Expelsword Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 I know tiers matter way less in Vanguard than other games because of the whole trigger element, but what would you guys estimate them to be? I remember when I stopped MLB was wrecking everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 I wouldn't say you can really tier everything, but the meta's hugely diverse. Just recent tops (in all events, that is) include Soulless OTTs, Bermudas, DOTE, MLB, Alfred Paladins, Shaladins, Spectral Duke, Spike Bros, Nova Grapplers, and probably a few other things I forgot. Bushi did a good job. EDIT: Oh and that point about Soulless earlier... Didn't Soulless actually win Jap nats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Raptor Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 Exclude Bermuda. That guy was allegedly caught cheating. Jap Nats was won by classic Royal Paladins (Alfred, no Soul Saver), and second was whatever won 3rd and so forth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 [quote name='Johnny Raptor' timestamp='1343244063' post='5988800'] Exclude Bermuda. That guy was allegedly caught cheating. Jap Nats was won by classic Royal Paladins (Alfred, no Soul Saver), and second was whatever won 3rd and so forth. [/quote] I coulda sworn Bermuda have topped elsewhere too, though, which is why I said it. Oh yeah, Soulless made it into 4th after the DQ. My bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 I wonder, what's the highest number of clans you can mash into a solid deck? 2? 3? ALL OF THEM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 [quote name='Expelsword - 黎明' timestamp='1343248706' post='5988861'] I wonder, what's the highest number of clans you can mash into a solid deck? 2? 3? ALL OF THEM? [/quote] 2 is the highest you can go without losing vitals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 2 is still bad since nulls become so much worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 [quote name='Vengevine' timestamp='1343250759' post='5988895'] 2 is still bad since nulls become so much worse. [/quote] I mean, technically a "mixed" deck tops (MLB) and doesn't have a problem with nulls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 Because Blaster Dark wouldn't be Vanguard long enough for it to matter, if ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Raptor Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 Episode 84: 常夏への招待状 Tokonatsu-he no Shoutaijyou (An Invitation to Eternal Summer) August 12nd, 2012 【Featured Card】None Invited by Circuit Sponsor, the Tatsunagi Zaibatsu, the gang of Card Capital heads south for Camp. The Four members of Team AL4 appear before them to join in Special Training. Episode 85: それぞれの夏 Sorezore no Natsu (Each's Summer) August 19th, 2012 【Featured Card】Scarlet Witch CoCo It's the second day of camp! While Team Q4 Struggles to build Decks to help them win in the Asia Circuit, Ren offers to repeatedly play them over and over. Episode 86: 男前ファイト！ 光定ＶＳゴウキ Otokomae Faito! Mitsusada VS Gouki (A Handsome Fight! Mitsusada VS Gouki) August 26th, 2012 【Featured Card】Ice Prison Necromancer, Cocytus Mitsusada of Team Caesar appears before Aichi and Kamui while they participate in a tournament at Card Shop Handsome. He's determined with all of his heart to play Gouki. _____________ >Misaki likely to win ... ... ... ... WAT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 If she's using Soulless it makes sense for her to finally win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 If Ren plays them over and over, I guess they could win some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Raptor Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 Hi, manga. Go screw yourself. >_> [img]http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/8729/adb36d57.jpg[/img] Excalpyte The Blaster Grade 3/Royal Paladin - United Sanctuary/12000 Power/No Shield • Send everything in your Soul, except "Blaster Blade", to the Drop Zone. • This card gains 2000 Power for each card Dropped. • When this Attacks, every opponent Unit recieves Damage. • When the Battle Phase Ends, send this Unit to the Drop Zone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Brian~ Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 "Every opponent's unit receives damage" How does that work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 I'd assume it's the same as Vermillion... Card's such terrible design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 [quote name='~Brian~' timestamp='1343320036' post='5989424'] "Every opponent's unit receives damage" How does that work? [/quote] Basically Vermillion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Raptor Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 Don't even ask me, ask the manga writer. As far as I can read, it attacks all units at once. Damage dealt, 1-6, is unknown to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted July 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 You know, Grade 4 would be possible if it had that clause "When the Battle Phase Ends, send this Unit to the Drop Zone". Wait! No BB in Soul means no VG after Battle? =S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Brian~ Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 [quote name='Kokomoe' timestamp='1343320092' post='5989426'] Basically Vermillion [/quote] Oh, well, holy f***. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Raptor Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 [quote name='Legend Zero' timestamp='1343320554' post='5989428'] You know, Grade 4 would be possible if it had that clause "When the Battle Phase Ends, send this Unit to the Drop Zone". Wait! No BB in Soul means no VG after Battle? =S [/quote] I just said that to Koko earlier. And then lol'd because you have no Vanguard, therefore you can't even carry on with the game since nothing's in the Vanguard circle. And this is why I think Itou's been having some of the best drugs that I'm desperately in need of. He's got dat good s***. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 [quote name='Legend Zero' timestamp='1343320554' post='5989428'] You know, Grade 4 would be possible if it had that clause "When the Battle Phase Ends, send this Unit to the Drop Zone". Wait! No BB in Soul means no VG after Battle? =S [/quote] You lose if you don't have BB, basically Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 I'll just use Vermillion, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 [quote name='Expelsword - 黎明' timestamp='1343321360' post='5989434'] I'll just use Vermillion, thanks. [/quote] what Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 If you default at the end of your turn, I'd say Vermillion is a much better bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 [quote name='Expelsword - 黎明' timestamp='1343322236' post='5989440'] If you default at the end of your turn, I'd say Vermillion is a much better bet. [/quote] You go down to Blaster Blade. The fact that you caused damage to your opponent and retired every single one of their Rearguards is a lot better than [b]VERMILLION[/b]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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