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Manticore is still way better...

Pros:

Exodia can't be negated.

You don't needca LV5 monster on the field and a trap face-down.

You don't need a sub-pay deck with 3 Catapult Turtles and 15+ dragons.

If you have 17 Dragons + 3 Catapult Turtles, that means you can't

do an OTK if you draw 3 or more Dragons. Just try and make a

Chain Material Deck that will beat a Manticore Exodia Deck, and

we'll see which is better.

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Fusion Gate vs. Manticore

 

+Fusion Gate:

None of the cards for this OTK are limited/banned

It's easy to pull off because most of the cards are highly searchable

Dragon beatdown isn't the suckiest of alternate win conditions

It's much faster than drawing every last card in your deck

 

+Manticore:

Needs only two cards

 

-Fusion Gate:

Needs 3 key cards and x Fusion cards that have a total ATK of 16000 or more

Can be easily dismantled with the right counter

 

-Manticore:

Needs 2 key cards of which one is limited and neither searchable

Can be easily dismantled with the right counter

 

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I do believe Fusion Gate is better.

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This post is so wrong, I need to break it into different sections to show how wrong it is.

 

Manticore is still way better...

 

WRONG.

 

Pros:

Exodia can't be negated.

 

WRONG. CoSR/Foolish Burial/Manticore's effect/etc can all be negated' date=' effectively negating Exodia by preventing the OTK.

 

You don't needca LV5 monster on the field

 

iHeard Mother Grizzly exists.

 

and a trap face-down.

 

Instead, you need a Continuous Spell face-up.

 

You don't need a sub-pay deck with 3 Catapult Turtles and 15+ dragons.

 

I assume you mean "sub-par". Frankly, a Dragon deck can hold on its own even without this combo. A deck weighed down by Exodia cards can't do so withotu Exodia.

 

If you have 17 Dragons + 3 Catapult Turtles, that means you can't

do an OTK if you draw 3 or more Dragons.

 

WRONG. Read Chain Material.

 

Just try and make a

Chain Material Deck that will beat a Manticore Exodia Deck, and

we'll see which is better.

 

Chain Material is far superior. It works in a regular dragon deck (including one with Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon) and requires no extra cards other than the three used in the combo itself. Manticore Exodia needs the entire deck built around it, needs to run bad cards like Right Leg of the Forbidden One, and is basically useless without the combo.

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Manticore is still way better...

Pros:

Exodia can't be negated.

You don't needca LV5 monster on the field and a trap face-down.

You don't need a sub-pay deck with 3 Catapult Turtles and 15+ dragons.

If you have 17 Dragons + 3 Catapult Turtles' date=' that means you can't

do an OTK if you draw 3 or more Dragons. Just try and make a

Chain Material Deck that will beat a Manticore Exodia Deck, and

we'll see which is better.

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You can still be on the offense, and you don't have to play terrible stall.

 

Also, you can activate from your hand, deck, graveyard or field. Learn to read please.

 

Lastly, you'd be screwed if you drew both your Manticores, or if you drew just one without COSR.

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