Jord200 Posted May 21, 2013 Report Share Posted May 21, 2013 Just watched the episode. Something tells me we haven't seen the last of Number 54: Lionheart, if you know what I mean. I fear we probably won't see Gauche and Droite again. Maybe once, but I think their part is over sadly.... Another unfortunate thing is out of the 53 Numbers Yuma has in the anime, the only ones I can ever see him likely using besides Hope woul be.... Atlanthal ( he does provided the spoilers are true ) Machu Mach Lionheart Revise Master Key Beetle ( against Vector just for laughs since Vector willingly gave them the card ) Lucky Stripe ( ONLY if Charlie ever returns, which I doubt he will at this point ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted May 21, 2013 Report Share Posted May 21, 2013 Just watched the episode. Something tells me we haven't seen the last of Number 54: Lion Heart, if you know what I mean. I fear we probably won't see Gauche and Droite again. Maybe once, but I think their part is over sadly. Another unfortunate thing is out of the 53 Numbers Yuma has in the anime, the only ones I can ever see him likely using besides Hope would be.... Atlanthal (he does provided the spoilers are true) Machu Mach Lion Heart Revise Master Key Beetle (against Vector just for laughs since Vector willingly gave them the card) Lucky Stripe (ONLY if Charlie ever returns, which I doubt he will at this point) Atlanthal Given future spoilers, I agree with this Machu Mach It's possible Lion Heart I'm not entirely convinced tbh. Revise I can see this happening Master Key Beetle Again, I'm not entirely convinced. Lucky Stripe Pfft, I very much doubt this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jord200 Posted May 21, 2013 Report Share Posted May 21, 2013 Atlanthal Given future spoilers, I agree with this Machu Mach It's possible Lion Heart I'm not entirely convinced tbh. Revise I can see this happening Master Key Beetle Again, I'm not entirely convinced. Lucky Stripe Pfft, I very much doubt this. I know. Lucky Stripe is the least likely. I mean it could happen, but I highly doubt it. The chances are extremely low. What they should have done to introduce Chaos Xyz is brought back important Numbers users ( Fuya, Charlie, the guy who had Number 12, Kittano ), had them get brainwashed by Gilag, and have Yuma use their former Numbers to beat their Chaos Xyz, instead of Hope spam and boring one time characters. I mean yeah, I'm happy Anna came back, and the flower girl had a pretty cool ace, and I get her and the art guy were to help introduce Rio, but still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted May 21, 2013 Report Share Posted May 21, 2013 I know. Lucky Stripe is the least likely. I mean it could happen, but I highly doubt it. The chances are extremely low. Extremely low/borderline not gonna happen. What they should have done to introduce Chaos Xyz is brought back important Numbers users (Fuya, Charlie, Yamikawa, Kitano), had them get brainwashed by Gilag, and have Yuma use their former Numbers to beat their Chaos Xyz, instead of Hope spam and boring one time characters. Who was Kitano again? Whilst I agree with this, you have to take into account Yuma's deck has to summon said Numbers without that getting boring (In this case using Gagaga Magician + Girl), plus it was easier to write for with the one-time characters thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jord200 Posted May 21, 2013 Report Share Posted May 21, 2013 Extremely low/borderline not gonna happen. Who was Kittano again? Whilst I agree with this, you have to take into account Yuma's deck has to summon said Numbers without that getting boring (In this case using Gagaga Magician + Girl), plus it was easier to write for with the one-time characters thing. If memory serves, he was the guy who had Terra-Byte. And I agree with you on that. I just feel like Yuma should be using other Numbers more than once every 20 episodes or whatever. I mean he's used a whopping 9 so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted May 21, 2013 Report Share Posted May 21, 2013 If memory serves, he was the guy who had Terra-Byte. Ah... yes, Mr Kay. (No wonder I couldn't figure out who Kitano was, as it was his last name GDI.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jord200 Posted May 21, 2013 Report Share Posted May 21, 2013 I just realized something. All the Barian Lords seem to have a connection to the Legendary Numbers ruins, right? Something happens with Rio, Shark, and Number 73's guardian. Durbe knew something about Mach and Number 44. Vector had been to Number 65's ruins before. Alit WAS the gladiator from the past at Number 54's ruins. Rio gets possessed or something at Number 73's ruins. It keeps looking more and more like Shark and Rio are Barians. Rio's ability to know when something involving a Barian happens, Shark's resemblence to Nasch. And there was a scene from the manga where Shark had a necklace that looked a lot like the Barian emblem. EDIT- Forget Lucky Stripe. Sky Peagsus. Its effect involving Numbers. Maybe that means we may see it again someday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted May 21, 2013 Report Share Posted May 21, 2013 Well, my thought is that it's more likely that Shark and Rio are descended from Barians, rather than Barians themselves. Rio's ability, I thought, occurred after IV used the card given to him by Tron. I also think it'd be strange if Rio is affected negatively by Barian influence if she's a natural Barian. My current theory is that the two missing Barian lords are Shark and Rio's parents. The series has a fascination with fathers. Dr. Faker is Kaito and Haruto's father. Yuma's father had a previous connection to Astral (when he got the Emperor's Key) and is currently connected to the Astral World somehow. III, IV, and V's father