Merci Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 [quote name='機皇神龍アステリスク' timestamp='1314034375' post='5462669'] My interest in pursuing a long-term relationship with this series of animation cells is dependent on her effect. I'm not as shallow as the rest of you. [/quote] So you're actually perverted enough to go for long-term relationships? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 It seems that the higher a Number's number is, the more intelligent they are. Galaxy Queen was capable of speech, and then Black Mist was capable of that and planning. Also, the Emperor's Key seems to be the thing that prevents Yuma/Astral from being taken over by the Numbers, but they're either slow taking over, or Astral acts as a secondary defense, which was probably why the Numbers failed to control Yuma in Episode 19, while in 20, when Yuma got a Number that was stronger than Astral, they were taken over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jord200 Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 [quote name='Manzo Ishikawa' timestamp='1314092651' post='5463284'] It seems that the higher a Number's number is, the more intelligent they are. Galaxy Queen was capable of speech, and then Black Mist was capable of that and planning. Also, the Emperor's Key seems to be the thing that prevents Yuma/Astral from being taken over by the Numbers, but they're either slow taking over, or Astral acts as a secondary defense, which was probably why the Numbers failed to control Yuma in Episode 19, while in 20, when Yuma got a Number that was stronger than Astral, they were taken over. [/quote] Thats probaby true. It would make sense for higher Numbers to have higher intelligence. However, since Galaxy Queen wasn't able to overpower Astral, mabye only Numbers 90 and up, have that kind of strength? I'm just curious to how Tetsuo was able to not be possessed by Hope. It looked like Hope tried to take control, but failed. Another thing before I forget, I have a feeling Kaito will use new Numbers in his duel against Shark. It would be boring if he just used Ilumiknight and Briliant again, and I can't really see Kaito using Goldrat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 Shark's gonna lose, sad really, and then in Episode 23, Astral (Yes, Astral himself) is gonna duel Kaito. Then he's gonna lose too and Yuma has to enter the Duel Carnival alone. Tetsuo wasn't taken over because he held the Emperor's Key, remember? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiithepeople Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 [img]http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/9825/tragdubs.png[/img] I just realized something. In this episode, Yuma makes the perfect troll. I laughed so freaking hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jord200 Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 [quote name='Manzo Ishikawa' timestamp='1314103950' post='5463384'] Shark's gonna lose, sad really, and then in Episode 23, Astral (Yes, Astral himself) is gonna duel Kaito. Then he's gonna lose too and Yuma has to enter the Duel Carnival alone. Tetsuo wasn't taken over because he held the Emperor's Key, remember? [/quote] oh yeah, thats right- wait....Astral himself is going to duel Kaito? Where did that info come from? O_O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 [quote name='Jord200' timestamp='1314104205' post='5463390'] oh yeah, thats right- wait....Astral himself is going to duel Kaito? Where did that info come from? O_O [/quote] Pojo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiithepeople Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 [quote name='Manzo Ishikawa' timestamp='1314104583' post='5463395'] Pojo. [/quote] lol Pojo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinolovania Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 I'm actually almost starting to like this as much as I like 5Ds. Almost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiithepeople Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 [media='']http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXh1XbAKgmA[/media] Contains majority of Tetsuo vs. No. 96 Also, by skipping to 5 minutes and 30 seconds, see Yuma troll Black Mist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 Just saw it. Half the time, I was like "JUST GIVE YUMA THE DAMN KEY AND EVERYTHING WILL FIX ITSELF!" I mean, that IS what happened in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 [quote name='Okami - Shiranui' timestamp='1314108976' post='5463509'] Just saw it. Half the time, I was like "JUST GIVE YUMA THE DAMN KEY AND EVERYTHING WILL FIX ITSELF!" [/quote] Yami Astral would not have been happy had Tetsuo tried that before he was in the "Number's Zetsubou Zone". