Yu-Gi-Oh! ZeXal Sub/Manga Official Discussion Thread

[~British Soul~]

Yeah, from what I've heard, there's no true confirmation for these yet, though it IS possible that these are legit. Although, thinking about it now, why wouldn't Kaito have gone to Faker before for intel on the Barian World? To do it now seems really sudden.

If you remember towards the end of the latest episode, Kaito buggered off somewhere on Orbital. He probs said to Yuma that he was gonna get intel on the Barian World.

[Dementuo]

If you remember towards the end of the latest episode, Kaito buggered off somewhere on Orbital. He probs said to Yuma that he was gonna get intel on the Barian World.

I don't recall him saying anything like that, with my very rough translation skills. I might've missed him saying the word Barian somewhere, but I don't think so. I just assumed he rode off to go join the fight, probably against Misael.

[~British Soul~]

I don't recall him saying anything like that, with my very rough translation skills. I might've missed him saying the word Barian somewhere, but I don't think so. I just assumed he rode off to go join the fight, probably against Misael.

I have bugger-all japanese translation skills, so it was only an assumption.

[Dementuo]

I have barely any myself, I'm just making conjecture based off logic. I'm not going to defend nor protest against these summaries until we get some solid confirmation.

[Just Crouton]

Watched Zexal for the first time since February, and from what I've just seen, the Barian have gone from being Sailor Moon villains to Doma/Shadow Riders/Dark Signers?

[Faytl]

They have certainly taken a few levels in competence, if that's what you mean.

 

EDIT: I notice these previews make no mention of Durbe or Merag. This worries me. We still don't know the effect of Durbe's Over-Hundred Chaos Number, and we have no idea about even the base form for Merag's. Both of them need to have a duel soon, especially Durbe, he's only really had his duel with Droite that you see about 20 seconds of and his duel with Shark, which hardly counts.

Now, here's something I would like: Merag seems to be having more doubts about what the Barians are doing than the others. She could possibly decide to help Yuma, but could be confronted by Durbe, and the two duel.

A duel between them would be quite interesting, I think, and we'd knock out both their Chaos Numbers at once.

[TFMegamanlan]

Watched Zexal for the first time since February, and from what I've just seen, the Barian have gone from being Sailor Moon villains to Doma/Shadow Riders/Dark Signers?

 

Kindof... Earlier they just were more amusing then anything... now with Shark and Rio, they're dangerous....

 

 

ALL HAIL BARIAN!!!!

[heraldry_lord]

The website for NAS (the organization responsible for the anime) has the previews, so they seem to be legit:

 

http://www.nasinc.co.jp/jp/index.php...30&mm_category

http://www.nasinc.co.jp/jp/index.php...31&mm_category

http://www.nasinc.co.jp/jp/index.php...32&mm_category

[evilfusion]

Kaito has been stated by Yuma and other characters to be extremely hard to get in touch with recently. They briefly speculated that it had something to do with Mizael. Likewise, the way Kaito left last episode seems like he feels there's something he has to do before facing the Barians. Him going to Dr. Faker makes sense. He WOULD know something about the Barians, not only due to his contract with them, but because he (along with Byron and Kazuma) found the points enabling them to access the Barian/Astral World

 

The openings and ending have shown Tron repeatedly, and he was referenced numerous times since the Arclight siblings returned. I find it EXTREMELY likely that Tron will return, and I'm confident he'd face off against the Barians. Dr. Faker making a return seems similarly likely, but as to whether Dr. Faker will Duel...not as likely. Dr. Faker wasn't much of a Duelist.

 

Dr. Faker's plan hinged around other people collecting the Numbers, notably Kaito as his main Number Hunter. We don't even know for sure what he intended to do with the Sphere Field before Mr. Heartland suggested the WDC as a lure for Number holders. But the Sphere Field was crucial to his plan at the WDC finals, enabling players to rapidly Summon their Numbers and expand their power, then snatch them away regardless of who won the Duel.

 

After gathering those 48/50 Numbers (did he have 53 and 92 already, or did he get them from the Sphere Field?), he only Dueled Yuma/Kaito/Shark because Orbital knocked out the power for the Sphere Field Cannon, and Astral gave Yuma 2 of the Numbers and freed him from the Sphere Field. He even said as much he was only accepting to wait for the cannon to recharge, and that the Numbers had to be recollected from them. Until that moment, he literally had no intention of Dueling.

 

Tron, on the other hand, actually entered the WDC finals and presumably only lurked in the background until then so Faker wouldn't realize he was alive. Since Tron's sons all will be defeated by Barians, he will almost certainly return to avenge them. Ironically, Tron had originally stated to IV that he only trusted himself and the Barian World, as they had saved him.

[TFMegamanlan]

I'm more worried that both the anime and Manga may end before we get to see the last of the Numbers.... And also that some Numbers may not even get printed....

[~British Soul~]

@TF: I think the manga still has quite a ways to go yet (I'd say at least another 25 chapters or so). I'm sure we'll see all the Numbers eventually.