got sacrificed by Dr. Faker, ended up in the Barian World, and became a villain. So...Shark as the third protagonist character, and Rio as his (twin?) sister has not yet had some sort of revelation involving their parents (or father) in the plot. In fact, I don't think anyone has referenced their parents ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted May 21, 2013 Report Share Posted May 21, 2013 I just realized something. All the Barian Lords seem to have a connection to the Legendary Numbers ruins, right? Something happens with Rio, Shark, and Number 73's guardian. Durbe knew something about Mach and Number 44. Vector had been to Number 65's ruins before. Alit WAS the gladiator from the past at Number 54's ruins. Rio gets possessed or something at Number 73's ruins. It keeps looking more and more like Shark and Rio are Barians. Rio's ability to know when something involving a Barian happens, Shark's resemblence to Nasch. And there was a scene from the manga where Shark had a necklace that looked a lot like the Barian emblem. EDIT- Forget Lucky Stripe. Sky Peagsus. Its effect involving Numbers. Maybe that means we may see it again someday? Evilfusion raised this point a while ago :P Basically I think due to the fact the Legendary Numbers were parts of Astral's power that was used to seal Don Thousands, it suggests a battle, which in turn suggests the Barian Emperor's were involved. Yeah... it's going to be interesting to see if it's true tbh. I doubt it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro Dude Posted May 22, 2013 Report Share Posted May 22, 2013 That is a stupid and pointless idea for a filler episode imo, sure it sounds hilarious on paper, but the Barian would have to be pretty good at disguises to even pass for Yuma's mum. All right, how about a couple of Rio episodes: 1. Rio's fear of cats makes it impossible for her to get along with Cat-chan so Cat-chan challenges Rio to a duel to get at the root of the problem. 2. Rio demands that IV have a rematch with her not just for hurting her but for having her brother barred for life. How about that? And why not, there should be at least one female barian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted May 22, 2013 Report Share Posted May 22, 2013 All right, how about a couple of Rio episodes: 1. Rio's fear of cats makes it impossible for her to get along with Cat-chan so Cat-chan challenges Rio to a duel to get at the root of the problem. 2. Rio demands that IV have a rematch with her not just for hurting her but for having her brother barred for life. How about that? And why not, there should be at least one female barian. The second one does sound plausable tbh. Hell, I'd even love to see it. A female Barian would be great, just with Rio and Shark it makes a lot of contradictions. Namely Childhood Memories, and why she reacts badly to Barian stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted May 22, 2013 Report Share Posted May 22, 2013 All right, how about a couple of Rio episodes: 1. Rio's fear of cats makes it impossible for her to get along with Cat-chan so Cat-chan challenges Rio to a duel to get at the root of the problem. 2. Rio demands that IV have a rematch with her not just for hurting her but for having her brother barred for life. How about that? And why not, there should be at least one female barian. The first one is the same boring filler drivel as usual. The second is like a bad fanfic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmpoleMew Posted May 22, 2013 Report Share Posted May 22, 2013 The first one is the same boring filler drivel as usual. The second is like a bad fanfic. Which means naturally, both have to happen at some point. Lest we forget Orbital 7 vs Obomi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted May 22, 2013 Report Share Posted May 22, 2013 Well, from what I gathered, the two missing Barian lords are named Nasch and Merag. The latter could be female. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jord200 Posted May 23, 2013 Report Share Posted May 23, 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leX8ejMosPI I noticed something. Its only there for a second. At 1:19. You see Shark and whats most likely Rio judging by the appearence. However..... Why would she be a shadow? What are the two monsters? One of them ( probably the bigger one ) is Number 73. The other might be a Chaos Xyz of Rio's or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted May 23, 2013 Report Share Posted May 23, 2013 What would make a bit more sense is if Nasch was the father of Shark and Rio, and they were Barian-human hybrids or something. Or, maybe both of them had their memories altered, with Nasch (Shark) and Merag (Rio) tiring of the war and going into hiding by becoming human. Though this latter theory assumes that the writers of ZEXAL are smart enough to have some of the Barians not be completely and irredeemably evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted May 23, 2013 Report Share Posted May 23, 2013 Amusingly, the writers had Shingetsu tell Yuma that the Barian World is not an evil world, and that good people exist there, too. Except then Shingetsu turned out to be Vector, who was totally screwing with Yuma by "spouting nonsense". This seemed mildly backwards in development for the Barian World. But Durbe has stated his motivations is to save the Barian World, and Number 96 also acknowledged to Vector that he has no interest in either the Astral World or Barian World. Durbe is also seemingly more honorable and righteous than the other Barians, but Misael has also shown shades of not being evil, but having a very strong sense of personal pride and honor. Misael against Yuma/Astral was more malicious, but when you consider that Astral and Yuma are the Barian World's enemies, and it'd be a way to prove to Durbe