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiithepeople Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 You two don't understand. If Tetsuo gave Yuma the key, Black Mist would have corrupted it or something and Astral would have disappeared. And on top of that, when Tetsuo summoned Hope, he would have been possessed by it. Remember Tokunosuke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 Hope did try to possess Tetsuo. Tetsuo just shook it off. The key was keeping Dark Astral from reclaiming Hope. I think that was what he was doing when he extended his arm, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinolovania Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 [quote name='Noel Vermillion' timestamp='1314031464' post='5462515'] [img]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/yugioh/images/thumb/0/0d/Zexal_Magician_Girl.jpg/640px-Zexal_Magician_Girl.jpg[/img] Gagaga Magician Girl? :3 [/quote] Let it be named Lady Gagaga Magician. Please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 [quote name='Legend Zero' timestamp='1310924387' post='5363245'] Dr. Faker and other evil guy discuss it. Then Faker gives the ok. <__<[/quote] Mr. Heartland is DARKKNIGHTMON, which is incredibly awesome, but it also makes it hard to watch the guy and not think "Wait, this guy is a totally different character from DarkKnightmon, but not really." I fell behind, but right now I'm watching 16. The show continues to have few likable characters (It says a lot that I find Kaito more sympathetic than Yuma), and I honestly don't get why Akari is popular when I think she's one of the biggest jerks in Zexal. At least Kaito and Shark have their reasons, but I actually blame Akari for Yuma's obnoxious personality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 That could be because Kaito actually has a reason to collect Numbers that isn't personal gain, and the fact he's probably being misled/borderline blackmailed due to his brother's condition, a condition Dr. Faker is exploiting, makes him sympathetic. He doesn't enjoy frightening his victims, doesn't enjoy taking souls, seems to have honor, etc. And he's badass. I love his character. Akari is a jerk. But in a big-sister way, not out of spite. I don't really like her, but we barely see her and she's usually harping on Yuma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 That's exactly what I was thinking about Kaito. But seriously, exploiting an older sibling's love for their younger brother, and being manipulated by a man voiced by Jurota Kosugi? That doesn't remind me of anyone. Not at all. Kaito is definitely an interesting rival character, and I'm glad that they established him as sympathetic as soon as they did. The WCD plot kind of bugs me because the WRGP is way too fresh in everyone's mind. I'm sure it won't be a bad arc, but it just feels way too soon for the franchise to have another tournament arc. I'm glad to see someone agrees with me about Akari. I know Akari is meant to come off as an overprotective sister, but first impressions show her as being needlessly tyrannical, although apparently recent episodes have explained that, but nearly twenty episodes in is a bit too long. As for her harping on Yuma, when she showed up in episode 16, Yuma was [i]terrified[/i] of her, practically afraid for his life, and you know what? I actually felt that it was a realistic reaction rather than one that was simply exaggerated. From what I've seen, [i]no one[/i] likes Yuma, but Akari seems to be fine, even though I think that Yuma simply acts the way he does as form of rebellion, and that wouldn't be necessary if Akari wasn't so controlling. Akari made Yuma the way he is, and that makes Yuma surprisingly sympathetic, and I think that makes Akari my least favorite character in the show. With Dr. Faker and Mr. Heartland, you're supposed to hate them because they're evil. Akari has managed to be more intolerable than either of them, which is never a good thing. Please tell me that there's a decent explanation for Akari's attitude. I hated on Crow a lot during 5D's, but he didn't deserve that because he was a genuinely good guy and he deserved to be a Signer. There's nothing about Akari that's remotely likable. At all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 I dont know what Dr Faker's voice actor relates to. Let's run down what Akari has done this series: -Episode 1, she tells Yuma he can wake himself up (typical big sis thing). -Episode 3, she yells at Yuma because computers went down. She then recruits him and Kotori to WATCH THE LIBRARY. For hours. -Episode 5, it's revealed she doesn't let him duel. -Episode 13, she orders Yuma to find something she can use for a story...about a bat-wielding criminal who has taken hostages in the mall. REAL nice there, sis. -Episode 15, she's mad that Yuma might be dueling. -Episode 16, she arrives WHILE he's dueling. He SHOULD be freaked out, considering how aggressively she opposes his dueling. But she gives a tentative go-ahead afterwards. According to episode 19, their dad told her to keep an eye on the dueling. I don't hate Akari, I just don't like her. I don't really care for Yuma because he pretty much uses 6 different cards and then whatever the writers throw him. And he never uses a different Number that isn't Number 39 or Number 17. As the Duel Carnival, tournament arcs are a popular fallback in Yugioh, and it seems to be partly to encourage Number distribution. Other Number holders might win other Numbers, Kaito will win Numbers (wonder how they'd explain him Photon Handing his opponent, though), and Yuma will win more Numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 Jurota Kosugi is Mr. Heartland. Said seiyu voices the character depicted in my avatar, and manipulating Kaito by playing on his love for Haruto is reminiscent of what DarkKnightmon (Actually, SkullKnightmon) does in Digimon Xros Wars. Honestly, if it wasn't for that fact that SkullKnightmon happens to be one of my favorite villains, I wouldn't have noticed this. See, the fact that Akari practically forces Yuma into danger, yet apparently reacts to his dueling as though he committed a crime, is