evilfusion Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 [quote name='The blazing MARS' timestamp='1310570056' post='5351380'] Who said the Antagonist can't be the Protaganist? [/quote] Well, by definition, if Kaito is the protagonist, than Yuma is the antagonist. There is such a thing as Villain protagonists, but that typically involves the story through a different viewpoint. Honestly, I don't think Kaito would work as the protagonist unless he turns against Dr. Faker near the end, so as to maintain the idea behind a final enemy either using the protagonist or directly opposing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jord200 Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1310584950' post='5351930'] Well, by definition, if Kaito is the protagonist, than Yuma is the antagonist. There is such a thing as Villain protagonists, but that typically involves the story through a different viewpoint. Honestly, I don't think Kaito would work as the protagonist unless he turns against Dr. Faker near the end, so as to maintain the idea behind a final enemy either using the protagonist or directly opposing them. [/quote] True enough. Kaito would also need a little more of a backstory if he were the protaganist. Like what happened to his biological parrents for example. ( I'm guessing they're dead. ) Also, I heard 1 of the Fortune Teller guy''s Numbers is called. Number 11- Big Eye, and it it seems it requires two Level 7 monsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 [quote name='Jord200' timestamp='1310586864' post='5352033'] True enough. Kaito would also need a little more of a backstory if he were the protaganist. Like what happened to his biological parrents for example. ( I'm guessing they're dead. ) Also, I heard 1 of the Fortune Teller guy''s Numbers is called. Number 11- Big Eye, and it it seems it requires two Level 7 monsters. [/quote] Really? Big Eye...? [img]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20061103225015/yugioh/images/thumb/1/19/BigEyeMRD-NA-C-UE.jpg/300px-BigEyeMRD-NA-C-UE.jpg[/img] prblem? Well, and maybe... DR. FAKER CAN BE KAITO'S FATHER *SHOT* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 I think he actually is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1310602211' post='5352888'] I think he actually is. [/quote] The terrible truth. -Hair color -Facial expressions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 [img]http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/1814/zexalspoilers.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted July 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1310602211' post='5352888'] I think he actually is. [/quote] Kaito was adopted by Faker if I remember correctly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 ...Yeah, but this is an Anime. BTW, the new Numbers (No.11 and No.16) can both debut as Angels from Evangelion, and no one will say it doesn't fit the concept. They look badass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greiga Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 Big eye is obviously a sattelite of some sort, does any one know what the hell No. 16 is? Also, whats te full name of No. 16, since me know no kanji. I know its something like No. 16 [..........] Shokku Ruura (Shock Ruler) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 "Controller of Colors, Shock Ruler". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParadoxCaller Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 I´m currently watching Zexal and I think its pretty good so far, remember that its hard to come up with new stuff after 3 previous Yugioh series and theres a lot of hidden plot twistes yet to be revealed in Zexal. But I can agree that the main carachter can be kind of a pain in the A hole. I get the feeling that they´re trying to reinvent yugioh a bit with Zexal, so I´m gonna watch it until the end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 Just watched Episode 14. ZeXal is getting more interesting IMO, especially the concept of 'Number Hunters'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 The tournament is going to be full of Numbers Hunters. Also, Shark will probably face Kaito. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiithepeople Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 [quote name='Legend Zero' timestamp='1310908007' post='5362734'] The tournament is going to be full of Numbers Hunters. Also, Shark will probably face Kaito. [/quote] And since Shark is not a main character, he loses automatically to the main villain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 [quote name='D・モバホン' timestamp='1310913957' post='5362856'] And since Shark is not a main character, he loses automatically to the main villain. [/quote] Obviously. Unless there is a round robin type tournament, in which Shark has a [i][size="1"]slim[/size][/i] chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinolovania Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 [quote name='Legend Zero' timestamp='1310915695' post='5362897'] Obviously. Unless there is a round robin type tournament, in which Shark has a [i][size="1"]slim[/size][/i] chance. [/quote] If he does lose, I'll re-write part of the duel to make him win. ...But I suppose i should actually get around to watching EP 9 first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 So they're planning on making a tournament arc. Just like every Yugioh except GX (since the tournament was almost completely irrelevent to Jaden's end of the plot). Well, it'll still probably be an improvement over "monster of the week" style plot with the Numbers. I was kind of amused that Kaito realized Yuma was also a "Number Hunter", because it suggests (between the lines) that Kaito might be willing to let Yuma walk around some more and "help" him collect the Numbers, especially since Yuma's no match for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greiga Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 Where does it say there's gonna be a tournament? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 [quote name='The big SATURN' timestamp='1310922907' post='5363171'] Where does it say there's gonna be a tournament? [/quote] Dr. Faker and other evil guy discuss it. Then Faker gives the ok. <__< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greiga Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 Oh..... I don't speak japanese. >_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 [quote name='The big SATURN' timestamp='1310925212' post='5363283'] Oh..... I don't speak japanese. >_> [/quote] The episode was subbed a long time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 Yeah, it was subbed like 3 days ago. Mr. Heartland (the mayor, I think) suggested throwing a Duel Carnival and tournament to attract Numbers holders. If Kaito enters the tournament, he reasons, he will get a lot of Numbers. Interestingly, this is the first time someone puts out the logical question: "What if Kaito loses?" Unfortunately, the counter reasoning is essentially "That's impossible, Kaito's deck is the best". I've said it in the past: If your only response to a negative result is "It won't happen", your plan is seriously flawed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cakey Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1310929023' post='5363482'] Yeah, it was subbed like 3 days ago. Mr. Heartland (the mayor, I think) suggested throwing a Duel Carnival and tournament to attract Numbers holders. If Kaito enters the tournament, he reasons, he will get a lot of Numbers. Interestingly, this is the first time someone puts out the logical question: "What if Kaito loses?" Unfortunately, the counter reasoning is essentially "That's impossible, Kaito's deck is the best". I've said it in the past: If your only response to a negative result is "It won't happen", your plan is seriously flawed. [/quote] I haven't been watching episodes for a while, but unless Kaiba or Jack step through time and space to participate in the tournament, I wouldn't be concerned about Kaito losing [color="#FFFFFF"]to anyone other than Yuma[/color]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 To tell the truth, I think Kaito's more badass than Shark. Besides, Kaito's [b]the [i]true[/i] rival.[/b] Galaxy-Eyes has 3000 ATK. HAHAHA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiithepeople Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 I just noticed something... If you put a mustache on Faker, would he not look like Dr. Wily? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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