Under_Age_User Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 mobius is not a bad monarch... i'll give you 2 reasons: 1.- it's a -2 on field to your opponent... 2.- it's effect is not mandatory' date=' so you can summon it even when your opponent has nothing to destroy...[/quote'] Name me 3 valid targets for Mobius except Mirror Force and Call of the Haunted (lol Disk and Sangan) this format. 1.- sakuretsu armor2.- magic cylinder3.- dimensional prison4.- return from the different dimension5.- premature burial6.- ANY field spell card7.- ANY face up spell card, specially equips need to say more? He asked for cards in THIS Format. 1: No one runs Sakuretsu Armor anymore. Read the decklist of ANY SJC in this format.2: Other then Burn decks, not many people run Magical Cylinder, and burn auto-loses to any sidedeck.3: See number 1.4. Still chainable, however it really depends all on the deck.5. Whatever Premature Burial was for, it already did it's job. 6. Field spells make for awful topdecks. Especially when PWWB and Raiza actually CAN turn fields into topdecks.7. No one runs equips. No one runs continuous except burn, in which case, side deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under_Age_User Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 S/T destruction is escential on the game, specially when those cards can turn your game, like mirror force, sakuretsu, enemy controller, shrink, etc... Ironically, Enemy Controller AND Shrink are both chainable. And on the subject of chainables, your Mobius could just as easily hit two of them. (Chainables I mean.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 ok' date=' you're so wrong... S/T destruction is escential on the game, specially when those cards can turn your game, like mirror force, sakuretsu, enemy controller, shrink, etc... destroy my monster, then my S/T will eat you alive... also CB deck is on discussion, is part of the actual meta, and it's very important to avoid that deck uses it's top card: crystal abundance...[/quote'] At least you didn't say Rainbow Dragon. Anyway, CB decks are far too inconsistant to bring up seriously. There are multitudes of good ST removal. Good monster removal is much more valuable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Wayne Trader was a Top 16, and he ran 2 dimensional Prison. its almost the same thing. and orochi mentioned it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orochi Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 mobius is not a bad monarch... i'll give you 2 reasons: 1.- it's a -2 on field to your opponent... 2.- it's effect is not mandatory' date=' so you can summon it even when your opponent has nothing to destroy...[/quote'] Name me 3 valid targets for Mobius except Mirror Force and Call of the Haunted (lol Disk and Sangan) this format. 1.- sakuretsu armor2.- magic cylinder3.- dimensional prison4.- return from the different dimension5.- premature burial6.- ANY field spell card7.- ANY face up spell card, specially equips need to say more? He asked for cards in THIS Format. 1: No one runs Sakuretsu Armor anymore. Read the decklist of ANY SJC in this format.2: Other then Burn decks, not many people run Magical Cylinder, and burn auto-loses to any sidedeck.3: See number 1.4. Still chainable, however it really depends all on the deck.5. Whatever Premature Burial was for, it already did it's job. 6. Field spells make for awful topdecks. Especially when PWWB and Raiza actually CAN turn fields into topdecks.7. No one runs equips. No one runs continuous except burn, in which case, side deck. 1.- wrong, saku is still used... maybe not in SJC but that's not the only tournament, check locals 2.- novice players use it because is an easy hit3.- seriously, are you 4real?? dimensional prison is the TOP defense card nowadays4.- lol... if it's your opponent's turn and he destroys it, you can't OTK anymore... 5.- seriously not... also in that case you lose the monster, direct attack anyone??6.- ancient city is used, mausoleum is used, lol again...7.- premature burial actually IS an equip... this format also uses macro cosmos and dimensional fissure, easy victims of mobius... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 actually Orochi, none of the Top 16's ran Sakuretsu. http://www.metagame.com/yugioh.aspx?tabid=33&ArticleId=9266 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orochi Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 maybe not there, but on south america and europe is still used... ok, take out sakuretsu, but it's just one of 7 examples i mentioned... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under_Age_User Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 mobius is not a bad monarch... i'll give you 2 reasons: 1.- it's a -2 on field to your opponent... 2.- it's effect is not mandatory' date=' so you can summon it even when your opponent has nothing to destroy...[/quote'] Name me 3 valid targets for Mobius except Mirror Force and Call of the Haunted (lol Disk and Sangan) this format. 1.- sakuretsu armor2.- magic cylinder3.- dimensional prison4.- return from the different dimension5.- premature burial6.- ANY field spell card7.- ANY face up spell card, specially equips need to say more? He asked for cards in THIS Format. 1: No one runs Sakuretsu Armor anymore. Read the decklist of ANY SJC in this format.2: Other then Burn decks, not many people run Magical Cylinder, and burn auto-loses to any sidedeck.3: See number 1.4. Still chainable, however it really depends all on the deck.5. Whatever Premature Burial was for, it already did it's job. 6. Field spells make for awful topdecks. Especially when PWWB and Raiza actually CAN turn fields into topdecks.7. No one runs equips. No one runs continuous except burn, in which case, side deck. 1.- wrong, saku is still used... maybe not in SJC but that's not the only tournament, check locals 2.- novice players use it because is an easy hit3.- seriously, are you 4real?? dimensional prison is the TOP defense card nowadays4.- lol... if it's your opponent's turn and he destroys it, you can't OTK anymore... 5.- seriously not... also in that case you lose the monster, direct attack anyone??6.- ancient city is used, mausoleum is used, lol again...7.- premature burial actually IS an equip... this format also uses macro cosmos and dimensional fissure, easy victims of mobius... 