just hypocritical. Just because Papa Tsukumo told her to keep an eye on him doesn't explain her behavior. I don't like Yuma either, since he's a lousy protagonist, but at least he has his reasons. The only characters I actually like in this show are Kotori, Ukyo, Tokunosuke, Fuya, Shark, and Kaito, and out of those six, three of them were introduced as villains with very good backstories that explained why they are the way they are. The series should just be about them. ...Great, I just got another idea for a fanfic. Yuma used Number 17 only once. He seriously needs to use something other than that, Hope, and Baby Toragon. At least the WDC has a good reason for existing. Still, this series is just trading one common plot for another. Monster of the Week -> Tournament Arc isn't exactly the setup for a great plot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 [quote name='Phantom Roxas' timestamp='1314169593' post='5465350'] Jurota Kosugi is Mr. Heartland. Said seiyu voices the character depicted in my avatar, and manipulating Kaito by playing on his love for Haruto is reminiscent of what DarkKnightmon (Actually, SkullKnightmon) does in Digimon Xros Wars. Honestly, if it wasn't for that fact that SkullKnightmon happens to be one of my favorite villains, I wouldn't have noticed this. See, the fact that Akari practically forces Yuma into danger, yet apparently reacts to his dueling as though he committed a crime, is just hypocritical. Just because Papa Tsukumo told her to keep an eye on him doesn't explain her behavior. I don't like Yuma either, since he's a lousy protagonist, but at least he has his reasons. The only characters I actually like in this show are Kotori, Ukyo, Tokunosuke, Fuya, Shark, and Kaito, and out of those six, three of them were introduced as villains with very good backstories that explained why they are the way they are. The series should just be about them. ...Great, I just got another idea for a fanfic. [b]Yuma used Number 17 only once.[/b] He seriously needs to use something other than that, Hope, and Baby Toragon. At least the WDC has a good reason for existing. Still, this series is just trading one common plot for another. Monster of the Week -> Tournament Arc isn't exactly the setup for a great plot. [/quote] Episode 4: Yuma uses Number 17 to destroy Number 34 Episode 6: Yuma Summons Number 17 to fight Number 39, but it too is stolen Episode 14: Yuma brings out Number 17, revealing his second Numbers to Kaito At least 3 times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jord200 Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 I agree, Yuma could use some of his other Numbers. I mean if he's going to to through the trouble to use monsters that can summon Tragon, he could at at least put Galaxy Queen in his Extra Deck. It also seems like he has a decent amount of Level 3 and 4 monsters, so he could also use Terror Byte and Shock Ruler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1314169848' post='5465356'] Episode 4: Yuma uses Number 17 to destroy Number 34 Episode 6: Yuma Summons Number 17 to fight Number 39, but it too is stolen Episode 14: Yuma brings out Number 17, revealing his second Numbers to Kaito At least 3 times. [/quote] For some reason, I could only remember the fact that he used it in Episode 4. Somehow its appearance in Episode 14 was not fresh in my mind. I forgot to say, I also like Astral. Still, only seven characters are likable? That's sad. [quote name='Jord200' timestamp='1314191040' post='5465532'] I agree, Yuma could use some of his other Numbers. I mean if he's going to to through the trouble to use monsters that can summon Tragon, he could at at least put Galaxy Queen in his Extra Deck. It also seems like he has a decent amount of Level 3 and 4 monsters, so he could also use Terror Byte and Shock Ruler. [/quote] I think that the other Numbers just don't suit him. We're probably going to get a duel where he uses his other ones, though, starting with Terror Byte and Galaxy Queen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 [quote name='Jord200' timestamp='1314191040' post='5465532']I agree, Yuma could use some of his other Numbers. [b]I mean if he's going to to through the trouble to use monsters that can summon Tragon, he could at at least put Galaxy Queen in his Extra Deck.[/b] It also seems like he has a decent amount of Level 3 and 4 monsters, so he could also use Terror Byte and Shock Ruler.[/quote] He isn't. From what I've seen, Yuma is running only 3 Level 1 monsters, one of which was simply a plot device. He summoned Tragon using the [s]Cuebone[/s] Chewbones that were summoned to his field. And in the same duel, Yuma did mention having Terror Byte. Considering the only two I've ever seen the cards for (in the show) are 17 and 39, I first thought that those were the only two he got. I'm glad to see he still has the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 So I finally returned to Janime after being gone for so long, and apparently a lot of people have theorized that Mr. Heartland is Kotori's father. Mr. Heartland seems to be able to produce wacky theories involving the best characters in this show. Yuma doesn't have many Level 5 monsters, so he can't use Freezerdon and/or Magmasaurus. There's no excuse for why he can't use the other Xyzs though. I'm expecting a duel where he shows off all his Xyzs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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