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[quote name='The blazing MARS' timestamp='1307670685' post='5270733']
I have a odd question regarding BSS's ending...

Warning... Spoilers.


When Aqua Brings Terra Back and falls into the [s]endless void of black to save the animators time and money[/s] Dark Realm, wouldn't she land on the other side of the door that Sora,Riku and King Mickey sealed? What happens to her anyway?
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I've played BBS FM so I can answer this. She ends up in a random area. She fights numerous heartless with Eraqus' keyblade until she meets Riku. She meets Ansem at one point after Kingdom Hearts 2. Also, Slifer, would you mind commenting on my valid theory on Terra on the previous page?
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[quote name='ADHD-Guitar' timestamp='1307745453' post='5272699']
So close to beating the first Kingdom Hearts. (Yeah, I'm slow.)

Dragon Maleficent is kicking my ass. =/
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Use Tinkerbell. Dragon Maleficent is easy. Wait till you fight some of the bosses on KHII. But They're Hellafun, Much better than KH1 Boss fights. You playing the series in order?
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[quote name='ADHD-Guitar' timestamp='1307755681' post='5273092']
OMG RIKU IS IMPOSSIBLE!!! D=

And yes, I'm playing the series in order. Should I play (Re) Chain of Memories next or go for KH2 first? And is 356/2 days worth the money/time?
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Play Re: CoM first. And 358/2 could just be youtubed and/or wiki'd for anything important.
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[quote name='JadenxAtemYAOI' timestamp='1307336137' post='5260009']
I'd prefer that they remake Days honestly. It would be lovely to play as Roxas so you can kick Sora's ass. If Roxas wanted to, he could have destroyed the entire organization if he wanted. The one thing I'm glad to have noticed is that Lea is coming back<3 We killed enough fire bosses and fire heartless for one to be him<333 I really hope Kingdom Hearts three goes by the idea I formed. Team 1: Sora, Riku, Kairi. Team 2: Mickey, Donald, Goofy. Team 3(my fav) Roxas, Axel, Xion. Team 4: Terra, Ventus, Aqua.

On a more separate note I would like for people to comment with thoughts on this *problem*
Problem: Xemnas went to Hallow bastion to a room similar to the one Ventus is in. Xigbar said Xemnas talked to the armor and sometimes it talked back and called it friend..
What the problem is specifically: Xemnas supposedly forgot everything.Xemnas was talking to Aqua through the Armor. Roxas passes out and Xemnas says "so once again you sleep"
Aqua TOLD HIM that she put Ventus in that room. That is why Xemnas stationed so many members in the castle and sent Axel there.

Xemnas and Xehanort were TERRA
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Your theory is genius, but why would Xemnas try to kill sora and riku and a lot of other people <_<

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[quote name='Half Vamp Riku..!' timestamp='1307930092' post='5279083']
Your theory is genius, but why would Xemnas try to kill sora and riku and a lot of other people <_<
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He lacked emotion and only his rage survived. That's why he muttered Xehanort and says Anger and Rage are supreme. His song is Rage Awakened after all. And if not that, of course you're going to kill those that get in the way of saving your friends.

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Xemnas was influenced Terra's memories of his friendship with Aqua and Ven, but was also influenced by Xehanort's evil. Roxas wouldn't be able to destroy the Organization, because like Axel said, they would kill him. Xemnas and Xehanort's Heartless being Terra is confirmed, anyway. Master Xehanort separated his heart from his body just as Sora did, presumably creating his own Nobody just as Sora created Roxas, and his Nobody is probably the Mysterious Figure. Then Master Xehanort's heart possessed Terra, and once Terranort lost his memories, he was apprenticed by Ansem the Wise, and because all he could remember was Xehanort, Ansem assumed that was his name. Another reason he stationed so many members in Castle Oblivion was because he was trying to weed out the traitors.

