Yu-Gi-Oh! ZeXal Sub/Manga Official Discussion Thread

[Premier Alexander Romanov]

My main complaint with ZEXAL II so far is the writing.

If the current schedule is correct, we are taking a break from a war between universes in order to pursue three different romantic subplots.

And the whole "get all of the Numbers" plot that drove the first season appears to have been dropped in favor of the aforementioned war.

But my biggest gripe is Episode 81, and the implications that were never addressed.

TORI AND CATHY, two of Yuma's closest friends, got brainwashed and used against him.

TORI used a Chaos Xyz monster against Yuma.

Why does Yuma still trust those two? In fact, why is he trusting anyone?

The villains proved they can make any of Yuma's friends his enemies.

At the very least, he should've tried to find some way to get back at whoever mind controlled his friends.

[evilfusion]

And he found out who mind controlled his friends just recently: Gilag, who at the time, he was completely oblivious to him being a Barian until Gilag revealed Rank-Up Magic.

 

There are a lot of issues not being addressed very well in Zexal II, I'll admit that. One of the things I loved about Zexal was that they did an excellent job of keeping certain things consistent. Characters who may remember past incidents and/or react to something usually DID react, such as Droite and Gauche recognizing Yuma as the trouble-maker, and Yuma reacting to them having Photons.

[Sleepy]

Just curious, but is anyone else bothered by the Kashimiro siblings (Shark & Rio)?

In the aspect of where their powers come from, I mean.

I'd think by this point they'd at least try to explain why she has seer powers, and why was he so special for Tron's plan.

I still can't very much accept that they have powers of important relevance, and I'm supposed to just accept that they do, and that said powers aren't even fully explained.

[~British Soul~]

RAW:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xx2j4s_yu-gi-oh-zexal-ii-15-88-raw_shortfilms?search_algo=2#.UQWR1fKjjKo

 

The one thing that has me confuzzled is the title for Ep 87:

Gilag's Brutal Assault! Explode Forth, Bukotsu the Pressure Point-Striking Delinquent" (I was always thinking "What does this Bukotsu the Pressure Point-Striking Delinquent thing do.")

[Jord200]

Yuma used 3 Numbers. None of them were Hope. Everyone, this could be a sign that the days of Yuma spamming only Hope be ending. Also, I think a certain Number may be making heel face turn. *cough96cough*

[~British Soul~]

Yuma used 3 Numbers. None of them were Utopia. Everyone, this could be a sign that the days of Yuma spamming only Utopia be ending

inb4Yuma starts to spam Utopia again.

 

Maybe Astral finally got to Yuma: "Yuma, this is not a situation that calls for Utopia to be used, use another Number." "Ok Astral."

[Northern Sage]

RAW:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xx2j4s_yu-gi-oh-zexal-ii-15-88-raw_shortfilms?search_algo=2#.UQWR1fKjjKo

 

The one thing that has me confuzzled is the title for Ep 87:

Gilag's Brutal Assault! Explode Forth, Bukotsu the Pressure Point-Striking Delinquent" (I was always thinking "What does this Bukotsu the Pressure Point-Striking Delinquent thing do.")

Gauche got better in his Barian form.

Also, a song sounded vaguely similar to a theme in 5d's.

My theory about the new Chaos Numbers got more support.

[~British Soul~]

Gauche got better in his Barian form.

Don't you mean Gilag?

[Northern Sage]

Don't you mean Gilag?

Yes. Yes I do.

Probably because of the bar thingie yesterday.

[~British Soul~]

Probably because of the bar thingie yesterday.

Oh yeah, the YCM bar thingy. I remember that because Jord asked me to bring Gauche and Droite.

[Premier Alexander Romanov]

[spoiler=SPOILER ALERT!!!]

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Numeron_Code

So the Astralians and the Barians want the [s]source code[/s] punch card of reality?

...I quit.

[/spoiler]

[Jord200]

[spoiler=SPOILER ALERT!!!]

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Numeron_Code

So the Astralians and the Barians want the source code punch card of reality?

...I quit.

[/spoiler]

 

 

Actually that doesn't sound that bad in theory. We can assume that it will be an actual playable card. Stop and think for a minute. 

