TAG Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 Sesame Street was brought to you today by the letter F, for *FACEPALM* Chain Material renders Fusion Gate useless. With Chain Material, you don't need Fusion Gate to summon, since you can just remove them by Chain Material's effect. So, all your points involving Chain Material are rendered useless as far as Fusion Gate goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abstract [Atrocity] Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 Manticore is still way better...Pros:Exodia can't be negated.You don't needca LV5 monster on the field and a trap face-down.You don't need a sub-pay deck with 3 Catapult Turtles and 15+ dragons.If you have 17 Dragons + 3 Catapult Turtles' date=' that means you can't do an OTK if you draw 3 or more Dragons. Just try and make aChain Material Deck that will beat a Manticore Exodia Deck, andwe'll see which is better.[/quote'] You can still be on the offense, and you don't have to play terrible stall. Also, you can activate from your hand, deck, graveyard or field. Learn to read please. Lastly, you'd be screwed if you drew both your Manticores, or if you drew just one without COSR. I didn't see tha part about the Graveyard or hand bit on Chain Material, as I am multitasking an essay and YCM. I admit,the Chain Meterial stuff is beter than I thought but Manticoreis still faster, you can win on your first turn with it, somethingChain Material can't do. All depends on how you play it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted February 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 Sesame Street was brought to you today by the letter F' date=' for *FACEPALM* Chain Material renders Fusion Gate useless. With Chain Material, you don't need Fusion Gate to summon, since you can just remove them by Chain Material's effect. So, all your points involving Chain Material are rendered useless as far as Fusion Gate goes.[/quote'] lern2read Chain Material requires you to use another card to Fusion Summon. It merely expands the range of Fusion Material Monsters at your disposal for when you do so. Manticore is still way better...Pros:Exodia can't be negated.You don't needca LV5 monster on the field and a trap face-down.You don't need a sub-pay deck with 3 Catapult Turtles and 15+ dragons.If you have 17 Dragons + 3 Catapult Turtles' date=' that means you can't do an OTK if you draw 3 or more Dragons. Just try and make aChain Material Deck that will beat a Manticore Exodia Deck, andwe'll see which is better.[/quote'] You can still be on the offense, and you don't have to play terrible stall. Also, you can activate from your hand, deck, graveyard or field. Learn to read please. Lastly, you'd be screwed if you drew both your Manticores, or if you drew just one without COSR. I didn't see tha part about the Graveyard or hand on Chain Materialas I am multitasking an essay and YCM. I admit,the Chain Meterial stuff is beter than I thought but Manticoreis still faster, you can win on your first turn with it, somethingChain Material can't do. All depends on how you play it... First turn wins depend on lucksack opening hands, not how well you play things. Just because something isn't an FTK in theoretical circumstances that will rarely happen in actual duels doesn't mean that it is an inferior decktype. Thanks to cards like Mother Grizzly, Sangan, and Terraforming, a second-turn win here is more likely than a Manticore win in the first two turns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FallenLight Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 Manticore is still way better...Pros:Exodia can't be negated.You don't needca LV5 monster on the field and a trap face-down.You don't need a sub-pay deck with 3 Catapult Turtles and 15+ dragons.If you have 17 Dragons + 3 Catapult Turtles' date=' that means you can't do an OTK if you draw 3 or more Dragons. Just try and make aChain Material Deck that will beat a Manticore Exodia Deck, andwe'll see which is better.[/quote'] You can still be on the offense, and you don't have to play terrible stall. Also, you can activate from your hand, deck, graveyard or field. Learn to read please. Lastly, you'd be screwed if you drew both your Manticores, or if you drew just one without COSR. I didn't see tha part about the Graveyard or hand bit on Chain Material, as I am multitasking an essay and YCM. I admit,the Chain Meterial stuff is beter than I thought but Manticoreis still faster, you can win on your first turn with it, somethingChain Material can't do. All depends on how you play it... You can win on your second turn, which is almost as good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orochi Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 perdon... no-hablo-ingles... ¬¬ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAG Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 Sesame Street was brought to you today by the letter F' date=' for *FACEPALM* Chain Material renders Fusion Gate useless. With Chain Material, you don't need Fusion Gate to summon, since you can just remove them by Chain Material's effect. So, all your points involving Chain Material are rendered useless as far as Fusion Gate goes.[/quote'] lern2read[/quoteChain Material requires you to use another card to Fusion Summon. It merely expands the range of Fusion Material Monsters at your disposal for when you do so. never mind. i misread the card ruling. and orochi, don't spam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FallenLight Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 ¿Hablas el español? Puedo te ayudar con qué ellos están hablando sobre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted February 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 I swear, kids these days. I finally learn how to use my internets, and this crap is all I see. It's about time that I, Wilford Brimley, teach you all a lesson. Yessir, I'm gonna tell you all the problems you girlie-boys on the 'net have, and what you can do to fix them. Listen up, 'cause I'm only gonna teach you once. And boy, you're gonna learn quite a-... hey, you! Yeah, you! The damn skater punk, what with the long hair and the cheap jeans! Get off my lawn and go get a damn job! For Christ's sake, you look like a strung-out hobo. Kids these days... The first problem I see here is all these foreigners. Canadians? British? Spanish? Australians? Last I checked, the internet was American. We don't need you other guys to run our sites. You British can just sip your tea all day. I only drink American things like coffee. You Canadians might as well just get back to your curling. Americans know better than to skate around in tights with brooms trying to make a hunk of granite land in a circle. You're just copying the American game of darts, and turning it into a challenge to see who's the biggest sissy. You Spanish haven't even done anything important since the Armada. The only thing you do is sneak over the border into America. As for you Australians... just leave us alone, and get back to killing your tarantulas and scorpions. I mean Jesus H. Christ, those things could wrestle a horse. As for all you other countries, you stay off the 'net, too. Far as I'm concerned, if you weren't part of the Allied Forces, you don't deserve... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 saldy, ive dont his deck, alot more fun, and without dragons. Same consept, but i just use blue-eyes and the quickplay that came with the set. Launch blue eyes ultimate. Than i summon Dragon master knight, use the quick play spell, return The big lug. Special summon 2 Blue eyes. Launch, than Fuse the two blue eyes with king of swamp, lanch that ultimate than catapult for victory. My combo isnt, faster. But i just dont like to stick to what every body else does when there are more ways to win succesfuly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonisanoob Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 ok to me i thoink that this IS definitly better than manticore to win the way people want you would have to draw cyberdragon folish cosr and a monticore in your first hand likley i think not basic deck would = 3 catty turtle14 dragons3 mother grizzly gold sarcophogus 3diff dimension capulsesterraforming 3fusion gate 3filler cards liek jar of greed simple ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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