FoolMeNever Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 also Grammarg' date=' is maybe, one of the worst monarchs him or thesty,[/quote'] Haha. I'd love to hear this. Okay, explain how Thestalos is bad. It's just a random discard, and if you happen to discard a Monster, all it does is inflict Life Point Damage. Then, it becomes suceptible (sp?) to Call or Preme. I prefer card destruction, that's why I prefer Granmarg, Zaborg, and Mobius over Raiza, and Thestalos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azmania2260 Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 People don't seem to understand the importance of Spell and Trap Cards as well the destruction of them. Here are my Monarchs, ranked best to worst. Raiza - So damn useful.Zaborg - Yahoo for monster destruction.Mobius - Spell and Trap Destruction is critical.Thestalos - Good damage.Granmarg - What a pointless card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under_Age_User Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 also Grammarg' date=' is maybe, one of the worst monarchs him or thesty,[/quote'] Haha. I'd love to hear this. Okay, explain how Thestalos is bad. the discarded card can be cards like treeborn, malicious or dasher or a card can be pretty worthless..if u could look at the hand and select what to discard, it would be awsome, however since its not its not really that good 1: Just as easily, the discarded card could be Heavy Storm, Stratos, Spirit Reaper, another monarch, etc. Just because it MIGHT hit something your opponent would perfer in the grave doesn't make it any more lethal. Learn to read your card advantage,2: The second effect would make it beyond broken.3: There are already plenty of spells, traps, and monsters that can destroy cards on the field. Compared to cards that effect cards in the hand, there are very few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under_Age_User Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 also Grammarg' date=' is maybe, one of the worst monarchs him or thesty,[/quote'] Haha. I'd love to hear this. Okay, explain how Thestalos is bad. It's just a random discard, and if you happen to discard a Monster, all it does is inflict Life Point Damage. Then, it becomes suceptible (sp?) to Call or Preme. I prefer card destruction, that's why I prefer Granmarg, Zaborg, and Mobius over Raiza, and Thestalos. 1: Burn damage is a moot point. People would still run it even if gave 0 damage.2: It can hit spells and traps too. 3: Perfer Granmarg? Oh lord, I think I'm gonna die laughing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under_Age_User Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 People don't seem to understand the importance of Spell and Trap Cards as well the destruction of them. Here are my Monarchs' date=' ranked best to worst. Raiza - So damn useful.Zaborg - Yahoo for monster destruction.Mobius - Spell and Trap Destruction is critical.Thestalos - Good damage.Granmarg - What a pointless card.[/quote'] Seems more like some people don't understand the importance of Hand Advantage, and seem to think that just because they run non-chainable spells and traps that everyone else does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uzumakinaruto93 Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 also Grammarg' date=' is maybe, one of the worst monarchs him or thesty,[/quote'] Haha. I'd love to hear this. Okay, explain how Thestalos is bad. the discarded card can be cards like treeborn, malicious or dasher or a card can be pretty worthless..if u could look at the hand and select what to discard, it would be awsome, however since its not its not really that good 1: Just as easily, the discarded card could be Heavy Storm, Stratos, Spirit Reaper, another monarch, etc. Just because it MIGHT hit something your opponent would perfer in the grave doesn't make it any more lethal. Learn to read your card advantage,2: The second effect would make it beyond broken.3: There are already plenty of spells, traps, and monsters that can destroy cards on the field. Compared to cards that effect cards in the hand, there are very few. 1. asked y its bad not y its good2. yes, but it would make it really good3. yes and i never said anything different also don't triple post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under_Age_User Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 1. asked y its bad not y its good2. yes' date=' but it would make it really good3. yes and i never said anything different[/quote'] 1: The same could be said about every card then. Raiza might be topdecked when you don't have a trib on the field. Bad card, right? You might drawn into Pot of Greed when they have Horus lv 8 on the field, right?Seriously, your argument is weak. 2: Maybe it's effect should be: "When this card is summoned, you win the duel." That would make it really good too, wouldn't it? 3: It's a very effective 1-1, just like the other monarchs, except it hits the hand, where it can hit ANYTHING. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravitize Me Cap'n! Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 lol @ suggesting Confiscation as effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoolMeNever Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 I could really care less if you guys think Thestalos is a good Monarch, my opinion is that he isn't. Hand disruption is not a big thing for me, and there's nothing you guys can say to make me change my mind. Also, spinning cards isn't that big of a deal for me either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravitize Me Cap'n! Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Isn't it the point of this topic, to consider that maybe, just maybe, you could be wrong in your belief? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Whether or not you don't like a card has no bearing on whether or not a card is good. Just keep that in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoolMeNever Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Isn't it the point of this topic' date=' to consider that maybe, just maybe, you could be wrong in your belief?[/quote'] It's not my belief (ok technically it is), I just prefer card destruction over hand disruption and spinning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Best Male 2008 Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 mine 1.Raiza2. Thestalos3. Mobius4. Zaborg5. Granmarg...