tazeel3 Posted June 2, 2013 Report Share Posted June 2, 2013 I hate those dragon. But Kite will not take control of C107. "I'ts a thing that only COWARD make" C107 is one of the simbol of they're rivality. Is like Shark that take control of 102. Fell dragon, we meet again... i've hurted you with my words like you have hurted my second personality, true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted June 2, 2013 Report Share Posted June 2, 2013 Haruto's power was evidently Barian in origin, and it seems to have been purged from him. I'm more confused about where Dr. Faker is than where Haruto is.That's actually a good point. What happened to Faker the last time we saw him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted June 2, 2013 Report Share Posted June 2, 2013 Well, Haruto has made cameo appearances, but his only plot relevence at first was that he was ill, thus serving as Kaito's motivation to be a Number Hunter. Dr. Faker was also using Haruto's power to attack the Astral World. Then Tron steals that power, with the last of it creating Neo Galaxy-Eyes. Haruto's power was evidently Barian in origin, and it seems to have been purged from him. I'm more confused about where Dr. Faker is than where Haruto is. Haruto's plot relevence is now minimal because he's no longer sickly in the same way, and he doesn't seem to have his Barian-granted powers, so he's recovering and Kaito no longer needs to Number hunt. I'd still like an explanation of his powers though, mostly where they came from. Because I can imagine it being another far reaching plot of Vectors. If Faker doesn't reappear, then this is kinda disappointing... I get the feeling they are building towards Kazuma, Tron and Faker all meeting at some point and doing something... No idea what though. Since Tron will make a reappearance if III does, and Faker should if Heartland did because he was a more important character than Heartland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted June 2, 2013 Report Share Posted June 2, 2013 That's actually a good point. What happened to Faker the last time we saw him? He was watching the Yuma vs Kaito rematch with Haruto, looking depressively remorseful. He's only been referenced ever since by Droite and Vector. But what is he up to? Is he actually taking care of Haruto and Kaito visits regularly (or Haruto visits him), or is he off doing mad scientist good scientist stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazeel3 Posted June 2, 2013 Report Share Posted June 2, 2013 Faker was cutted similar to Kite dolor. they don't need him more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted June 2, 2013 Report Share Posted June 2, 2013 But what is he up to? Is he actually taking care of Haruto and Kaito visits regularly (or Haruto visits him), or is he off doing mad scientist good scientist stuff?It would be wonderful to have, even briefly, some establishing thing showing that the Tenjos are a happy family again, trying to move on, though Kaito has involved himself in the recent fight to stop the ones who caused him and his family so much sorrow and pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted June 2, 2013 Report Share Posted June 2, 2013 He was watching the Yuma vs Kaito rematch with Haruto, looking depressively remorseful. He's only been referenced ever since by Droite and Vector. But what is he up to? Is he actually taking care of Haruto and Kaito visits regularly (or Haruto visits him), or is he off doing mad scientist good scientist stuff? Wait, Droite referenced him? I think that means he will be back then. Since they wouldn't mention something twice in the series it they weren't going to feature it, even briefly. I think he might be trying to find Kazuma, or trying to restore Tron. To make ammends. I have no evidence for that though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazeel3 Posted June 2, 2013 Report Share Posted June 2, 2013 Faker was cutted. We never see him in a important posicion again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted June 2, 2013 Report Share Posted June 2, 2013 Hm, well the recent story arc definitely focuses on the Barians and their fights and past, which is definitely more consistent than the previous Zexal I arcs, which tended to be spontaneous in their execution, due to how tournament arcs sort of work. So in that sense, the story lately is much better because each episode and Duel tends to be more relevant to the plot as a whole than just "Need to Duel guy G to be able to Duel guy S and then beat him to face guy T in the finals and get all the Numbers. Yay!" Some characters and things will be put off the side to focus on the current plot, but if there is no resolution to the dangling plot ends, the show itself suffers. It's like what 5Ds did with the Dark Signers. Demak had no backstory. At all. Literally. And only Kiryu got a real conclusion in later arcs, whereas Carly remained an unrequited love interest (somehow), Misty was never seen again. Bommer had an essential cameo. Rex and Rudger actually died. Wait, Droite referenced him? I think that means he will be back then. Since they wouldn't mention something twice in the series it they weren't going to feature it, even briefly. I think he might be trying to find Kazuma, or trying to restore Tron. To make ammends. I have no evidence for that though. I think when Alit referred to himself as a Barian, she referenced his name, having thought the Barians had been destroyed. I might have mistaken that part. But Vector definitely referenced him in the form of "I'm the one who possessed him". