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[quote name='Klavier Gavin' timestamp='1311018505' post='5366783']
Guys...
[img]http://images.wikia.com/yugioh/images/d/d8/ZL015.jpg[/img]
Is it just me, or guy on the right looks like Placido?
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HOLY CRAP. He does look like Placido.

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*shudder* don't even make me IMAGINE 4kids dubbing this.

that reminds me, I really hope they lose the case and lose Yu-Gi-Oh! for good. I suggested to FUNimation that they should take in the Yu-Gi-Oh! rights if and when 4kids loses them. I really want ZeXal to get a DECENT dub...but with cool music on par with that of 4Kids. Honestly - it's the only thing I like about that company. Toon world and the seal's themes = epic.

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People tend to overhate 4Kids only because others do, thus creating a cycle. Personally, I don't think 4Kids is all that bad. Sure, they change names and edit out EVERY SINGLE REFERENCE TO VIOLENCE, but they actually have good music and voice actors (ESPECIALLY Dan Green). I'm not quite sure if another company could do the same job. . . . .

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[quote name='Manzo Ishikawa' timestamp='1311176131' post='5371681']
People tend to overhate 4Kids only because others do, thus creating a cycle. Personally, I don't think 4Kids is all that bad. Sure, they change names and edit out EVERY SINGLE REFERENCE TO VIOLENCE, but they actually have good music and voice actors (ESPECIALLY Dan Green). I'm not quite sure if another company could do the same job. . . . .
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Quoted for *censored* truth and/or emphasis.

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I dont hate 4Kids as a dubbing company. What I hate is not the censorship, the name changes, or the voices, because that's hit or miss with everything. (Although they really annoyed me with the Yliaster trio in 5Ds).

What I hate about their dubs is not even the puns they overdo. I despise MISTAKES in the dub, like saying "Spell" when it's a Trap, or other errors that anyone looking at the video and listening to the lines would immediately notice. I get mistakes in the script from time to time, but it happens so often, it makes me wonder whether the voice actors even know what they're saying the lines in response to. And why no one seems to catch this. It feels sloppy and like they don't even care, and they might not, but doing it makes me feel like they don't care much about the audience that would notice.

And I find the original much more awesome in terms of music and the sound of Japanese speaking.

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4Kids voice actors are mostly/all freelance. Chew on that for a bit before complimenting their voicing staff.

In any case, finally got around to watching the statue duel subbed.

We need better subbers. Seriously.

I mean, they seriously translated "[url="http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=kisama"]kisama[/url]" as "you" instead of "bastard"/"scum"?

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[quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1311178127' post='5371755']
I dont hate 4Kids as a dubbing company. What I hate is not the censorship, the name changes, or the voices, because that's hit or miss with everything. (Although they really annoyed me with the Yliaster trio in 5Ds).

What I hate about their dubs is not even the puns they overdo. I despise MISTAKES in the dub, like saying "Spell" when it's a Trap, or other errors that anyone looking at the video and listening to the lines would immediately notice. I get mistakes in the script from time to time, but it happens so often, it makes [b]me wonder whether the voice actors even know what they're saying the lines in response to[/b]. And why no one seems to catch this. It feels sloppy and like they don't even care, and they might not, but doing it makes me feel like they don't care much about the audience that would notice.

And I find the original much more awesome in terms of music and the sound of Japanese speaking.
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They don't. This isn't something that's exclusive to 4Kids, but they don't even read the line they're responding to, let alone read it. At least that's what I recall.

For 5D's, I don't have a problem with most/almost all of the voice actors - the Yliaster trio isn't actually bad, the voices just aren't appropriate for the characters. Jack is So Bad It's Good. I thought ZONE was quite good, though maybe not as distorted as I would've liked.

On a related note, I have to wonder why they choose to change all the music...iirc, they also redo all the sound effects. I mean, why? From their (and Konami's) twisted perspective, the censorship, punny lines (dur hur), and new opening song all make sense, but why expend the money just to replace everything with somewhat worse music?

I have to admit, I was hoping they would replace Clear Mind with some English version. I don't care how bad it would be, it would be [i]worth it[/i].

EDIT: I would sub it, but I don't know Japanese and don't have a way to get the raws. In other words, I can't.

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Where did you watch the subs? I've been watching it on animeavenue.com, and so far I'm thrilled, but I'm also rather Japanese-incompetent aside from key words. I kind of like that the subber I've seen sometimes explains something based on wording (like Astral misinterpreting the meaning of a word).

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[quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1311469943' post='5381818']
Where did you watch the subs? I've been watching it on animeavenue.com, and so far I'm thrilled, but I'm also rather Japanese-incompetent aside from key words. I kind of like that the subber I've seen sometimes explains something based on wording (like Astral misinterpreting the meaning of a word).
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I just checked the site you mentioned.

It's the same bad subber I was referring to.

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