[TFMegamanlan]

Part of my concern though is that they all won't be printed... I have yet to see anything about Cain's Doom and Abel's Doom being printed at all. That and I'd prefer if all 107 Numbers did show up in the Anime at some point. (I do think they could run for another season after this one to be honest, just filling in the extra missing Numbers.)

[evilfusion]

Part of my concern though is that they all won't be printed... I have yet to see anything about Cain's Doom and Abel's Doom being printed at all. That and I'd prefer if all 107 Numbers did show up in the Anime at some point. (I do think they could run for another season after this one to be honest, just filling in the extra missing Numbers.)

 

They will all be printed.

 

They are collector's items by their very nature, and the plot revolves around them. If they don't print them all, or show them all in the combination of anime and manga, the fans would throw a fit because they will have an eternally incomplete collection of cards that were blatantly designed to be a collection.

 

I noted that while Konami was ambitious to create a plot revolving around 100 cards in an archetype, but as long as the Numbers have not all been revealed, the Zexal series has longevity.

 

Didn't Number 72 take forever to get released relative to its appearance? But it still got released. Also, didn't the Numbers Hunter pack release Numbers that were neither seen in anime or manga? I don't recall ever hearing about Number 49, 63, or 87 in either media (could be wrong). Maybe they'll make another Number Hunter pack that'll contain ones like 13/31, or yet to be TCG released like 42.

[More than 3 characters]

Kaito has been stated by Yuma and other characters to be extremely hard to get in touch with recently. They briefly speculated that it had something to do with Mizael. Likewise, the way Kaito left last episode seems like he feels there's something he has to do before facing the Barians. Him going to Dr. Faker makes sense. He WOULD know something about the Barians, not only due to his contract with them, but because he (along with Byron and Kazuma) found the points enabling them to access the Barian/Astral World
 
The openings and ending have shown Tron repeatedly, and he was referenced numerous times since the Arclight siblings returned. I find it EXTREMELY likely that Tron will return, and I'm confident he'd face off against the Barians. Dr. Faker making a return seems similarly likely, but as to whether Dr. Faker will Duel...not as likely. Dr. Faker wasn't much of a Duelist.
 
Dr. Faker's plan hinged around other people collecting the Numbers, notably Kaito as his main Number Hunter. We don't even know for sure what he intended to do with the Sphere Field before Mr. Heartland suggested the WDC as a lure for Number holders. But the Sphere Field was crucial to his plan at the WDC finals, enabling players to rapidly Summon their Numbers and expand their power, then snatch them away regardless of who won the Duel.
 
After gathering those 48/50 Numbers (did he have 53 and 92 already, or did he get them from the Sphere Field?), he only Dueled Yuma/Kaito/Shark because Orbital knocked out the power for the Sphere Field Cannon, and Astral gave Yuma 2 of the Numbers and freed him from the Sphere Field. He even said as much he was only accepting to wait for the cannon to recharge, and that the Numbers had to be recollected from them. Until that moment, he literally had no intention of Dueling.
 
Tron, on the other hand, actually entered the WDC finals and presumably only lurked in the background until then so Faker wouldn't realize he was alive. Since Tron's sons all will be defeated by Barians, he will almost certainly return to avenge them. Ironically, Tron had originally stated to IV that he only trusted himself and the Barian World, as they had saved him.

I've read that Durbe was the one who was Tron's benefactor in the Barian World (contrasting with Faker who allied with Vector), so maybe Tron will duel him. You know, in a "You betrayed me!" sorta way. The main questions I have about Tron dueling again are A: will Yuma give his Numbers back (I assume he will) and B: will he show Chaos Numbers. We already have C69 thanks to Dark Mist, but there's no C8.

[Aerion Brightflame]

Part of my concern though is that they all won't be printed... I have yet to see anything about Cain's Doom and Abel's Doom being printed at all. That and I'd prefer if all 107 Numbers did show up in the Anime at some point. (I do think they could run for another season after this one to be honest, just filling in the extra missing Numbers.)

 

I'm of the view that if they'd print something as useless as Goldrat, then they'll print them all.

 

Also some of the Numbers have taken ages after being shown to get printed, like Thunder Spark tooks ages iirc.

 

Combine with the fact that due to them being collectors cards, they can make another Number Hunters to try and earn a profit that way, because people will buy them as a collectors thing.

[evilfusion]

I've read that Durbe was the one who was Tron's benefactor in the Barian World (contrasting with Faker who allied with Vector), so maybe Tron will duel him. You know, in a "You betrayed me!" sorta way. The main questions I have about Tron dueling again are A: will Yuma give his Numbers back (I assume he will) and B: will he show Chaos Numbers. We already have C69 thanks to Dark Mist, but there's no C8.

 

It's possible that Durbe is the one who helped Tron, since early Zexal II, Durbe lamented how they gave the humans power and acheived nothing (or something like that), however, when Vector made his appearance among the other Barian lords, Durbe said that Vector used Dr. Faker and Tron to collect the Numbers, and didn't take responsibility for his failure.

