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Beautiful episode.

I heard the subbers haven't updated 41 and 42 because they wanted the duel to finish, and then post all 3 episodes at once. Which is stupid as hell.

Neo Galaxy-Eyes...why you so sexy? (You will probably never hear/read me say that about a card again)

Shame that it doesn't show what happens to two certain Number holders' souls until next episode. And Wiki's info about episode 46 sounds real purely because of how III's been reacting to Yuma and IV during this duel.

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Aha, so IV did play another Number! And we finally see the next multiple of 10! Number 40...why is Konami making more archetype Numbers?! Although it seemed like it required 2 Level 8 Darks.

I'm pleased that Chaos Number 39 didn't steal the show too much. And it seems like V knows something about Yuma's last name (Wiki preview already told me this, but it's cool anyway).

The summoning of Neo Galaxy was amazingly more over-the-top than the original Galaxy-Eyes' Summoning.

Was anyone else hoping Kaito would make a "fanservice" remark and attack IV directly with Neo Galaxy's third attack?
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[quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1329166174' post='5815086']
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The summoning of Neo Galaxy was amazingly more over-the-top than the original Galaxy-Eyes' Summoning.

Was anyone else hoping Kaito would make a "fanservice" remark and attack IV directly with Neo Galaxy's third attack?
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Eh, it was over the top,butit was amazing nonetheless.

And, yes, I was really REALLY hoping he owuld
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[quote name='TheFinalFan' timestamp='1329168679' post='5815173']
Hmm...
Did anyone else notice how Yuma should've lost when Kaito Tribute Summoned Photon Kaiser?
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A few possibilities:

1- Inflicting Damage with Photon Pressure World is optional
2- Photon Kaiser was considered to be controlled by Yuma since it was Tribute Summoned with his monsters.

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[quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1329168924' post='5815180']
A few possibilities:

1- Inflicting Damage with Photon Pressure World is optional
2- Photon Kaiser was considered to be controlled by Yuma since it was Tribute Summoned with his monsters.
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Sure, but but if 1 is true, Kaito seemed to have no reservations of hurting III and IV in exchange for hurting Yuma as well.
And if 2 is true, then why didn't it show III and IV's Life Points going down by 800?

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[quote name='TheFinalFan' timestamp='1329169182' post='5815187']
Sure, but but if 1 is true, Kaito seemed to have no reservations of hurting III and IV in exchange for hurting Yuma as well.
And if 2 is true, then why didn't it show III and IV's Life Points going down by 800?
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Your analogy for point 1 is that if B = C then D = E. It's illogical.

He didn't care about hurting Yuma at the beginning, but then Yuma started putting his neck on the line for him, despite being his enemy.

Also, earlier on, Yuma would not have died from the burn alone.

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That was quite amazing...

[quote name='Dragon Sage Ω' timestamp='1329168833' post='5815178']
I was really confused by that too. But I mean, it wasn't like the rest of that turn went entirely conventional (where did Kaito get that second attack exactly?)
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I beleive for each absorbed Material NGPD gets an extra attack or something along those lines.

[quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1329169543' post='5815191']
Which leads me to think that the damage is optional, or the writers forgot about the Field Spell. I think the former is more likely, but the latter wouldn't surprise me, since they crammed a lot into this episode, time wise.
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It could very well have been the latter as I don't [i]think[/i] anything about it being optional was ever mentioned (or it would be listed as part of the effect on any YGO site that had the info about it), but they might have not brought it up to make it more dramatic.

While I would have liked the subbers to release the new episodes on time, I don't really have any complaints if they all come out on the same day and then I can marathon the best episodes of the series.

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[quote name='Dragon Sage Ω' timestamp='1329168833' post='5815178']
I was really confused by that too. But I mean, it wasn't like the rest of that turn went entirely conventional (where did Kaito get that second attack exactly?)
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For every absorbed Overlay Unit, Neo Galaxy-Eyes gets 500 ATK, and it can attack a number of times equal to the number of absorbed Overlays. So it gained 1500 ATK and could attack 3 times.

Again, my spoilered comment about how I had been hoping he'd use that completely unnecessary third attack.

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[quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1329179199' post='5815512']


For every absorbed Overlay Unit, Neo Galaxy-Eyes gets 500 ATK, and it can attack a number of times equal to the number of absorbed Overlays. So it gained 1500 ATK and could attack 3 times.

Again, my spoilered comment about how I had been hoping he'd use that completely unnecessary third attack.
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Like Yugi with his Berserker Soul.
"DORA! MONSTA KADDO!"

So... Do we know why IV kept saying "Fanservice"?

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[quote name='Wingal Brave' timestamp='1329180097' post='5815546']
Like Yugi with his Berserker Soul.
"DORA! MONSTA KADDO!"

So... Do we know why IV kept saying "Fanservice"?
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Because he views the duels where he inflicts sadistic damage to his opponents and makes them suffer to be service to his mediocre dueling "fans".

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Something else recently occurred to me about the last few episodes, based on the information I can safely gather while waiting for the subs.

For starters, it regards Orbital 7. I'll spoiler it because it's long, goes on my usual tangents, and mentions information from the recent episodes.

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In one of Haruto's flashbacks (as viewed by Tron), I noticed that Orbital was with him and Kaito, despite the fact the scene clearly took place before Kaito became a Number Hunter. Until that point, I had always assumed that Orbital was designed specifically to assist Kaito with his Number hunting, as he provided multiple means of transportation (glider, motorcycle), had the power to stop time (as explictly stated when they confronted Yuma in episode 13), and seems to be tasked with gathering information about Numbers.