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 mine 1.Raiza2. Thestalos3. Mobius4. Zaborg5. Granmarg...... At least Thes is where he belongs. Now why is it that you value ST destruction over monster destruction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Best Male 2008 Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 mine 1.Raiza2. Thestalos3. Mobius4. Zaborg5. Granmarg...... At least Thes is where he belongs. Now why is it that you value ST destruction over monster destruction? because, I just do I would rather use smashing ground fissure etc.... rather than tributing a monster, to get zaborg out, to kill a monster so i just used 2 cards, to kill one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 mine 1.Raiza2. Thestalos3. Mobius4. Zaborg5. Granmarg...... At least Thes is where he belongs. Now why is it that you value ST destruction over monster destruction? because' date=' I just do I would rather use smashing ground fissure etc.... rather than tributing a monster, to get zaborg out, to kill a monster so i just used 2 cards, to kill one[/quote'] I see. But aren't monsters often far more valuable than S/T? I mean, of course you have your Mirror Forces and your Torrentials, but those are only a small amount of the S/T played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Best Male 2008 Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 mine 1.Raiza2. Thestalos3. Mobius4. Zaborg5. Granmarg...... At least Thes is where he belongs. Now why is it that you value ST destruction over monster destruction? because' date=' I just do I would rather use smashing ground fissure etc.... rather than tributing a monster, to get zaborg out, to kill a monster so i just used 2 cards, to kill one[/quote'] I see. But aren't monsters often far more valuable than S/T? I mean, of course you have your Mirror Forces and your Torrentials, but those are only a small amount of the S/T played. that is true, personally, i don't care if they have a monster or not, I will kill it sometime in the game anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravitize Me Cap'n! Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 With? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Best Male 2008 Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 With? does it matter what i kill it with, no..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravitize Me Cap'n! Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 So it's going to die on its own? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 mine 1.Raiza2. Thestalos3. Mobius4. Zaborg5. Granmarg...... At least Thes is where he belongs. Now why is it that you value ST destruction over monster destruction? because' date=' I just do I would rather use smashing ground fissure etc.... rather than tributing a monster, to get zaborg out, to kill a monster so i just used 2 cards, to kill one[/quote'] I see. But aren't monsters often far more valuable than S/T? I mean, of course you have your Mirror Forces and your Torrentials, but those are only a small amount of the S/T played. that is true, personally, i don't care if they have a monster or not, I will kill it sometime in the game anyway And what happens when you have Heavy, MST, Giant Trunade, and Mobius in your hand, a Frog on the field, your opponent has just summoned their VanDrag, and you draw into another Mobius? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Best Male 2008 Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 mine 1.Raiza2. Thestalos3. Mobius4. Zaborg5. Granmarg...... At least Thes is where he belongs. Now why is it that you value ST destruction over monster destruction? because' date=' I just do I would rather use smashing ground fissure etc.... rather than tributing a monster, to get zaborg out, to kill a monster so i just used 2 cards, to kill one[/quote'] I see. But aren't monsters often far more valuable than S/T? I mean, of course you have your Mirror Forces and your Torrentials, but those are only a small amount of the S/T played. that is true, personally, i don't care if they have a monster or not, I will kill it sometime in the game anyway And what happens when you have Heavy, MST, Giant Trunade, and Mobius in your hand, a Frog on the field, your opponent has just summoned their VanDrag, and you draw into another Mobius? and, what happens if you stop posting all these random situations..... and, I do not have the majority of the cards you mentioned, i lack YGO cards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravitize Me Cap'n! Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Just because you lack YGO cards doesn't mean you lack the mental capacity to read and understand those cards. But I could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 mine 1.Raiza2. Thestalos3. Mobius4. Zaborg5. Granmarg...... At least Thes is where he belongs. Now why is it that you value ST destruction over monster destruction? because' date=' I just do I would rather use smashing ground fissure etc.... rather than tributing a monster, to get zaborg out, to kill a monster so i just used 2 cards, to kill one[/quote'] I see. But aren't monsters often far more valuable than S/T? I mean, of course you have your Mirror Forces and your Torrentials, but those are only a small amount of the S/T played. that is true, personally, i don't care if they have a monster or not, I will kill it sometime in the game anyway And what happens when you have Heavy, MST, Giant Trunade, and Mobius in your hand, a Frog on the field, your opponent has just summoned their VanDrag, and you draw into another Mobius? and, what happens if you stop posting all these random situations..... and, I do not have the majority of the cards you mentioned, i lack YGO cards I was merely displaying the abundence of great ST removal. Great monster removal (of which Zaborg is one of) is a bit harder to come by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Best Male 2008 Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Just because you lack YGO cards doesn't mean you lack the mental capacity to read and understand those cards. But I could be wrong. I understand the cards...i know what they do..... just because I like hand/ST destruction over monster destruction, you question me why? it's like me questioning your religion...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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