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted June 2, 2013 Report Share Posted June 2, 2013 Hm, well the recent story arc definitely focuses on the Barians and their fights and past, which is definitely more consistent than the previous Zexal I arcs, which tended to be spontaneous in their execution, due to how tournament arcs sort of work. So in that sense, the story lately is much better because each episode and Duel tends to be more relevant to the plot as a whole than just "Need to Duel guy G to be able to Duel guy S and then beat him to face guy T in the finals and get all the Numbers. Yay!" Some characters and things will be put off the side to focus on the current plot, but if there is no resolution to the dangling plot ends, the show itself suffers. It's like what 5Ds did with the Dark Signers. Demak had no backstory. At all. Literally. And only Kiryu got a real conclusion in later arcs, whereas Carly remained an unrequited love interest (somehow), Misty was never seen again. Bommer had an essential cameo. Rex and Rudger actually died.Yeah, 5D's after the Dark Signer arc got kinda bad, and they did make some mistakes with the execution, such as FORGETTING TO GIVE A BAD GUY A BACKGROUND!!!But ZEXAL II has gotten really good, and the turning point for me was the twist they pulled with Rei, completely forgiving the previous "filler" episodes, as they were needed to build the Rei-Yuma relationship up so it could then get knocked down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted June 2, 2013 Report Share Posted June 2, 2013 Yeah, 5D's after the Dark Signer arc got kinda bad, and they did make some mistakes with the execution, such as FORGETTING TO GIVE A BAD GUY A BACKGROUND!!! But ZEXAL II has gotten really good, and the turning point for me was the twist they pulled with Rei, completely forgiving the previous "filler" episodes, as they were needed to build the Rei-Yuma relationship up so it could then get knocked down. If it hadn't been for JUMP, that would've been the best plot twist in the entire show I think. I mean I do think that Vector is the best villian the anime has ever had in terms of character, and depth to it. Even though he's a Sadistic Psycopath, he still has a lot more to him than normal villians do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted June 2, 2013 Report Share Posted June 2, 2013 If it hadn't been for JUMP, that would've been the best plot twist in the entire show I think. I mean I do think that Vector is the best villian the anime has ever had in terms of character, and depth to it. Even though he's a Sadistic Psycopath, he still has a lot more to him than normal villians do. But it was an obvious plot twist from the start. I mean, the moment Vector played an Umbral the deal was sealed, considering Umbral means Shadow, which is the opposite of Lumis, meaning Light or Shining. I mean, it was either that or hurrdurr long lost brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted June 2, 2013 Report Share Posted June 2, 2013 If it hadn't been for JUMP, that would've been the best plot twist in the entire show I think. I mean I do think that Vector is the best villian the anime has ever had in terms of character, and depth to it. Even though he's a Sadistic Psycopath, he still has a lot more to him than normal villians do.He's also the simplest villain the entire franchise has ever had.No daddy issues.No unrequited love from a past life.No ancient evil embodiments.No time-travel shenanigans.He is just pure, unadulterated maliciousness, without a single hint of pathos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted June 2, 2013 Report Share Posted June 2, 2013 Yeah, 5D's after the Dark Signer arc got kinda bad, and they did make some mistakes with the execution, such as FORGETTING TO GIVE A BAD GUY A BACKGROUND!!! But ZEXAL II has gotten really good, and the turning point for me was the twist they pulled with Rei, completely forgiving the previous "filler" episodes, as they were needed to build the Rei-Yuma relationship up so it could then get knocked down. It was funny to me. When Rei was introduced, I was like "*sigh, another Jaden/Jesse, or Yusei/Bruno dynamic where a new male character is introduced second season and they hit it off absurdly well and become best friends, forsaking half your previous friendships and no one is the least bit annoyed." And then he proved himself to be somewhat annoying, but likeable. Then he started showing strange behaviors, like watching Duels secretly and being suspicious of things, but never acting on them. Then the Gilag tag Duel happened and he revealed he's a good Barian. Wow, major plot twist and a good one that was also badass. Continues like this for a few episodes, then Vector appears and clearly has some sort of personal relationship or vendetta with Shingetsu. Episode ends with him getting kidnapped. Awesome! Then Vector leads Yuma to a Duel with Rei seemingly dead or hurt. Yuma gets super pissed for once when he Duels. Yay! Long-awaited character development! Then the reveal...so shocking, so ironically beautiful, so epicly delivered...BEST MOMENT EVER. Vector became my favorite Barian just to how utterly cruel and fun to watch it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted June 2, 2013 Report Share Posted June 2, 2013 Then the reveal...so shocking, so ironically beautiful, so epicly delivered...BEST MOMENT EVER. Vector became my favorite Barian just to how utterly cruel and fun to watch it was. I'm actually shocked at how well the reveal was done, even after it was blatant and even outright SPOILED to anyone with even half a brain. I mean, that was god tier trolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted June 2, 2013 Report Share Posted June 2, 2013 But it was an obvious plot twist from the start. I mean, the moment Vector played an Umbral the deal was sealed, considering Umbral means Shadow, which is the opposite of Lumis, meaning Light or Shining. I mean, it was either that or hurrdurr long lost brother. Considering Shingetsu