 

Anime Machinicle, Volca, Atlanthalm Coat of Arms, Gemine Heriter, Shunerous, Ra, the Temporal Machine Gods. Zone's Hand Traps, Manga Signer Dragons, Fran Ken, Tomahawk. One of a kind cards that are a huge part of the plot or are used by an important charecter tend to be more insane than an army of crazy Yandere women. I would rather take my chances with Yuno, Shion, and Kotonoha than go up against the anime/manga versions of those cards. I wouldn't say its a punch card, more so a Deus ex Machina/Memento McGuffin/Destroyer of Worlds. 

[~British Soul~]

[spoiler=SPOILER ALERT!!!]

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Numeron_Code

So the Astralians and the Barians want the source code punch card of reality?

...I quit.

[/spoiler]

I would assume that if the Barians got a hold of it, then they'd hold the info they'd need to destroy the Astral world.

 

Oh and here's the RAW:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xx8xu2_yu-gi-oh-zexal-ii-16-raw_shortfilms?search_algo=2#.UQ7QufLwDeo

[Premier Alexander Romanov]

Atlanthalm Coat of Arms

Gemine Heriter

Shunerous

Yuno

Shion

Kotonoha

Are we talking about the same anime?

[Jord200]

Are we talking about the same anime?

 

Yuno from Mirai Nikki. Shion from Higurashi. Kotonoha from School Days. Because Yugioh doesn't have any insane Yanderes. I think.

 

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Orichalcos_Shunoros

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Number_6:_Chronomaly_Atlandis

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Number_8:_Heraldic_King_Genom-Heritage

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Number_69:_Heraldry_God_-_Coat_of_Arms

[Premier Alexander Romanov]

I'm rather familiar with those cards (Coat of Arms being my favorite Number), but I wasn't sure if you meant them.

Also, I only recognize Shion out of the three.

[Sleepy]

I was actually quite pleased with this duel. Hope wasn't even mentioned as far as I know. 

The Arceus equivalent of Yugioh I presume? That's iffy, but depending on how they develop it, I might buy it.

[Northern Sage]

[spoiler='…']…And I now love Black Mist. They cranked the hamminess levels of his appearance up a lot. One of the best episodes in a while.[/spoiler]

[evilfusion]

I'm rather familiar with those cards (Coat of Arms being my favorite Number), but I wasn't sure if you meant them.

Also, I only recognize Shion out of the three.

 

Likewise.

 

Anyway...watched episode.

 

No, I totally did not have a fangasm when Volcasaurus and Atlanthal came out.

 

Nor was I gleeful when Black Mist was Summoned.

 

Nor do I love Black Mist's voice.

 

Okay, the last one's blatantly a lie. I was intrigued by Black Mist's laugh when that seal was broken, because it sounded deliciously familiar, and after some reflection...isn't that Kiryu's laugh from the Dark Signer arc of 5Ds? Or at least very, very similar.

 

Loved the episode, really. First time seeing Volcasaurus and Atlanthal since their respective episodes, flashbacks not counting. Seriously, it's been like 75 episodes since Volcasaurus was played. And while I'm disappointed that Yuma didnt bring out Atlanthal against Tron, it was still cool to see it.

 

Summoning Number 96 was rather unexpected. There is something sooo delicious about how Black Mist's voice sounds so psychotic when he declares his own effect. It's one of the best parts of episode 20, for that matter.

 

Now hopefully, the writers will use other Numbers. After all, if Astral was willing to use Black Mist, despite evidently LITERALLY sealing its card, surely the whole "all Numbers but Hope are evil" (idiotic) aspect will be irrelevent. Although I'll note that Atlanthal really IS supposed to be somewhat evil. Which makes me wonder slightly why Yuma didn't Summon Focus Force instead, considering that's his other Rank 6 Number, it has higher ATK, and its anime effect actually can negate Xyz Monsters.

 

Not that I could possibly complain about Yuma bringing out non-Hope Numbers and actually USE them.

 

*mops up drool from floor*

[Jord200]

Likewise.

 

Anyway...watched episode.

 

No, I totally did not have a fangasm when Volcasaurus and Atlanthal came out.

 

Nor was I gleeful when Black Mist was Summoned.

 

Nor do I love Black Mist's voice.

 

Okay, the last one's blatantly a lie. I was intrigued by Black Mist's laugh when that seal was broken, because it sounded deliciously familiar, and after some reflection...isn't that Kiryu's laugh from the Dark Signer arc of 5Ds? Or at least very, very similar.