As for the Guardian, I'm pretty sure that it's Terra's Heartless. When Master Xehanort was trying to remove Terra from his heart, it's the Guardian who is shown to be in pain. Nomura has said that Xemnas might have been able to use a Keyblade, but chose not to for some reason. It may have been that Xemnas was able to do what he did because of Master Xehanort's influence, when it came to using a Keyblade, Master Xehanort would want him to use it, but Terra wouldn't want him to use the Keyblade for evil. That disagreement prevented Xemnas from using a Keyblade, whereas Roxas could use one because there was no influence preventing him from using it.
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[quote name='Phantom Roxas' timestamp='1308687949' post='5300896']
Xemnas was influenced Terra's memories of his friendship with Aqua and Ven, but was also influenced by Xehanort's evil. Roxas wouldn't be able to destroy the Organization, because like Axel said, they would kill him. Xemnas and Xehanort's Heartless being Terra is confirmed, anyway. Master Xehanort separated his heart from his body just as Sora did, presumably creating his own Nobody just as Sora created Roxas, and his Nobody is probably the Mysterious Figure. Then Master Xehanort's heart possessed Terra, and once Terranort lost his memories, he was apprenticed by Ansem the Wise, and because all he could remember was Xehanort, Ansem assumed that was his name. Another reason he stationed so many members in Castle Oblivion was because he was trying to weed out the traitors.

As for the Guardian, I'm pretty sure that it's Terra's Heartless. When Master Xehanort was trying to remove Terra from his heart, it's the Guardian who is shown to be in pain. Nomura has said that Xemnas might have been able to use a Keyblade, but chose not to for some reason. It may have been that Xemnas was able to do what he did because of Master Xehanort's influence, when it came to using a Keyblade, Master Xehanort would want him to use it, but Terra wouldn't want him to use the Keyblade for evil. That disagreement prevented Xemnas from using a Keyblade, whereas Roxas could use one because there was no influence preventing him from using it.
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Multiple problems with your idea. Roxas took down Xigbar, Saix, and Axel. Also Sora if he'd known about repossession. The influence of evil I can agree on BUT Terra was indeed in control. When MX stabbed himself. Yes, a nobody was made but his heart went into Terra so the heartless couldn't have been made. In the secret ending it showed that Terra was in control because of Eraqus. Terranort didn't lose his memories. Braig even knew that. He wasn't quite trying to weed out traitors. Like the saying goes, keep your friends close but your enemies closer. Why do you think Saix is second-in command? He knew who the real traitors would be. And the Terra being the guardian. Wrong on that too. Terranort stabbed himself when Terra was in control. The dominant Will will be the one that keeps their heart. Any possession shows this. Terra was in control. With Terra being in control and MX having both his heart and soul lost. There is no reason for his keyblade to be there. We all know where Terra's is. With the enigmatic knight. Xemnas could never use the keyblade fully like Roxas could. Roxas couldn't use the keyblade full either. Only a whole being has full control. Why do you think Roxas could never call the keyblade back until he was put in Twilight Town? By being in twilight Town he didn't have any of the Organization's brainwashing. he knew he had a heart and soul because he did. Psychology affects the wielder too. Riku is a good example. He was a full being but did he have full control, yes. Did he have his own in the first game, no. Why? Psychologically he wasn't ready. Nomura said this as well when he described the Soul Eater's transformation. Xion is also a good example. She lost the ability for awhile due to her psychological problems. it is proven that you can give your keblade away to a person that can wield. Riku could give the keyblade Aqua gave him to Kairi. Roxas was able to dual-wield because of Xion by absorbing her. XH may look more like MX but you also have to realize he had clothing from Vanitas too.
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Sure, Roxas bested Xigbar, Saïx, and Axel, but who's to say he could beat Xemnas? His heart went to Terra, but if you consider that Master Xehanort as the sole heart of the body and pushing Terra's heart out, then he could become a Heartless. I haven't watched Blank Points yet, since I plan to not watch it until I unlock it in Birth by Sleep.

I may need to replay Days, but I think Nomura has said Xemnas [i]could[/i] use a Keyblade. That or he had a Keyblade but even then he couldn't use it.

