Aerion Brightflame Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 Wait a sec.... That implies they are actually revisiting the whole: Photon Transformation is killing you plot-line (In some respects) Despite everything else, ZeXal seems really good at keeping to it's own internal continuity. Also I think that's a first, a character actually going blind mid duel for any YGO series? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jord200 Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 Wait a sec.... That implies they are actually revisiting the whole: Photon Transformation is killing you plot-line (In some respects) Despite everything else, ZeXal seems really good at keeping to it's own internal continuity. Also I think that's a first, a character actually going blind mid duel for any YGO series? Indeed it is. I also figured something out. The reason for Durbe's comrades killing him and Mach? They were brainwashed by Don Thousand, just like Alito's prince friend. The people in Misael's country, same thing. Not sure about Gilag though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 It's actually pretty simple to work out, once you know the shaman is Don Thousand deliberately getting the human Barians killed.' Durbe: His friends fought him, but he wouldn't fight back. Him and his pegasus being killed broke the brainwashing on them. Mizael: Shaman Thousand convinced them either through brainwashing or coercing that the dragon was at fault. Mizael's plea had no effect because at least SOME of them were brainwashed, and I suspect a crowd mentality might have helped, too. Gilag: He said that their efforts to help commoners turned the nobility against them, and the battle was unwinnable from the start, which is why he fired the tanuki: So that he would be spared. Don Thousand could easily have manipulated the nobility. Vector obviously tampered with dark rituals already and probably served Don Thousand already. In addition, Vector's actions resulted in Merag's death. Nasch's death remains unknown at this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 Vector obviously tampered with dark rituals already and probably served Don Thousand already. In addition, Vector's actions resulted in Merag's death. Nasch's death remains unknown at this time. I'd like to know how Nasch was killed as a human, though we'll find out when Vector and Nasch face off in December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro Dude Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 How about this for a plot twist: After Vector is killed, Don Thousand appears and the faces of Yuma's fallen comrades appear all over his body, taunting him for failing them. He then transforms into Merag to torment Nasch during a duel between Yuma, Nasch and Don Merag. How's that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 How about this for a plot twist: After Vector is killed, Don Thousand appears and the faces of Yuma's fallen comrades appear all over his body, taunting him for failing them. He then transforms into Merag to torment Nasch during a duel between Yuma, Nasch and Don Merag. How's that? That doesn't sound like much of a twist. What advantage would be gained by doing that? Also, that's not what a plot twist actually means. A plot twist is an unexpected event or revelation that drastically changes a situation or expected outcome. Shingetsu being Vector is one such plot twist. Shark being Nasch was a plot twist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro Dude Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 It'll mess with Nasch's head. How could he fight his own sister? It'll mess with Yuma too since he considered Rio a friend. Like Mai from the original yugioh said: "Psychology is only half the game." Think about it. How could the duelist formerly known as Shark stand to hurt his own sister, after trying so hard to save her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More than 3 characters Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Wait a sec.... That implies they are actually revisiting the whole: Photon Transformation is killing you plot-line (In some respects) Despite everything else, ZeXal seems really good at keeping to it's own internal continuity. Also I think that's a first, a character actually going blind mid duel for any YGO series?Clearly Kaito has overused the Mangekyo Sharingan.I actually want for Yuma to go ZEXAL again soon because I want to see more ZS monsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 Okay, so my current understanding is that the Legendary Numbers not only hold the true memories of the Barian Emperors, but were sealing Don Thousand's power. The Over-Hundred Numbers were created by Don Thousand and seal the memories of the Barian Emperors. If the Legendary Number fights against the Over-Hundred Number of the same person, the cards resonate and will reveal the real memories of the Barian Emperors. So that's why Alito's going to face Gilag with No.64. Notably, Gilag did seem to regain a portion of his memories when Yuma fought No.64 that was using his body. It also means, conveniently enough, that Kaito has No.46 which corresponds to Mizael's No.107 and is already known to be directly related to Mizael's past life. Here's a problem, though. Um...Nasch's Legendary Number is 73. While his Duel against Abyss did have Abyss say that Shark/Nasch had told him in the past to resurrect his lost memories, it means that Don Thousand's memory seal is No.101. And Nasch has both his Legendary Number AND No.101. I'm curious how this will pan out with Vector, Durbe, and Merag. Vector seems to be successful in defeating them. And Vector also possesses his own Legendary Number counterpart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 New Number ahoy! Number 43: Soul Marionetter the Soul Puppeteering Ogre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFMegamanlan Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 Huh, who has that one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 Seeing as it's a Rank 2: it's Vector's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFMegamanlan Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 Probably... I kinda want it to go back to some generic villain has a Number and Yuma has to beat him to win... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Sage Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 Nope, Vector seems to be Summoning it this episode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jord200 Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 The question is, is it fake or real? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro Dude Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 Question, If Yuma beats Vector, will Dumon and Merag be restored? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFMegamanlan Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 Nope, Vector seems to be Summoning it this episode. I'm saying we all know Vector is using it, I just rather that It was a random villain and not Vector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faytl Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 Hey cool, I got to the RAW first. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x17kp7w_yu-gi-oh-zexal-ii-episode-131-hd_shortfilms?search_algo=2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 I'm saying we all know Vector is using it, I just rather that It was a random villain and not Vector. Vector > random villains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFMegamanlan Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 Vector > random villains. The problem is there's too much of Vector now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 The problem is there's too much of Vector now. You can never have too much Vector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 Vector is, and pretty much always has, been the villain behind everything. There hasn't been "too much" of Vector because he hasn't Dueled in ages. He last Dueled against Yuma at Sargasso, and plot wise, he's important, but he's been doing a lot of sitting on the sidelines. I'm just glad he's still using an Umbral Deck, because that archetype got next to nothing. And I'm not surprised he has a Level 2. I had a feeling he was going to Summon No.96. An absurd amount of dialogue meant this episode has a lot of interesting things, but I didn't follow most of it. We didn't get confirmation either way for Number 80, but considering it's Vector, I think No.43 is real. He did have No.66, after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faytl Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 This duel disappointed me in Durbe. First time he's dueled since that lame Sargasso battle and what does he do? He uses the same... damn.... combo to summon his Number that he used the FIRST time. Holy Lightning literally only has those 4 monsters and now one crappy spell. Same for Merag, we only saw one new monster from her and we don't even know it's effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 Vector is, and pretty much always has, been the villain behind everything. There hasn't been "too much" of Vector because he hasn't Dueled in ages. He last Dueled against Yuma at Sargasso, and plot wise, he's important, but he's been doing a lot of sitting on the sidelines. I'm just glad he's still using an Umbral Deck, because that archetype got next to nothing. And I'm not surprised he has a Level 2. I had a feeling he was going to Summon No.96. An absurd amount of dialogue meant this episode has a lot of interesting things, but I didn't follow most of it. We didn't get confirmation either way for Number 80, but considering it's Vector, I think No.43 is real. He did have No.66, after all. Number 66 is the reason why I believe 43 may be real; Vector seems to have Astral Numbers on him for seemingly no reason, and a sign they're real is when he uses them himself. As for Durbe and Merag's cards, I agree that they were severely lacking. For Durbe, they could have given him more interesting and useful Star Seraphs to compensate for how much the old set minuses you, and good Spell/Trap support. For Merag, that stupid Spell Monster could have been a decent support card that Special Summons WATER Winged Beasts, and they could have given her a second new WATER Winged Beast. What makes it even worse is that Spell Monsters are never released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 Durbe was disappointing in terms of cards. Which is especially saddening because this Duel will probably be his last one, since Vector almost assuredly will win, and Durbe's archetype is awful. Even No.102 is awful because it's LIGHT specific. Merag, I guess I'm just not expecting much from her. As Rio, she was interesting, but as Merag, both past and present, she seems to be too tacked on, like the only point to her existence is to be victimized (Yes, Rio had this trait, too, but she was motivated by this to improve her own strength and skills). So yeah, the dialogue seems significantly more interesting than the Duel itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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