Faytl Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 How does the preview confirm that? All it showed was Misael dueling with V and III. Also, EPIC episode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 How does the preview confirm that? All it showed was Misael dueling with V and III. Pay CLOSE attention to what's going on in the ending song. In the ending song, they've been showing small parts of what's going to happen in the next episode since the Sargasso duel ended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 Seeing as Alit and Gilag are gonna be mind-jacked by VecThousand, I think it's gonna spell a personality change for both of them, and I'd be ok with given that the plot is approaching the climax. With IV defeated, it's likely that Nasch claimed his Numbers so the Barians would own at least 7 Astral World Numbers (15, 40, 88, 32, 73, 94 and 65) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 Yeah, there's no chance whatsoever that Nasch did NOT claim the Numbers from IV. After all, the Barians even said they still had to defeat Yuma, Kaito, III, and V. Those are the remaining characters that hold Numbers. God, that episode was awesome. I was not disappointed at all. Just as predicted, IV had Number 88 and used Rank-Up Magic on it. And its effect...from what I gathered, it detaches 1 to deal 4000 damage. And if it has 0 Overlay Units, you win the Duel. Because Destiny Leo wasn't broken enough in the anime. I'm curious how it'll be handled when released. You forgot that Vector has Number 96, too. Nasch has 32, 15, 40, 73, and 88. Merag presumably has 94. Vector has 96 and 65. And Don Thousand mindjacks both of them? I guess it'll make Gilag a more credible threat. Even among the other Barians, he's the least threatening, despite proving to be a competent threat against both Yuma and Shingetsu. He's always been kind of the joke enemy of them. Alit was threatening because he was a skilled, passionate Duelist that enjoyed Dueling against Yuma, which goes to show that you don't have to be malicious to be a deadly opponent. He was noticeably more direct in the Tag Duel. If the Barians aren't just using the Numbers as trophies, Mizael could probably use the Gimmick Puppet Numbers, since he runs a Rank 8 Deck, and is the only one that does. Then again, his theme is being a Dragon master, so he probably won't. I have a hunch that Number C06 will grab a Number from either Graveyard, with the option of Special Summoning it. I bet that's how III and V steal Tachyon Dragon. [spoiler=No. 62 rambling] I wonder who'll have Number 62, though. If it's really Galaxy-Eyes Prime Photon Dragon, then either Kaito already has it, or he produces it from nowhere, or he wins it from someone else. But what I think? I think Mizael has it. And I think it might be related to the Duel with III and V. Mizael is the "Galaxy-Eyes" master, and he has his sights on Kaito's Galaxy-Eyes for yet unclarified reasons. However, Galaxy-Eyes is not a Number, nor an Xyz. Which means, literally, until Kaito had gained Number 46, there was no reason (relative to the Barian agenda) for Mizael to target Kaito, other than pride. However, we still aren't sure on the relationship between Number 107 and Galaxy-Eyes Photon Dragon, and the similarly unclear relationship between Galaxy-Eyes and Number 46. Originally, I said Number 46 might be a pre-form to No. 107, but I later realized that doesn't make sense with what he know. Number 46 is the legendary Number associated with Mizael, so any connection/resonance with Mizael makes sense there. And No. 107 and Photon Dragon can be attributed to them being "Galaxy-Eyes" monsters (I still want to believe that Photon Dragon was cloned from Tachyon Dragon). The Yugioh wiki says that Astral noted Photon Dragon has a light similar to the Astral World, meaning that Galaxy-Eyes Photon Dragon might have originated there, which means that No. 107 is the Barian World counterpart. But that doesn't quite seem fitting. The reveal that there's another Galaxy-Eyes monster that's also a Number (and a Photon) makes me wonder just what the relationship is now. My hunch is that Mizael has it because it's a Galaxy-Eyes monster, but also it's among the 60 series. [/spoiler] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 Isn't there another possibility about 62: That it's simply going to be a relivant card at the start of a new series of ZeXal. I mean, that feels more thematic about things to me than the cover card after Nasch's Boss being something fairly random. Also Photon