What clothing from Vanitas does Xehanort's Heartless have? His appearance can be summed up as Terranort wearing Master Xehanort's outfit. There isn't a single bit of Vanitas visible on him.
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[quote name='Phantom Roxas' timestamp='1308695596' post='5301208']
Sure, Roxas bested Xigbar, Saïx, and Axel, but who's to say he could beat Xemnas? His heart went to Terra, but if you consider that Master Xehanort as the sole heart of the body and pushing Terra's heart out, then he could become a Heartless. I haven't watched Blank Points yet, since I plan to not watch it until I unlock it in Birth by Sleep.

I may need to replay Days, but I think Nomura has said Xemnas [i]could[/i] use a Keyblade. That or he had a Keyblade but even then he couldn't use it.

What clothing from Vanitas does Xehanort's Heartless have? His appearance can be summed up as Terranort wearing Master Xehanort's outfit. There isn't a single bit of Vanitas visible on him.
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The weapon, boots, choice of wear when possessing Riku. Yes but he could've beaten Sora if he had known about the repossession. If he did beat Sora he could've easily beaten xemnas.
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I was under the impression that you meant Xehanort's Heartless took cues from Vanitas. Yes, I know Rikunort resembles Vanitas.

Even if Roxas knew of the repossession - whatever that means, and wouldn't make sense considering how Sora is the original person - that doesn't mean he could have beaten Xemnas. Watch the entire battle with Xemnas. Notice that once Xemnas uses his dragon form, Sora has to rely on help from someone. Against the dragon, he had to attack while Riku piloted that glider that appeared out of nowhere. During the final battle, Xemnas traps Sora and slowly drains his life, once again leaving Riku to save him. If Roxas fought Xemnas, there's nothing that would have saved Roxas from falling to his death, fighting back against the dragon, or having his life drained by Xemnas in his final form. Sora and Riku defeated Xemnas, and if Roxas fought Xemnas alone, which would have been the case, he would have easily died.
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[quote name='Phantom Roxas' timestamp='1308702289' post='5301426']
I was under the impression that you meant Xehanort's Heartless took cues from Vanitas. Yes, I know Rikunort resembles Vanitas.

Even if Roxas knew of the repossession - whatever that means, and wouldn't make sense considering how Sora is the original person - that doesn't mean he could have beaten Xemnas. Watch the entire battle with Xemnas. Notice that once Xemnas uses his dragon form, Sora has to rely on help from someone. Against the dragon, he had to attack while Riku piloted that glider that appeared out of nowhere. During the final battle, Xemnas traps Sora and slowly drains his life, once again leaving Riku to save him. If Roxas fought Xemnas, there's nothing that would have saved Roxas from falling to his death, fighting back against the dragon, or having his life drained by Xemnas in his final form. Sora and Riku defeated Xemnas, and if Roxas fought Xemnas alone, which would have been the case, he would have easily died.
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Roxas can fly, Roxas has temporary immunity from attacks which last long enough and be can be used consecutively to make the drain ineffective. He has an aerial beam attack instead of Riku's beam attack :)

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Oh, that's what you mean by repossession. I still don't see how Roxas not knowing that skill caused him to lose. I did discuss this with a friend of mine a while back, and he called it a cheap shot. At another friend's birthday party, someone there simply thought that was a hilarious way to end the battle. I guess Sora's victory is just something left to interpretation.
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[quote name='Phantom Roxas' timestamp='1308887011' post='5306797']
Oh, that's what you mean by repossession. I still don't see how Roxas not knowing that skill caused him to lose. I did discuss this with a friend of mine a while back, and he called it a cheap shot. At another friend's birthday party, someone there simply thought that was a hilarious way to end the battle. I guess Sora's victory is just something left to interpretation.
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Yup, it was a cheap shot. Though if you've used the Org. 13 Roxas code like I have you'd know it isn't even fair for Xemnas :D Also, not many people realize this but if you keep on beating on Final Xemnas he can never use any of his one time moves. Even the RikuxSora deflect

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