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...what's its effect? I have to know. I HAVE TO KNOW.

4 Level 5 monsters.
{Cannot be destroyed by battle except with "Number" monsters} If this card is Xyz Summoned by Rank Up "Number 69: Heraldry Crest", it gains these effects: - Once per turn: You can target 1 monster your opponent controls, then detach 1 Xyz Material from this card; this card gains ATK equal to that monster's ATK and gains that monster's effect. - When your opponent's monster declares an attack: You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card; destroy all cards your opponent controls.
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4 Level 5 monsters.
{Cannot be destroyed by battle except with "Number" monsters} If this card is Xyz Summoned by Rank Up "Number 69: Heraldry Crest", it gains these effects: - Once per turn: You can target 1 monster your opponent controls, then detach 1 Xyz Material from this card; this card gains ATK equal to that monster's ATK and gains that monster's effect. - When your opponent's monster declares an attack: You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card; destroy all cards your opponent controls.

That's quite the powerful effect... I wonder how it'll look upon official release?

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I could see that too. Interesting how it has nothing to do with its original effect-stealing ability.

It does have an effect stealing ability. It gains the effect and the ATK of that monster.

 

Also:

ZEXAL_Episode_110.png

 

There's Number C92. Like Number 92 before it, we won't know its effect(s) until next episode.

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92 was one of the strongest Numbers. I don't want to know what his chaos version can do.

And it's confirmed that Vector isn't dueling in this episode.

I think we already implied that the wikia preview was BS.

 

EDIT here's the RAW: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x11ehao_zero-raws-yu-gi-oh-zexal-ii-110-tx-1280x720-x264-aac_fun?search_algo=2#.UdBBmdjgbNO

I don't care if you posted it first heraldry_lord, but I'm gonna deliberately edit this post with the RAW so it looks like I got there first, haha.

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Props to you heraldry_lord for you first +like being from a mod, specifically Black, props to you indeed.

 

That aside, it appears we'll see good ol' Utopia Ray in the next episode. (Not that I objected to the other Utopia evos though).

 

Depening on how much longer the duel goes on, I expect Black Mist to take Gemone Heriter and Heart Earth too.

I don't think that'll happen though (It'd be interesting though if Black Mist did take them, but I'm expecting it to happen), besides the duel will conclude in the next episode anyway.

 

Also I remember when duels lasted for about 5 episodes, those were the days.

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OHMYGOD! Could this Duel be anymore FREAKING AWESOME?! I'm typing the rest in spoilers just because.

 

[spoiler=YES]

 

Seriously, first Black Mist brings out C96 on his first turn. So awesome. Yuma counters with Hope Ray Victory on HIS first turn, but it's countered by a Trap. Awesome.

 

Black Mist plays that Field Spell, and steals a random Number from Yuma's Extra Deck. The moment he turned the card around, and I read "No. 69", I flip out from joy. I'm SO glad you guys called it that Coat of Arms would return and get a Chaos form. One reason I was skeptical originally was because the monster looking like Coat of Arms was on the opposite side of the Field and I wasn't sure how that would happen. Now I know...and it was AWESOME.

 

I also like how Kaito acknowledged that Coat of Arms was Tron's ace monster. This is actually further significant because Shark is present. Shark never SAW Coat of Arms. His Duel with Yuma was before the Duel with Kaito vs Tron, and he was in the hospital or whatever during the finals.

 

Then Black Mist Summons C69, which is badass looking. It seems like a DOWNGRADE compared to anime Coat of Arms, but it's actually not. Coat of Arms' weakness is its low ATK and if it doesn't have Overlay Units, it can't even use the anime "nuke a card" effect. But having a sweet 4000 ATK makes even the logical nerf when released justified, as its anime effect isn't that broken. It steals an effect and the ATK of one monster, really.

 

Next turn, Black Mist uses the effect of his Field again, and I'm on-edge, wondering what monster he'll grab. He turns the card around, and I read "No. 92" and see the picture. My god, I nearly died with sheer shock. Those are both like my favorite Numbers. Then out comes C92...

 

Random trivia: Number C92 is the FIRST Rank 10 Number/CNumber.

 

[/spoiler]

 

This episode DEFINES why I don't log into YCM until after watching the episode. There's almost always a TCG topic showcasing one of the anime cards, and I usually want to mentally guess what the Number of any Numbers played are, or the topics have a spoiler. I'm betting there's a TCG topic mentioning C69/C92, which would have spoiled how AWESOME the "reveals" were.