was a Barian, and the fondness of having brothers fight each other, this wouldn't have been unthinkable. But what we got was significantly better. Maybe it really was because of the enormous amount of buildup involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted June 2, 2013 Report Share Posted June 2, 2013 I'm actually shocked at how well the reveal was done, even after it was blatant and even outright SPOILED to anyone with even half a brain. I mean, that was god tier trolling.It proves that, even with ZEXAL being different than the previous Yu-Gi-Oh! serieses by being for a younger audience, the writers can still make an incredible plot.Have I taken back any terrible thing I have said about the ZEXAL II writers and plot? I think I did, and if not, I probably should.Except for Episode 81. They wasted Kotori dueling and getting brainwashed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted June 2, 2013 Report Share Posted June 2, 2013 I'm actually shocked at how well the reveal was done, even after it was blatant and even outright SPOILED to anyone with even half a brain. I mean, that was god tier trolling. Agreed. And retrospectively, it means that Vector was pretending to be a bumbling nice guy human for an extremely long time. It also meant he was watching the other Barians and deliberately doing nothing about it. For the audience, this added credibility to the idea that he was a good guy Barian trying to stop the Barian lords. When Vector wants to troll, by god, he's good at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted June 2, 2013 Report Share Posted June 2, 2013 It also shows that's he's kinda smart for a villain as well. Given that by himself, he managed to set up a way to put all 3 of his most hated opponents into a situation they were at a disadvantage, cripple Yuma's deck, break his and Astral's trust and hence remove ZeXal, the greatest weapon Yuma actually had, and only make one idiotic duel decision in the process. Oh, and he managed to get the best Troll face in history, and the creepiest face smile of any psychopath in the show. Which when you factor in someone like Marik. And non of it felt convoluted surprisingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted June 2, 2013 Report Share Posted June 2, 2013 He's also the simplest villain the entire franchise has ever had.No daddy issues.No unrequited love from a past life.No ancient evil embodiments.No time-travel shenanigans.He is just pure, unadulterated maliciousness, without a single hint of pathos.It also shows that's he's kinda smart for a villain as well.Given that by himself, he managed to set up a way to put all 3 of his most hated opponents into a situation they were at a disadvantage, cripple Yuma's deck, break his and Astral's trust and hence remove ZeXal, the greatest weapon Yuma actually had, and only make one idiotic duel decision in the process.Oh, and he managed to get the best Troll face in history, and the creepiest face smile of any psychopath in the show. Which when you factor in someone like Marik.And non of it felt convoluted surprisingly.I rest my case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted June 2, 2013 Report Share Posted June 2, 2013 Vector's face is alarmingly expressive. I sometimes don't notice he doesn't actually have a mouth. None of the Barians do, but that just makes Vector more impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted June 2, 2013 Report Share Posted June 2, 2013 How has no one else mentioned that in the RAW at the end Don Thousand and Astral in the flashback appeared to undergo ZeXal? O.o Jinlongs speech at the end sounds kinda really important, and I can't even understand it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted June 2, 2013 Report Share Posted June 2, 2013 How has no one else mentioned that in the RAW at the end Don Thousand and Astral in the flashback appeared to undergo ZeXal? O.o Jinlongs speech at the end sounds kinda really important, and I can't even understand it.Didn't evilfusion mention that the sub was up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted June 2, 2013 Report Share Posted June 2, 2013 The sub for episode 32 is up. Today's episode is 33 and still raw. Yes, you saw the flashback right. It was seen previously, too, and I did mention it in my enormous "Don Thousand may be Number 96" theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazeel3 Posted June 3, 2013 Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 Don thousand=Number 96?naaaaaaaaaaaa. But i'm suspicious when i see Astral and Don thousand that make Zexal. Probably they make an alliance for defeat somethig that was more terrible than they. From talk about Vector, between me and he there is a rapport of hate/love. I hate him when he see Yuma, he became psycophatic and unsoppartable. But when he don't see Yuma..... is a pure genius! I'm secure that no one in the anime will never create plan's that are more complicated and brillant of him. The zexal creator's must "converted the unnamed" (Italian mode of speech to say "they must make an impossible situation to save the character") because if they didn't invented Zexal II, Yuma and the other would die. Vector have putted all in a trap without exit, and Yuma was in the impossibility to act. And he was the only villian in the anime to completly switch off the main character power! But in psichopatyc modality, he continue to have a way of speaking.... in episode 96 he had every time the just word to inflict to Yuma more possible sufference. Is the only that Yuma really hate whit all his heart. He didn't make what Yusei have made with Z-ONE, he hate Vector too much. And that is proved how he watch him at the end of their duel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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