Furthermore, Orbital is powered by Balian light, which is implied to also make up the technology in Kaito's Photon Hand (Orbital makes a comment about how Kaito has Balian light "in his hand"). Kaito also seems familiar with the concepts of the Balian and Astral World, whereas Astral has never heard of the Balian World until Kaito mentioned it during their encounter (in regards to why he was hunting for Numbers).

Dr. Faker is also quite obsessed with the Astral World, and some of his interactions with Mr. Heartland have indicated that Dr. Faker is Balian in origin, such as his first appearance, where he states something about how destroying the Astral World would save their world. Since the Astral World poses no obvious threat to Earth, and the idea of a third world is brought up later, and reinforced when the three suns appear in episode 25 (Astral recognizes one of them as being part of his world, the second is the normal sun, and Dr. Faker is knowledgeable about the phenomenon), it seems clear that Dr. Faker is definitely of the Balian World, and his presumed genius has a role in the advanced technology used that seems to be powered by Balian light.

But that brings up something else. If Orbital was associated closely with Haruto and Kaito prior to the Number Hunting, it strongly indicates that Kaito and Haruto are also Balian in origin or at least has close contact with Dr. Faker and/or his technology. Granted, I recall that Wiki says Kaito is definitely from a different dimension and is the adopted son of Dr. Faker. It seems the anime will also follow this concept to some degree.

Further confirmation seems to be in episode 13. While Mr. Heartland's exact relationship to Kaito and Haruto at that time is pretty vague, Dr. Faker says something to the effect of Kaito giving up something to protect Haruto (although the main subs I've seen indicate that Dr. Faker is referring to himself giving up humanity to protect them both, but Wiki says otherwise). Dr. Faker is also clearly using Haruto's power and the gathered Numbers for his own purposes, and Mr. Heartland has passed messages or orders between the two, such as when he told Kaito that he'd tell Dr. Faker about his passionate heart, and that Dr. Faker's orders is for Haruto to resume work. Kaito also seems somewhat aware of what Dr. Faker wants, or specifically, that he's not telling Kaito something.

Also, Orbital seems increasingly concerned about Kaito's wellbeing. In their debut episodes, Orbital seemed primarily like an assistant, but one that's overzealous and annoys the hell out of Kaito. Actually, this confuses me to some degree, as Orbital in the debut scene told Kaito to take out Number 56's holder in an aggressive manner, only becoming more subservient when he was glared at. He also urged Yuma to hurry up and take his turn, and urged Kaito to drain Yuma's soul, both comments annoying Kaito. In later episodes, Orbital continues to annoy Kaito by asking "unnecessary" questions. Also, Orbital has shown concern about Kaito overusing Photon Mode, was half-panicked when Kaito entered the portal in the Emperor's Key, and in the latest episodes, has shown both the same loudmouth pride in Kaito, but also seems uncomfortable with Kaito's attitude towards Yuma's help.

Fortunately, this does fit with the idea of a long-term relationship, as Orbital may be used to Kaito being far more casual and kind, which clashes with Kaito's present need to collect the Numbers efficiently and coldly for Haruto's sake. It also justifies why Orbital seems to have been constantly monitoring Haruto's health in episode 14 (as he informed Kaito within seconds). Kaito and Haruto's "link" in recent episodes also makes episode 14 more logical, as Kaito was immediately aware of Haruto's pain when Haruto collapsed.

On more purely spoiler-like info, Kaito becoming nonresponsive for about a minute or two when he was reduced to 100 makes an odd degree of sense. Similar to Yuma when cornered by Gauche and Droite in their Duel, he may actually have lost hope of winning. His best monster was useless, he had to win for a greater goal, but there was probably nothing he could do to defeat both of his opponents in one turn before Number 40's effect would take them out. But more than that, this was probably the ONE TIME since he became a Number Hunter that he was actually so close to genuinely losing. Until his Duel with Astral, he had never been seen taking damage, and even when Astral seemingly got the upper hand, he always did have something up his sleeve, such as Photon Circle's effect and Photon Shock.

This duel, however, both III and IV were constantly attacking his LP, and it was always Yuma bailing him out, even at the cost of his own LP. Worse, I bet in the back of his mind, he was also distinctly aware that III and IV were Number holders, possibly Hunters as well. So if he lost, not only would he somewhat be forfeiting Haruto's safety (and the kid was definitely not in good hands), but he'd probably lose all his Numbers, putting him back to square 1 in his quest to help Haruto, wasting almost all his efforts up to that point, possibly lose his soul if III and IV have Photon Hand, and give his enemies at least 14 more Numbers, and possibly all of Yuma's Numbers too.

I'd probably go mildly comatose with all that on my mind, too. That would have been one of the greatest confidence crushers ever.
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[quote name='~King Crouton~' timestamp='1329352973' post='5819208']
Neo-Galaxy Eyes' debut was so much better than Shooting Star's. The best part is that we didn't have to wait a week to see Kaito finish them off with it.

Also, am I the only one who noticed Kaito is wearing that goofy green tiara in the flashback scene where he wears normal clothes?
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Goofy green tiara? What?

Are you referring to his hair? He has blonde hair with green lining. All Zexal characters seem to have two-color hair.

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I kind of think III will eventually become a good guy and help Yuma and the others. V might pull a Rex Goodwin and be a "final boss" if you would. I predict Yuma will use Revise against Shark. I'm kind of getting a vibe Gauche will be seen dueling more often and be another rival towards Yuma. Thing is, if Astral takes the 3 Numbers that were used against Yuma and Kaito in their duel, and the Tron bros have anywhere from 6-8 Numbers total, will IV use a different Number, ( and deck since his 2 Numbers went with that deck ) in the duel against Shark which will come sooner or later? With Shark having Number 32, I doubt any of the Tron bros would duel him without at least 1 Number in their deck.

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