CrystalCyae Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 Well yeah. I'm sure a few of you (Or at least I hope) Have read this amazing series of books. I myself am up to No. 5. Anywho.... Discuss the awesomeness, the drama, the horror..... And enjoy. [spoiler=Why I love it] Artemis is a criminal genuis. That sells it to me because I consider myself a genius. Plus I'm biased with things like fairies an trools. Mythofreak! And Holly is one of my friends (I mean I have a friend named Holly)[/spoiler] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desu the Blue Nerd Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 [spoiler=Pretty much everything I say will be a spoiler]The logic to how he survives the blue rinse or whatever it's called again makes no sense. You're asleep so you're fine? I just couldn't understand it. In every book his hair color seems to change. In the first he had blonde hair. In another he had black. He also became filled with hormones that at 15 caused him to go after a 13 (was that it?) year old. Secondly he doesn't even become the main character anymore. Becomes almost completely useless. He becomes the unathletic kid who is being carried around by the others. In the first book he was awesome but then as said before is pretty much just there. He didn't do as much other than cause half the problems. I did enjoy the books (the last book in the series I read was that one with the lemur or sloth or whatever it was) but Artemis just isn't as awesome as he was when he was 12.[/spoiler] And by the way, since when is it horror? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrystalCyae Posted April 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 A couple of short scenes in The Opal Deceit were horror, I suppose, and presumably more. I only said it cuz I like the word. [spoiler= ......Lemme see.... ] Yeah, he was awesome at twelve. He unraveled the secret to the Gnommish Language, kidnapped Holly and did some amazing damn stuff. And then, more or less, he becomes an important MINOR character to Captain Holly Short. The 4th book practically revolved around her. I don't get the Blue Rinse thing either. I THINK the bomb blew up high above them, so he, and Butler, were out of range And I think the hormones kicked in the books at 14. I should know, I'm reading it. [/spoiler] Yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desu the Blue Nerd Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 [spoiler=My Theory]My guess is that since the blue rinse only effected that area where time stopped and that you can't appareantly fall asleep or wake up because of that then taking those sleeping pills and being forced asleep forced themselves out of the time stop area. By that I mean caused them to exist outside it even though they were clearly in it. Sop since they were out of it then the blue rinse had no effect. By the way, that horror thing. It's been a while so I don't remember the names of the books. Well I remember the Eternity Code but that's it. Third book, right? Anyway the Opal Deceit was the one with that one female pixie and those twin henchmen of hers, right? I think her name was Opal. Anyway, I think by that you mean when Artemis and Holly were in that wonders of the world amusement park place with all the trolls, right? Then I guess that could be considered horror.[/spoiler] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrystalCyae Posted April 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 [SPOILER=.] That'd be it. The pixie was Opal Koboi. To me so far, te troll part is the only horror so far. And yes, Eternity Code is third. 5th book = Artemis Fowl vs Mysterious Girl Genius. Dam this'll be fun to watch [/spoiler] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desu the Blue Nerd Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 [spoiler=We're still doing this?]Okay, thought so. It's been a bit since I read the books but I've been remembering alot of this stuff fine. Yeah, I remember that one. It doesn't seem to be as much of a mental battle as it does a lame love fest. I'm not much for mushy love stuff obviously.[/spoiler] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrystalCyae Posted April 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 [spoiler= Yes we are. Wai wut?] Neh, I'm only up to page 113, so I haven't gotten to far. All I know is that Artemis is suffering hormones and likes his new opponent...... And now she has that impy guy No.1 The Demon Warlock *dun dun dun*[/spoiler] Someone else needs to join this convo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desu the Blue Nerd Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 [spoiler=Wait what huh when?]Well I don't think I can say to much right now or I'll spoil it for you.[/spoiler] That would be a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 [spoiler=Do we have to do this spoiler stuff?] The mystery girl (SPMIOINERERVA) doesn't appear in the other books because apparently the author can't fit her in. But I want to see her again already. [/spoiler] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrystalCyae Posted April 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 [spoiler=.] Wut? Ahhh.... I like the idea of a female Artemis Fowl, and they only use her ONCE? No wai....[/spoiler] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desu the Blue Nerd Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 [spoiler=Yes we do have to. SHUT UP!]They reference her. She doesn't appear again but they do talk about her.[/spoiler] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrystalCyae Posted April 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 [spoiler=Okkkkk] Ahh right. But suddenly Artemis is 3 years younger than he shoudl be, and he's going back in time to verse the 10 year old him, which is him eight years prior, but he's fifteen.... Jeez life in confusing[/spoiler] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 [spoiler=Oh, I want to join in!]I've read all of them to date, thrice. I've read the part when Butler kicks the troll's ass even more. The Atlantis Complex is some crazy stuff. Orion is much funnier than Artemis; they should talk to each other more in the confines of their mind, even if talking to yourself may be considered crazy.[/spoiler] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fader Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 Eoin Colfer is an amazing author in his own right...Have you read Half Moon or The Supernaturalist? They're really good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flakman4000 Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 I've read the novel it was garbage I've read the graphic novel it's awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoneycombTroy Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 Yea, i read the graphic novel and it was AWESOME. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsianGuy1137 Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 The book isn't so much horror as mostly a fast-paced thriller. [quote]My guess is that since the blue rinse only effected that area where time stopped and that you can't appareantly fall asleep or wake up because of that then taking those sleeping pills and being forced asleep forced themselves out of the time stop area. By that I mean caused them to exist outside it even though they were clearly in it. Sop since they were out of it then the blue rinse had no effect.[/quote] Are we seriously going to try to have a legit scientific discussion about a fictional plot device in a children (or young adult I guess) fiction book? In String Theory, time exists outside of the three classic euclidian planes that make up the observable components of our universe so to quantify it by any way without actually understanding all the crazy theoretical physics behind it doesn't really make sense. As for the books, I agree with the first comment. He started out as the lovable deviant, but became much more pathetic as the author tried to make him seem more relatable and not as the perfect archetypal anti-hero. I kind of understand why the author would do that so the plot could have some kind of archetypal inner conflict that seems to be the morality of his own actions that eventually changes his personality and not have him just own everyone. Also, a 300 IQ? That's completely ridiculous. Anything above 150 is when IQ tests get really murky, more so than they already are because at that point, intelligence becomes exponentially harder to quantify. The main reason for that is that most IQ tests measure intelligence in relation to the standarized norm set by Mr. Binet and his successors. How would one define 300 comparatively? For a science fiction series as it tries to be sometimes, it fails horribly because that is inevitably not the intent of the author. As a series for entertainment, it has its moments, but the saving the world plot device gets old. As a series for exploring morality and other philosophical topics, it also doesn't really address anything too well as the entertainment aspect is the main focus. Overall, it comes off to me as something I would've enjoyed reading when I was younger, but gradually grow out of as I mature. [quote=author of topic]That sells it to me because I consider myself a genius.[/quote] O rly? How about a friendly game of internet chess sometime? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kizzi Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 [quote name='Fader' timestamp='1303348974' post='5155487'] Eoin Colfer is an amazing author in his own right...Have you read Half Moon or The Supernaturalist? They're really good. [/quote] I've read the first five (I think) Artemis Fowl books, Half-Moon Investigations and And Another Thing, and they were all reasonably good. While the character development in Artemis Fowl was kinda interesting, it didn't make for a brilliant series and I'll have to agree with most people and say the first book was most definitely the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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