gonna be one that no one agrees on. [/quote] CHI-CHI-CHIRUMIRU NOMU YO GENKI CHI-CHI-CHIRUMIRU KONAMIRUKUUUUUUUUUUUU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehmani Posted June 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 http://www.otkenyer.hu/truluck/six_bible_passages.html Cody Frost posted this link that apparently "debunks" the Biblical passages that condemn homosexuality. All this article is is a bunch of wishful-thinking Christians who, like all other Christian sects, have interpreted the Bible in their own way and say that they are right (and that everyone else is wrong). Ring any bells? Generally I find people who say that everyone else is wrong without providing any valid evidence whatsoever are quite worrying people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vough Posted June 18, 2011 Report Share Posted June 18, 2011 [quote name='Akira' timestamp='1308253150' post='5288140'] I'm not being rude, I'm merely stating that using "because the bible said so" is an invalid argument unless you take everything in the bible as gospel. If anybody actually believed and followed every single rule set by that book, they'd find themselves in jail faster than they could say "god have mercy". I'm all for accepting the ideals of others if they present a valid argument, but I get annoyed when people try to use flawed logic and tell me it's reasonable. [/quote] It's not an argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akira Posted June 18, 2011 Report Share Posted June 18, 2011 [quote name='Vough' timestamp='1308369975' post='5291653'] It's not an argument. [/quote] I don't believe in gays (conclusion) because the bible said so (reason). Reason + conclusion = argument by definition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phœnīcius Infīnius VII Posted June 18, 2011 Report Share Posted June 18, 2011 [quote name='Mikhail Nekem'evič Tal' timestamp='1308001572' post='5281167'] "I think they should burn in Hell forever" said my Baptist friend, Benjamin, who politely said that Gays are dirty, disgusting people and deserve to be boiled in sulphur until the end of time. I personally think that Hell would be fabulous. Discuss homosexuals and opinions of them. [/quote] lol. Personally I don't like gays 'cause they're annoying. I think they should go to hell, deep down that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akira Posted June 18, 2011 Report Share Posted June 18, 2011 Bigots, bigots everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frunk Posted June 18, 2011 Report Share Posted June 18, 2011 Let's stop arguing and just have sex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrekstasy Posted June 18, 2011 Report Share Posted June 18, 2011 I have a bunch of gay friends. I dislike homophobia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted June 18, 2011 Report Share Posted June 18, 2011 [quote name='Frunk' timestamp='1308403041' post='5292263'] Let's stop arguing and just have sex. [/quote] I'm with you. Shall we go to my room now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Frost Posted June 18, 2011 Report Share Posted June 18, 2011 [quote name='Frunk' timestamp='1308403041' post='5292263'] Let's stop arguing and just have sex. [/quote] Shuts down almost all the arguments. X3 I like these words! Then again, who doesn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcher boyz Posted June 18, 2011 Report Share Posted June 18, 2011 me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simping For Hina Posted June 18, 2011 Report Share Posted June 18, 2011 Depends on the person, I would only do someone if I known them for a while. Not too fond of meaningless sex. But guys or girls, do not care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whirr Posted June 18, 2011 Report Share Posted June 18, 2011 [quote name='Frunk' timestamp='1308066023' post='5282638'] I didn't say he was. I was making the point that imbeciles like him don't need to make the statement "gays are fine if they don't try and get with me", because I highly suspect that even if a gay person was attracted to him physically (which is not likely as the majority of gay people are not attracted to every male or every other male, but like straight people, are interested in certain things and aspire after a small selection of individuals), they wouldn't be once they realise he is such a douchebag personality-wise for feeling the inexplicable need to make said statement. It can [b]literally[/b] go without saying, and therefore it's really f***ing insulting to have it repeatedly thrown in your face. [/quote] Or maybe you're just a little touchy? Gay people are abnormal to heterosexual people. In fact, "homophobic" isn't as accurate as "xenophobic" in describing them. They simply can't comprehend the attraction between same-sex partners. To be insulted by them feeling uncomfortable is like a comedian being highly insulted because someone doesn't get his joke. They may be narrow minded, but letting it bother you will just piss you off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grunt Issun Posted June 19, 2011 Report Share Posted June 19, 2011 Why can't a comedian be insulted if sombody doesn't get his joke? That seems fairly insulting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A._Sakuyamon Posted June 19, 2011 Report Share Posted June 19, 2011 I love guys & girls. No Dark (reply to a few pages back) i'm not one of these straight guys that pretends over the internet to be Bisexual. That I'm more then sure of lol Anyways.....tbh being gay, straight, bi, beasteality (spelled wrong and spell check not helping me), or any other sexuality is more then fine with me. Love is love after all. I wish people that don't know much about how gay people live would give "30 Days" (with [font=sans-serif][size=2]Morgan Spurlock) Episode, "Straight Man in a Gay World" a watch. I think some would change there opinions if they did. [/size][/font] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whirr Posted June 19, 2011 Report Share Posted June 19, 2011 [quote name='~N~' timestamp='1308446171' post='5293998'] Why can't a comedian be insulted if sombody doesn't get his joke? That seems fairly insulting. [/quote] My point was that a comedian wouldn't spend his time pandering to an audience that doesn't appreciate his humor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frunk Posted June 19, 2011 Report Share Posted June 19, 2011 [quote name='Miror B.' timestamp='1308415456' post='5292691'] I'm with you. Shall we go to my room now? [/quote] Indeed, I'll fetch some jelly and be right with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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