 

Also, this episode gave a lot of support to my "Number 96 becomes Don Thousand" theory. Number 96 still looks incredibly like Don Thousand, and he's developing a god complex. Don Thousand is the Barian god. Number 96 also seems to want to acquire Astral's power(?) and something about Overlaying. Don Thousand and Astral in flashbacks do a Zexal Overlay.

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Well, I noted the Rank 10 thing because a while ago, I noticed that of all the anime Xyz, there hadn't yet been any Rank 10 Numbers (The only Rank 11 is a CXyz, and no Rank 12s exist yet), but there are Numbers for 1-9. So Ranking up Number 92 satisfies that condition, technically.

 

Also, we may as well assume the anime doesn't have an Extra Deck limit (or that Yuma, via Astral/Emperor's Key is unaffected by one). Because otherwise, while I could believe Yuma had the Rank 4 Coat of Arms in a 15 card Extra Deck, the Rank 9 Heart-eartH is a "no way in hell" example.

 

Preview for next episode seems to show that Astral takes over the Duel for Yuma. I have the strangest hunch that Astral will lose, and that he took over the Duel himself to spare Yuma from the consequences of the Duel. Because at the rate this Duel is going, I can only see the Duel getting worse for them with each turn, and future previews do indicate that Astral disappears somehow.

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Also, we may as well assume the anime doesn't have an Extra Deck limit (or that Yuma, via Astral/Emperor's Key is unaffected by one). Because otherwise, while I could believe Yuma had the Rank 4 Coat of Arms in a 15 card Extra Deck, the Rank 9 Heart-eartH is a "no way in hell" example.

 

Well actually Yuma's deck is capable of bringing out Number 53, which can then bring out Number 92.  It's true that it's weird that he has these in his Extra Deck at all though.

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I just had a crazy theory. Let's review something quick.

17: First Number revealed, and Shark's original Number.
33/6: III's Numbers.
44: First Legendary Number, spirit of Durbe's former partner, relation to the plot.
54: Relation to the plot, Alit.
64: Relation to the plot, Gilag.


These are the Numbers that Yuma has that stand out among the others, and are not Hope or the ace of a Big Bad. What if Yuma were to get some crazy card that lets him do what Chaos Field does, only with his Numbers? If that were to happen, I could easily see him summoning and upgrading the Numbers I mentioned.

Black Mist will probably try to take Yuma's Numbers, should Astral lose. We know he fails somehow, because he know Yuma uses Atlanthal later on.


On a side note, anyone got an episode link?

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What if Astral losing, assuming he does causes the Numbers to scatter again?

 

I mean, not all of them, but just some of them. Or at least make it so the Tron Family can get there's back.

 

I do wonder if the family will get new Bosses. Since, Dyson and IV's ones aren't really suited for the roles they'd play I feel.

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Causing already collected Numbers to scatter would be a transparent attempt to prolong the plot.

 

Maybe only Astral disappears. Number 96 seems to be after the Legendary Numbers or Astral himself, and gaining these Numbers and Chaos forms so far has just been to increase his own power greatly. There's probably a plot-critical reason why Astral takes over the Duel for Yuma from what you can see in the preview. In all likelihood, if Astral loses, and I genuinely think he will, then most of the Numbers are left with Yuma. Shark and Kaito each have a Legendary Number(s), so Black Mist won't have all of them if he wins.

 

Another reason I think Astral takes over the Duel to spare Yuma is because Black Mist has been emphasizing that Astral's attachment to Yuma is a weakness. During the Duel with the giant and Unformed Void, Black Mist mused on what would happen to Yuma if Astral lost the Duel, forcing Astral's hand in freeing Number 96. In the Duel at Number 65's ruins, Black Mist and Vector arranged a trap that would put Yuma in danger if Astral inflicted damage, forcing Astral to tone down his plays. And now...I could see Astral taking over to spare Yuma, but having an extra bonus of Yuma maintaining possession of most of the Numbers.

 

And if Number 96 is after the Legendary Numbers, which hold Don Thousand's power...more fuel to my theory.

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Number 96 (But now we can call him number C96) is a clown. He said to be a god. A god would destroy Yuma and Co in a second, and after would took possesion of Astral's body! and what he made? Challenge them to a duel. And after offered to all a tea, apologizes and give to Yuma is Numbers? 

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