1: Locals matter and are an accurate judge of the effectiveness of a card now!? You guys are seriously slacking in the "memo deliver" department.2: Novice Players. Thank you for proving my point.3: Except... not really. PWWB > DP.4: And once again, it all depends on the deck, as most decks have no need for RftDD.5: Premature SS-es a monster. Then you normal summon. How do you get the direct attack again?6: Limited by deck types. And say you're NOT dueling a CB deck, or a high level... whatever, deck.7. Yes, it is. However, we already addressed Premature in number 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 i'm going to have to agree with UnderAgeUser here. Saku just isnt good anymore, and yes PWWB is better than DP, Equips and Field cards are rarely used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orochi Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 on point 4: i'm amazed on that comment since PTDN uses several monster-removing cards... and you're so used to praise new cards even at the point of banning them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under_Age_User Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 i'm going to have to agree with UnderAgeUser here. Saku just isnt good anymore' date=' and yes PWWB is better than DP, Equips and Field cards are rarely used.[/quote'] UnderAge is one of them. We shouldn't associate with them. ... So, just because I am from GameFaqs, I can never be correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardecked Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Yes, don't associate with people who are right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 okay, UnderAge and Chaos Pudding seem alright to me. the others were just insulting and annoying us. i'm okay with UnderAge and Chaos Pudding. at least they give reasons why they think the way they do, rather than Jib's (or someone elses) "please fail more", and not explain anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orochi Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 agrees, also it's nice to discuss with brained people and not with "i'm the best on yugioh because i have the videogame and cards are for loosers" @zz-holes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junk Raver Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 i'm going to have to agree with UnderAgeUser here. Saku just isnt good anymore' date=' and yes PWWB is better than DP, Equips and Field cards are rarely used.[/quote'] UnderAge is one of them. We shouldn't associate with them. ... So, just because I am from GameFaqs, I can never be correct? Underage has a point there ^_^ Also as i said to someone from this thread, why do people take this card game so seriously? lol Im glad i dont play it ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Yu-Gi-Oh: Serious Business. And, really, don't the actual discussions feel good? I'm glad to have found some subjects I can argue well at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Best Male 2008 Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 i'm going to have to agree with UnderAgeUser here. Saku just isnt good anymore' date=' and yes PWWB is better than DP, Equips and Field cards are rarely used.[/quote'] UnderAge is one of them. We shouldn't associate with them. ... So, just because I am from GameFaqs, I can never be correct? with your little amount of posts, you are in my top list of respected people already.... and Chaos pudding, you said in another thread, that you wanted to make us better duelists.... seeing as really, the only people that post in TCG/Deck are good players like HORUS, Lord Sheogorath, me, Slime Lord, georgeryboy654, Orochi ETC..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God of Cadillacs Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 I'm talking about people who are too afraid to say what they want to on here. And decide to take it some place else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 KA i thought you lost your deck xD i will admit i am not a REALLY great player. i am good, i've won locals. but in no way do i think i am the best. i agree with most of what you new people say, but if you could present it in a less forcible way, we would accept you easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under_Age_User Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 i'm going to have to agree with UnderAgeUser here. Saku just isnt good anymore' date=' and yes PWWB is better than DP, Equips and Field cards are rarely used.[/quote'] UnderAge is one of them. We shouldn't associate with them. ... So, just because I am from GameFaqs, I can never be correct? with your little amount of posts, you are in my top list of respected people already.... and Chaos pudding, you said in another thread, that you wanted to make us better duelists.... seeing as really, the only people that post in TCG/Deck are good players like HORUS, Lord Sheogorath, me, Slime Lord, georgeryboy654, Orochi ETC..... Sarcasm much? I'm sorry that Number of Posts = Correctness around here. If it would make you consider my point more, then maybe I should spam like how you are. Sadly, if you guys are the best of the board... well, I'd rather not troll. However, even the best players still have stuff to learn. For example, half of you jumped Chaos Pudding for his Arms Hole topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardecked Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 seeing as really' date=' the only people that post in TCG/Deck are good players like HORUS, Lord Sheogorath, me, Slime Lord, georgeryboy654, Orochi ETC.....[/quote'] How can you state that and keep a straight face? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Best Male 2008 Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 sarcasm? no.....I never have debated with Chaos pudding..... and i do consider your point...I never said I didn't..... seeing as really' date=' the only people that post in TCG/Deck are good players like HORUS, Lord Sheogorath, me, Slime Lord, georgeryboy654, Orochi ETC.....[/quote'] How can you state that and keep a straight face? quite easily actually.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under_Age_User Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 I'm talking about people who are too afraid to say what they want to on here. And decide to take it some place else. 1: I think we'd be more willing to speak here... if we weren't banned on this board.2: We did say what we wanted, for the most part. We explained why we believed cards should be banned, unlimited, etc and you (not you specifically, you referring in a general way) immediately jumped against anything that went against the pre-established norms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junk Raver Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Out of sheer randomness How is this thread actually going to end? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 i'm relatively new to the meta, because i only just started playing competitively in around october. thats why it may seem like i'm not as good as you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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