that he is more reliable than Gilag and Alit, it makes sense. Against Kaito, Misael is more honorable and eager to prove his own skill and strength. He refused to use Sargasso's Lighthouse in that Duel because it'd be unfair under those circumstances. Also, Misael showed some elements of concern about Alit and Gilag. While he said it was pathetic for Alit to lose to Yuma and end up in danger, he understood Gilag's determination to avenge it, and got angry when Vector mocked them. There hasn't been any indication that Durbe and Misael realize that Vector is the one who attacked Alit, despite witnessing his reveal to Yuma. Then again, Alit told Gilag specifically, and it's unlikely Gilag told Misael this detail prior to Dueling Yuma and losing. Gilag and Alit very obviously had no idea Shingetsu was Vector or what the other Barian human forms are. So right now, of the Barians, Vector is the only evil one. Alit had his personality change a bit (maybe due to Don Thousand's power reviving him, or just personal determination), and Gilag had a very good relationship with Alit, showing intense agitation when Alit got hurt and when he seemed reckless in wanting to Duel Yuma. Durbe seems to have good intentions and is able to keep the others in line. Vector clearly creates conflict and acts on his own without filling his allies in, which aggravates Durbe and angers Misael. Misael is somewhat honorable, even if it is reserved for Kaito. Whoever Nasch is, Durbe clearly respects him. Don Thousand seems typical "evil lord" villain, but he hasn't actually DONE anything evil yet. He's just known as the Barian God, who was defeated by Astral long ago and had his power sealed. No doubt he's pretty evil, but nothing yet is truly known about him. He's currently bonded to Vector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted May 24, 2013 Report Share Posted May 24, 2013 What are the two monsters? One of them (probably the bigger one) is Number 73. I'll take you up on that bet. The other might be a Chaos Xyz of Rio's or something. inb4itisn't, but it is possible though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Sage Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 This thing… It's a Rank 3 Xyz Monster called "Gorgonic Guardian". Considering the medium, it is probably related to ZEXAL. Speculations ahoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jord200 Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 This thing… It's a Rank 3 Xyz Monster called "Gorgonic Guardian". Considering the medium, it is probably related to ZEXAL. Speculations ahoy. Its head kind of looks like Orbital 7..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 This thing… It's a Rank 3 Xyz Monster called "Gorgonic Guardian". Considering the medium, it is probably related to ZEXAL. Speculations ahoy. Looks interesting, and I bet that the person on the left-hand side of the image is Rio. Also le RAW: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1082ff_zero-raws-yu-gi-oh-zexal-ii-episode-105-tx-1280x720-x264-aac_fun?search_algo=2#.UaIoX9jgbNM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 Random Thought: Now, to go watch the raw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 Number 46 is...interesting. I have no idea how its effect works right now. And it's probably the dragon that became Galaxy-Eyes Photon Dragon and/or Galaxy-Eyes Tachyon Dragon. However, it is not a Galaxy-Eyes monster. But it's curious...I was operating under the belief that Photon Dragon and Tachyon Dragon are divergences of the same monster, due to how they almost perfectly possess the ability to counter one another. But if that's true and Number 46 is the origin point of the two, why is Galaxy-Eyes Photon Dragon a non-Xyz and the other two are Xyz? Maybe I'll have to check Wiki or a topic here for its full effect before further speculation. Also, Durbe was evidently the Pegasus rider, Vector is the executioner king, and Alit was the gladiator. Of course, the latter two we pretty much knew already, but Astral made the connection when studying Number 44 and Number 54. Also, the Number pattern mentioned before is continuing. All the Numbers revealed in Zexal II so far have a 4 or a 6 in the name. (66, 44, 65, 54, and 46) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jord200 Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 Number 46 is...interesting. I have no idea how its effect works right now. And it's probably the dragon that became Galaxy-Eyes Photon Dragon and/or Galaxy-Eyes Tachyon Dragon. However, it is not a Galaxy-Eyes monster. But it's curious...I was operating under the belief that Photon Dragon and Tachyon Dragon are divergences of the same monster, due to how they almost perfectly possess the ability to counter one another. But if that's true and Number 46 is the origin point of the two, why is Galaxy-Eyes Photon Dragon a non-Xyz and the other two are Xyz? Maybe I'll have to check Wiki or a topic here for its full effect before further speculation. Also, Durbe was evidently the Pegasus rider, Vector is the executioner king, and Alit was the gladiator. Of course, the latter two we pretty much knew already, but Astral made the connection when studying Number 44 and Number 54. Also, the Number pattern mentioned before is continuing. All the Numbers revealed in Zexal II so far have a 4 or a 6 in the name. (66, 44, 65, 54, and 46) So Durbe and Mach are the same person? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 I think it was stated that Mach was the spirit of the Pegasus, not the rider. This episode showed a scene of human Durbe (no glasses) riding a pegasus. Edit: Double checked. Astral asked Mach is the Pegasus that served the hero, and was given an affirmative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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