 

Loved the episode, really. First time seeing Volcasaurus and Atlanthal since their respective episodes, flashbacks not counting. Seriously, it's been like 75 episodes since Volcasaurus was played. And while I'm disappointed that Yuma didnt bring out Atlanthal against Tron, it was still cool to see it.

 

Summoning Number 96 was rather unexpected. There is something sooo delicious about how Black Mist's voice sounds so psychotic when he declares his own effect. It's one of the best parts of episode 20, for that matter.

 

Now hopefully, the writers will use other Numbers. After all, if Astral was willing to use Black Mist, despite evidently LITERALLY sealing its card, surely the whole "all Numbers but Hope are evil" (idiotic) aspect will be irrelevent. Although I'll note that Atlanthal really IS supposed to be somewhat evil. Which makes me wonder slightly why Yuma didn't Summon Focus Force instead, considering that's his other Rank 6 Number, it has higher ATK, and its anime effect actually can negate Xyz Monsters.

 

Not that I could possibly complain about Yuma bringing out non-Hope Numbers and actually USE them.

 

*mops up drool from floor*

I think Atlanthal is more unstable than evil. Really the only Numbers which would count as evil to our current knowledge would be Black Mist and Coat of Arms. Based off a bit of lolwikia search.

 

Sentient Numbers- 39, 96, 83, 32, 17, 22 ( 22 because it spoke and tried to give flowers Gagaga Girl )

Good/Not Evil Numbers- 39, 7, 32, 83, 34, 63, ( the last 3 because the desires they amplified were not bad ones )

Unstable Numbers- 6, 69 ( because it changed forms multiple times )

Evil Numbers- 96, 69 ( curiously the both of them have six and nine in them )

Numbers that grant/granted Powers to their owners- 7 ( Good luck ), 63 ( Good cooking skills ), 25 ( predicting the future via photographs )

[evilfusion]

Evil was the wrong word. I think I meant to say "dangerous".

 

I also think Coat of Arms is "evil" because of how Tron said it required anger to control. Tron claimed he can't produce anger himself, so he fulfilled the criteria by making other people despise him for his cruel actions. A Number that requires hatred and cruelty to use should qualify as evil. Plus its effects seem geared towards causing pain or hopelessness (stealing effects, when attacked, it can destroy any card on the Field).

[Jord200]

So does this mean Rei is like a cop or something? If so, I think he might be older than 13. That being said, Gilag is 14, Gauche and Droite are 19, and Tonnsuke is 13. Zexal really sucks at age. Also, it seems we have it wrong. Its Varrian. Not Barrian.

[evilfusion]

Considering the Barians are taking on human forms that happen to look that age, I dont think they're literally that same age.

 

And Droite and Gauche should not be that young. Their designs and behaviors look nothing like those ages. Gauche looks mid-to-late 20s, and Droite's clothing suggests maybe 25. She's closer-looking to 19 than Gauche is.

[DARKPLANT RISING]

I'm probably a retard because I know all of the yandere characters Jord mentioned.
...But wait, no Yanderes in Yugioh?
...What about Yubel?

On a separate note, still hard to believe Black Mist and Astral's voice actors are the same.
Well, Astral's voice actor is pretty famous, but he almost never got to do an antagonist voice so he was really willing to go for it.

The duel was one of the best so far, mainly because Yuma actually dueled in a way that can be considered entertaining.

Oh, and though the "the world started from a single card" idea IS absurd, there still was, in the past, Mighty Morphin' ZeXal Rangers, I Activate Polymerization on Myself and My Bike, I Activate Polymerization With My Two Friends to Summon Forth Zetsubou Machina Mega-Shoulders, Let's Build a School About Card Games, Letting a Criminal Go Because He Won a Card Game, and all the other stuff. Honestly, I think these absurd, illogical scenarios IS one reason why Yugioh is so fun to watch.

And I'm happy they picked up what Darkness said in GX anyways, on that note. Apart from that, thinking the Numeron Code is probably something like the Akashic Record, it's possible to build up to an extremely badass ending. Not bad, not bad.

[evilfusion]

Part of it is because Black Mist is incredibly hammy, and Astral is extremely composed and almost monotonous at times. It makes the contrast incredibly fun to see. It's the same voice of course, but the delivery is amazing.