Prime Dragon makes it sound like the origin of Galaxy Eyes. We know that Faker made Kaito's deck from science: It's possible he captured the energy of 62 or made GEPD in it's image. It also gives a logic behind Faker returning at some point if he's going to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 Just adding my two cents here, I get some kind of feeling that 62 may actually be a DARK monster, though I'm probably wrong. But, I'm pretty sure that 62 is the monster looming over Kaito in the opening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 You forgot that Vector has Number 96, too. Nasch has 32, 15, 40, 73, and 88. Merag presumably has 94. Vector has 96 and 65. I didn't forget, it's just we don't know what has happened to Number 96 at this point (We only know about 65 from the opening), and i did say "at least" so I didn't rule out the possiblity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 Probably, Dem. After all, last opening showed Kaito and a Dragon silhouette which turned out to be No. 46. My question though is still how Kaito gets it. Either he gets it from someone, which makes me feel like him facing Jinlong for Number 46 was almost pointless unless 46 is important to his Mizael rivalry, if they're just going to give him another Number that serves an anti-Mizael purpose, or he somehow makes it himself, which...seems equally pointless. True, I expect Prime Photon to be a previous form rather than an evolution, but Prime still could mean a superior form. Also, the fact C107 isn't the cover card of the next pack makes me REALLY wonder when we'll see its effect and release. Another Zexal series is possible, but we're actually running out of Numbers to reveal, and Xyz have evolved to almost absurd lengths now with Rank-Up Magic and all the Chaos Numbers. Plus, where would the plot really go from the Barian war? The first series had 3 "seasons". Season 1 was more or less a plot introduction, with the first Numbers appearing and a few Duels to get them, usually from Yuma confronting a wrongdoer under its influence. Then they introduced Kaito as the Numbers Hunter and primary rival for the Numbers hunt. They set up the WDC at the same time, and the season ends after Yuma and Astral unlock Zexal, keeping their Numbers safe from Kaito in that battle. Season 2 is the WDC, with Yuma qualifying for the finals, introducing the Tron family as the secondary antagonists (Dr. Faker is the primary, but Yuma is not aware of him at this time), and the primary active antagonists, with them wanting the Numbers for revenge against Dr. Faker. Along the way, Yuma collects a few more Numbers and becomes involved with Kaito's brother, which is his primary motivation for Numbers hunting, as established in Season 1. The Tron family plot involving Haruto prompts a tag Duel between III/IV and Kaito/Yuma, unlocking Neo Galaxy-Eyes. III's feelings about Yuma prompts him to challenge him to another Duel, killing and reviving Astral, and taking III out of commission. Season 3 is the WDC finals, which ties up the ends of IV and Shark's rivalry, V and Kaito's history, Tron's backstory and the family's relationship and motivations against Dr. Faker. After the final match between Tron and Yuma, Dr. Faker steals all the Numbers, and Yuma/Shark/Kaito challenge him to a climactic Duel, finally revealing the masterminds behind it all was a Barian. After the Duel, Yuma rematches Kaito and loses. Season 4 (Zexal 2 season 1) is...a plot intro season again, introducing the Barian lords and the concept of Rank-Up Magic, followed by the reveal of Over-Hundred Numbers held by the Barians, unlocking a new evolution of Utopia using Rank-Up Magic, and ending the season after Vector's defeat and the new evolution of Zexal and Utopia. Season 5 is the Legendary Numbers war, which ended a few episodes ago with Shark reawakening as Nasch, lots of backstory stuff, Astral nearly dying but being returned, etc. This season is now the Barians going all-out on Yuma and co. I didn't forget, it's just we don't know what has happened to Number 96 at this point (We only know about 65 from the opening), and i did say "at least" so I didn't rule out the possiblity. It was very explicitly said, though. Don Thousand had Vector go to the Barian palace, where they found Number 96's power. Don Thousand explicitly said Astral was unable to absorb Number 96, so the power returned to him (because No. 96 is part of Don Thousand). He then had Vector absorb Number 96. Number 96 had Number 65. if Vector has 65 now, you can bet he has 96, too. Astral had been unable to absorb 96. It had been unclear what happened to 65, whether it had remained with 96, or if Astral had gained it. The opening all but confirms the former. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More than 3 characters Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 I was wondering why it's numbrered 62, which seems kinda random. Then I realized this after playing around with the numbers a bit: If you add together 62+46 (Draggluon the Ethereal Dragon) it equals 108, which is a sacred number in Japanese Buddhism, and thus crops up quite often in Japanese media. It's also symbolic in that it is exactly one greater than 107, Tachyon Dragon's number.There's relationships like this with many of the Legendary Number/Over-Hundred Number pairs, where the numbers are involved in a calculation and it returns something signifigant.(102 (Glorious Halo)+ 44 (Sky Pegasus))/2 = 73 (Abyss Splash), hinting at the connection between Durbe and Shark.104 (Masquerade)- 65 (Judge Buster) = 39 (Utopia), telling about the opposition between Yuma and Vector and possibly playing at the Rei Shingetsu plot.There's also one with Faker's Numbers:92 (Heart-eartH Dragon)- 53 (Heart-eartH) = 39 (Utopia), signifying the opposition between Yuma and Faker, and Faker was also controlled by Vector.There's also some which I'm not entirely sure about whether they're signifigant:(107 (Tachyon Dragon, first Over-Hundred Number seen)+ 46 (Draggluon))/9 = 17 (Leviathan Dragon, first ever Number seen)101 (Ark Knight)- 32 (Shark Drake, Tron used it to control Shark) = 69 (Heraldry Crest, Tron's ace) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 Those are actually pretty interesting calculations. Speculation, but kind of cool to see. No. 107 + 46 /9 = 17 is a huge stretch (why divide by 9? There's no significance with the 9). You could just as easily look at 107, remove the 0, and get 17. 107 = first Over-Hundred revealed. 17 = first Astral Number seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 It was very explicitly said, though. Don Thousand had Vector go to the Barian palace, where they found Number 96's power. Don Thousand explicitly said Astral was unable to absorb Number 96, so the power returned to him (because No. 96 is part of Don Thousand). He then had Vector absorb Number 96. Number 96 had Number 65. if Vector has 65 now, you can bet he has 96, too. Astral had been unable to absorb 96. It had been unclear what happened to 65, whether it had remained with 96, or if Astral had gained it. The opening all but confirms the former. In my defence, I hadn't watched the subs for those episodes (I'm assuming they exist now), so I wouldn't have known that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 In my defence, I hadn't watched the subs for those episodes (I'm assuming they exist now), so I wouldn't have known that. Ah, my apologies. I've used Dailymotion for subs. Last I checked, they have subs up to (but not including) Utopia Roots' debut. So you're behind like...8-9 episodes or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 Ah, my apologies. I've used Dailymotion for subs. Last I checked, they have subs up to (but not including) Utopia Roots' debut. So you're behind like...8-9 episodes or so. Yeah, I'm gonna have to find time to catch up, because of IRL stuffs with me working and all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFMegamanlan Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 The subbed episodes are currently up to where Yuma and Astral are heading back. The next episode is starting the duel between Heartland and Kaito. I really can't wait for that ep to be subbed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 This very well may be why 62 is numbered 62. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 So...62 is 39 upside down and mirrored in Number text? Looking at that image and trying to flip the upright 39 into that position hurts my eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 It's actually just 39 upside-down, in Number text. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 Eyes...hurt... I see it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted October 22, 2013 Report Share Posted October 22, 2013 I think this is the outline for C6, since the top part matches what we see of C6 in the preview. His arms and hands are now ginormous, and he has tentacle-looking appendages now too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted October 22, 2013 Report Share Posted October 22, 2013 Probably. It does look vaguely like Atlanthal, which was freakishly huge already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted October 22, 2013 Report Share Posted October 22, 2013 Alanthal looks like a giant Relinquished, which is freaking awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted October 22, 2013 Report Share Posted October 22, 2013 New previews appeared: [quote] 暗躍の影 バリアンの観測者・アルコ現る 第130話 放送日：2013.11.17 アリトとの熱戦が繰り広げられるなか、遊馬とアストラルはアリトの背後で糸を引くドン・サウンザンドの力に気づいた。 ドン・サウンザンドからアリトを取り戻すべく、遊馬たちは必死の策に出た。 一方、バリアン世界の情報を手に入れるため、Dr.フェイカーの元へと急いだカイトは、アルコと名乗る少年に出会った。 七皇とは独立した存在・バリアンの観測者と自称する彼は、カイトにある取引を申し出た。果たしてその目的とは…!? 脚本家：吉田 伸 演出：中川 航 コンテ：須永 司 作画監督：三浦菜奈 Episode 130 暗 躍の影 バリアンの観測者・アルコ現る An'yaku no Kage: Barian no Kansokusha Aruko Genru (The Hidden Mastermind's Shadows: Alco the Barian Observer Appears) Airdate: November 17th, 2013 As the heated battle with Alito rages on, Yuma and Astral realize that it's Don Thousand's power that's been pulling Alito's strings from behind the scenes. In order to get Alito back from Don Thousand's grasp, Yuma and Yuma and co. give everything they've got. Meanwhile, Kaito rushes to Dr. Faker to learn more about the Barian World, but on the way, he meets a strange young boy named Alco. Alco, who calls himself the Barian Observer, a being who exists separately from the Seven Emperors, offers Kaito a deal. But what is Alco's real goal...? Episode Writer: Yoshida, Shin 雌雄を決する時！銀河大激突、フォトン・ドラゴンVSタキオン・ドラゴン!! 第131話 放送日：2013.11.24 アルコから対七皇用の切り札「ザ・クローズド・エイト」を渡されたカイトは、そのカードを届くべく、遊馬の元へと急いだ。 しかしその前に、宿敵ミザエルが立ちはだかった。行く手を阻むミザエルを倒すため、そして真のギャラクシーアイズ使いを今度こそ決めるため、カイトとミザエルのデュエルが始まった。 しかし、序盤からギャラクシーアイズ同士でぶつかり合うカイトを、思わぬ罠が待ち受けていた…!! 脚本家：雑破 業演出：羽原久美子コンテ：須永 司作画監督：牧内ももこ Episode 131 雌 雄を決する時！銀河大激突、フォトン・ドラゴンVSタキオン・ドラゴン!! Shiyuu wo Kessuru Toki! Garakushii Aizu Dai Gekitotsu, Foton Doragon Baasasu Takion Doragon!! (The Final Showdown! Galaxy-Eyes Collision, Photon Dragon VS Tachyon Dragon!!) Airdate: November 24th, 2013 Having gotten the ultimate trump card to use against the Seven Emperors, "The Closed Eight", from Alco, Kaito hurries to reach Yuma and deliver the card to him. However, before he can, his archnemesis, Mizael, blocks his way! In order to beat Mizael who blocks his way and to finally determine who is the *real* Galaxy-Eyes Tamer, Kaito and Mizael begin their Duel. But but what lies in wait as the two Galaxy-Eyes begin their clash, is trap for Kaito that no one could of expected...!! Episode Writer: Zappa Gou 銀河の咆哮！銀河眼の光子竜皇、爆誕!! 第132話 放送日：2013.12.01 ミザエルと「超銀河眼の時空龍」の猛攻で苦戦を強いられるカイトは、なすすべもなくただ防戦一方の戦略を取るしかなかった。 なおも続くミザエルの攻撃に、ついには手札もフィールドもゼロという絶体絶命な状況に置かされることになったカイト。 そんな時、最後のドローにすべてを託す決意をしたカイトに呼応するかのように、カイトのデッキは光を放ちだした…!! 脚本家：雑破 業 演出：山本隆太 コンテ：桑i 智 作画監督：原 憲一 Episode 132 銀 河の咆哮！銀河眼の光子竜皇、爆誕!! Ginga no Houkou! Garakushii Aizu Puraimu Foton Doragon, Bakutan!! (The Galaxy's Roar! Arise, Galaxy-Eyes Prime Photon Dragon!!) Airdate: December 1st, 2013 Faced with an uphill battle against the onslaught of Mizael and his "Neo Galaxy-Eyes Tachyon Dragon", Kaito finds himself at his wit's end, forced to do everything to protect himself. But due to Mizael's attack, Kaito finds himself with no cards on the field or in his hand. At that moment, as if responding to Kaito's determination to put everything into this one last draw, his Deck begins to glow...!! [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted October 22, 2013 Report Share Posted October 22, 2013 Ahh, I heard about this Alco kid earlier. It seems... rather strange, introducing a new character this late in. This "Closed Eight" is probably another RUM, though that still leaves the question of "What's Numeron Fall's significance?" That, and Kaito's turning on his card creating powers from Episode 43 again, to get 62. Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted October 22, 2013 Report Share Posted October 22, 2013 Ok, so suddenly there's evidence for a Vector vs. Faker & Tron showdown. In that Faker's finally been mentioned this series. I'm not actually trusting these previews though, not after the last batch that introduced a new character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted October 22, 2013 Report Share Posted October 22, 2013 Yeah, from what I've heard, there's no true confirmation for these yet, though it IS possible that these are legit. Although, thinking about it now, why wouldn't Kaito have gone to Faker before for intel on the Barian World? To do it now seems really sudden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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