 

Tron would almost certainly get Number 8 if he showed up to Duel, but I doubt 69, since not only is the card almost pure evil (and has a Chaos Number already), but it embodied Tron's desire for revenge, which he no longer has towards Faker. And I can envision C8 because the Arclight siblings had Argent Chaos Force and are using those bracelets that scientifically contain Tron's crest power.

[~British Soul~]

Speaking of Numbers, just gonna leave this here:

Number 80: Rhapsody the Madquipped Conqueror

(Rank 4)

 

So Alit will use this against Yuma then. Looks like the Barians had more Numbers than Shark's, IV's and Black Mist's

[evilfusion]

I theorized that some of the Barians might have Astral World Numbers. Vector had Number 66, after all, by unknown means. That was also why I theorized Mizael might have had Number 62 (he apparently doesn't).

 

Also, Don Thousand might have a few Numbers. He gave Vector Numbers 1-4, and either they were fakes originally, or they created fakes to distribute to the Barian assassins. I'm hoping for the latter.

 

No.80 is a Rank 4? I suspect then there will also be a C80 since Alit will be using it and has Rank-Up Magic.

[Jord200]

Number 80.... Rank 4... Konami, I swear to God, if this is a repeat of Number 14, I'll be pissed.

 

 

 

 

Where it stands, we've seen 57 Numbers. We still have 43 to go.

[~British Soul~]

Don't worry Jord, I'm sure Number 80 won't be a repeat of Number 14. That'd be pretty redundant if it was though.

[Jord200]

Don't worry Jord, I'm sure Number 80 won't be a repeat of Number 14. That'd be pretty redundant if it was though.

 

 

 

No, I mean that I made a Number 14 that was a Rank 5, and had a Burn effect. Two days later, Konami makes the real Number 14, which a Rank 5, has a Burn effect, and its ATK and DEF are only 100 points different from mine. If this thing ends up being like the Number 80 I made, I'll be shocked, and annoyed. I'm not saying this because of my Number, I'm saying this because we should take it into account. While it probably is the real Number 80, what if its a fake one? There's a million Fake Numbers. From now on, there is always a very small chance that any new Numbers could be Fake Numbers.

[evilfusion]

That's actually one of the biggest problem with the Don Thousand scheme of making fake Numbers, and then revealing that characters had been using them without anyone knowing they were fake until the last minute: The audience starts questioning the credibility of events.

 

Granted, the fake Number Tokunosuke had was identical to the real No. 10 in almost every way, including effect and stats. Even if Alit's Number 80 is fake, it should be the real effect. But by having the writers make Numbers 1-4 fakes, you're left unsure what the hell is going on.

 

When you, as a writer, create Numbers and portray them as real Numbers, then afterwards reveal they're fake and destroy them...WTF? It leaves us not knowing who has those Numbers now, or if they ever had the real Numbers, or if ANY Numbers from now on are real. Or whether those Numbers will end up in a character's possession. Or whether they'll print the Numbers. You could just as easily use fake Numbers as a plot device by having characters wield fake versions of Numbers Yuma already faced.

 

But that'd be stupid.

 

I really, REALLY want to believe that Vector has the real Numbers 1-4, and that he gave fake Numbers to the assassins because Don Thousand didn't trust them to have the real ones or something, rather than it being the Numbers were always fake and no one has them or something. It'd make more sense from that angle. Vector himself used Number 66. I'd expect that someone that egotistical wouldn't trust underlings with real Astral World Numbers, because the Barians NEED those Numbers. After the failure of Tron and Dr. Faker, I'd be likely to not want to rely on other people using my very real, valuable Numbers.

[~British Soul~]

No, I mean that I made a Number 14 that was a Rank 5, and had a Burn effect. Two days later, Konami makes the real Number 14, which a Rank 5, has a Burn effect, and its ATK and DEF are only 100 points different from mine. If this thing ends up being like the Number 80 I made, I'll be shocked, and annoyed. I'm not saying this because of my Number, I'm saying this because we should take it into account. While it probably is the real Number 80, what if its a fake one? There's a million Fake Numbers. From now on, there is always a very small chance that any new Numbers could be Fake Numbers.

I doubt it'll be like the Number 80 that you made, it was just a coincidence that your Number 14 and the real one were similar. In all seriousness though, this is why I don't like to make Number cards myself, because imo there isn't much point in making my own version of a card that konami will make later.

[Jord200]

I doubt it'll be like the Number 80 that you made, it was just a coincidence that your Number 14 and the real one were similar. In all seriousness though, this is why I don't like to make Number cards myself, because imo there isn't much point in making my own version of a card that konami will make later.

 

 

I suppose you're right. Oh well. Also, didn't one of the Barians say that III, V, Yuma, and Kaito were the ONLY ones left with Numbers? If so, does that mean that the Barians have the 49 Numbers that the four of them don't.....?

[~British Soul~]

I suppose you're right. Oh well. Also, didn't one of the Barians say that III, V, Yuma, and Kaito were the ONLY ones left with Numbers? If so, does that mean that the Barians have the 49 Numbers that the four of them don't.....?

It's possible, especially given the whole million Numbers thing, so it might be possible that Number holders who we didn't know existed had been absorbed into the Barian world and the Barians claiming those Numbers.