Gravitize Me Cap'n! Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Discuss why the two should trade places on the banlist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoolMeNever Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Remind what TIV is again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravitize Me Cap'n! Posted February 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Tribe-Infecting Virus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Well, this is the way I see it: Tribe:-Can't target face-down cards.-Only can be used on one monster type at a time.-Isn't as summonable as other monsters.-Lots of players using the same monster types.+1600 ATK++Can be used to destroy all face-up monsters on the field with 1 shot.++ No chance of failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoolMeNever Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Ah, ok. Personally, I think both should be banned, TIV is way too powerful, call an Attribute (Or was it Type?) And destroy all Monsters with that same attribute, sure, it isn't that good against Monarchs, but still, TIV is powerful. But, I'll probably be beat out by somebody else because I suck at coming up with logical reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shonenhikada Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 i want my virus cards,back it's fun when you infect peoples decks. Also what's the point in putting banned cards in yu-gi-oh games,because of the banned list you can't use them unless you hack the game so what's the point,and don't you find multiple copies of the same card with a different art on it is a waste of game space,when you could have used it to accommodate even more cards for the player to actually use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Well' date=' this is the way I see it: Tribe:-Can't target face-down cards.-Only can be used on one monster type at a time.-Isn't as summonable as other monsters.-Lots of players using the same monster types.+1600 ATK++Can be used to destroy all face-up monsters on the field with 1 shot.++ No chance of failure.[/quote'] Except that the 1600 ATK is a big minus compared with Snipe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Slime Lord Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 I'd rather have both on the ban list. Tribe:-Can't target face-down cards.-Only can be used on one monster type at a time.-Isn't as summonable as other monsters.-Lots of players using the same monster types.+1600 ATKCan be used more than once per turn.++Can be used to destroy all face-up monsters on the field with 1 shot.++ No chance of failure. Pretty much. And it's extra 100 ATK doesn't really matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Well' date=' this is the way I see it: Tribe:-Can't target face-down cards.-Only can be used on one monster type at a time.-Isn't as summonable as other monsters.-Lots of players using the same monster types.+1600 ATK++Can be used to destroy all face-up monsters on the field with 1 shot.++ No chance of failure.[/quote'] Except that the 1600 ATK is a big minus compared with Snipe.Already wrote that it wasn't as summonable xP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonisanoob Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 why should they swap dna surgery oh look i just so happned to destroy all monstersnop keep it OUT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravitize Me Cap'n! Posted February 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 TIV punishes overextension. Overextensions are usually made by bad and/or careless players. Using the transitive property, we get: TIV punishes bad and/or careless players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abstract [Atrocity] Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 TIV...Can't go for facedownsCan't go for S/T'sIsn't searchable by sangan / Mother grizzly----1600 ATKCan wipe out field (if lucky)No failure rate. I think they're equally as good, just depends on whatDecks people play in your area. Doesn't do much onMonarchs or Macro, but hurts Warriors, Zombies, and Machines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravitize Me Cap'n! Posted February 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 dna surgery oh look i just so happned to destroy all monsters oh look let's base our examples on situational combos, in the instance where opponent has a full monster field but no backfield and you happen to have DNA Surgery set and just topdecked TIV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 why should they swap dna surgery oh look i just so happned to destroy all monstersnop keep it OUT Pro Tip: If you want your opinion to be taken seriously, don't bring DNA Surgery into the argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravitize Me Cap'n! Posted February 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 And if said player overcommits to that extent and doesn't win the duel that very turn, he deserves to lose. Also, Torrential/Mirror would accomplish the same swing, except it doesn't discriminate types. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b7hamma Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 TIV clears face-up monsters. Snipe clears fields Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 TIV would rape Zombies, Stratos Toolbox, Hydros, Gadgets, because of the type thing. plus its a sure shot at killing them but it also cant hurt s/t or facedowns...so...dont know what to think about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b7hamma Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 Yes that Zombie argument is solid, you know how they hate being in the graveyard... As stated before, TIV does nothing that Mirror Force can't do. It punishes over-extension, it does not kill themes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XanderTheGreat Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 Snipe will be banned in the next banlist. And TIV will likely be back, but knowing Upperdeck, they'll likely act stupid and won't do that. Snipe's destined for ban for the following reasons. -Can destroy anything he wants.-SEARCHABLE. Through both Sangan and Tomato, among others.-DARK attribute. With all the dark support, that guy just got from strong to GODLIKE. TIV will be back for the following. -Can only destroy monsters, and not all typings can be destroyed through one discard.-NOT searchable in the current meta.(1600 ATK makes him actually worse) And to those who tell me: "But Snipe has a dice effect that is random." Your point is useless and won't matter. 2/3 chances is still too much, whether you like it or not. Sad but true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 now that i think more about it, Sniper should be banned, and TIV should definitely not be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaco Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 now that i think more about it' date=' Sniper should be banned, and TIV should definitely not be.[/quote'] Indeed, Xander is quite persuasive. But I suppose that's because he has good points. Either way, I'm changing my tune as well. Snipe = Banned TIV = ... maybe back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark One Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 Snipe should probably be banned, but TIV should not come back. Think about it, TIV discourages Theme-decks. Upperdeck like Theme-decks. That was the reason TIV was banned to begin with. If it is brought back, it would kill any chances Zombies had of recovering their fame and glory. Quite a few other decks would be screwed as well. It isn't even really as good as Snipe Hunter, but because of the fact that it narrows the Metagame, it isn't a healthy card and should stay banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orochi Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 completely disagree... snipe can destroy even spells and traps, by the cost of your hand advantage and your luck with the dice... the dice roll is the limitant of this card, thing that TIV doesn't have... but TIV doesn't need to destroy S/T and face down monsters, that is job for heavy storm and NoC... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark One Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 If you read my post, I said that Snipe Hunter should be banned. I simply said that Tribe-Infecting-Virus should also stay banned. The fact is, though Snipe Hunter is more powerful of a card than Tribe is, it does less damage to the metagame, since it affects all decks equally. Tribe comes down hard on any Theme supported deck, which narrows the metagame. That's bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Slime Lord Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 If it is brought back' date=' it would kill any chances Zombies had of recovering their fame and glory. [/quote'] I thought Zombies liked the Graveyard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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