~British Soul~ Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 I knew the writers would avoid giving Yuma all of Tron's Numbers, but i didn't think that Faker would steal all of their Numbers using the Sphere Field (except Utopia ofc). Also at least III, IV and V's souls are back (so we can see what IV's other Numbers are in the future). Thanks to the Sphere Field, Faker now has a whopping [b]32 [/b]Numbers (22 known by name). EDIT: Now the only [u]known[/u] people in the series that have Numbers are Yuma, Shark, Faker and IV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 That assumes that 1- Tron didnt have Numbers we didnt know of (not counting Kaito's unknowns) 2- Kaito didnt have more Numbers than we saw him collect onscreen/directly stated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted August 15, 2012 Report Share Posted August 15, 2012 Well, Faker odds are won't summon any of the multitude of Numbers he stole from the others, using his own personal ones. I thought people had worked out that IV didn't have any more numbers? Also, apparently Heartland is actually going to do something to try and stop a rescue attempt on Yuma. Another Number maybe? Probably not, but its possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted August 15, 2012 Report Share Posted August 15, 2012 [quote name='HiveNet' timestamp='1345054514' post='6007268'] I thought people had worked out that IV didn't have any more numbers? [/quote] He still has his 3 Gimmick Puppet Numbers though. Also by the time he dueled Bronk and Caswell in episode 33 he had obtained 10 Numbers (4 of which were known: 15, 40, 88 and 32), so there would be 6 of his Numbers we don't know about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted August 15, 2012 Report Share Posted August 15, 2012 [quote]Well, Faker odds are won't summon any of the multitude of Numbers he stole from the others, using his own personal ones.[/quote] Faker odds be fakin' the odds. But in any case, it's nice to see new Numbers, even if aren't those ten-ish Numbers Kaito captured and never showed anyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted August 15, 2012 Report Share Posted August 15, 2012 [quote name='~British Soul~' timestamp='1345054688' post='6007273'] He still has his 3 Gimmick Puppet Numbers though. Also by the time he dueled Bronk and Caswell in episode 33 he had obtained 10 Numbers (4 of which were known: 15, 40, 88 and 32), so there would be 6 of his Numbers we don't know about. [/quote] I've stated this repeatedly: Just because we didnt see the Numbers change hands doesn't mean they DIDNT. Same thing with the possibility that Shark does NOT have Number 32 anymore. Also, I continue to believe that the Numbers IV were using were a collection of all the Numbers the Tron family had. It's possible they're not, but considering V explicitly took one of those Numbers and gave it to III to give to Shark, and IV later identified Shark Drake as being one of III's Numbers, it's possible they are indeed the family Numbers, not just IV's. If we estimated that there were 9 Numbers in total, we then look at the ones they used: -Number 15: Gimmick Puppet - Giant Killer -Number 32: Shark Drake -Number 33: OOPArts Machu Mach -Number 40: Gimmick Puppet - Heaven's Strings -Number 6: OOPArts Atlanthal -Number 8: Medallion King, Genome Heriter -Number 9: Dyson Sphere -Number 88: Gimmick Puppet - Destiny Leo -Number 69: Medallion God, Coat of Arms Oh look, 9 Numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted August 15, 2012 Report Share Posted August 15, 2012 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1345069850' post='6007590'] I've stated this repeatedly: Just because we didnt see the Numbers change hands doesn't mean they DIDNT. Same thing with the possibility that Shark does NOT have Number 32 anymore. [/quote] If Shark didn't have Number 32, then what would be considered as his ace? i don't think any of the other Xyz monsters Shark has would be considered an ace imo. Sure it's possible that Shark might not have Number 32, it's extremely unlikely that he doesn't anymore, imo. [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1345069850' post='6007590'] I've stated this repeatedly: Just because we didnt see the Numbers change hands doesn't mean they DIDNT. Same thing with the possibility that Shark does NOT have Number 32 anymore. Also, I continue to believe that the Numbers IV were using were a collection of all the Numbers the Tron family had. It's possible they're not, but considering V explicitly took one of those Numbers and gave it to III to give to Shark, and IV later identified Shark Drake as being one of III's Numbers, it's possible they are indeed the family Numbers, not just IV's. If we estimated that there were 9 Numbers in total, we then look at the ones they used: -Number 15: Gimmick Puppet - Giant Killer -Number 32: Shark Drake -Number 33: OOPArts Machu Mach -Number 40: Gimmick Puppet - Heaven's Strings -Number 6: OOPArts Atlanthal -Number 8: Medallion King, Genome Heriter -Number 9: Dyson Sphere -Number 88: Gimmick Puppet - Destiny Leo -Number 69: Medallion God, Coat of Arms Oh look, 9 Numbers. [/quote] 9 must be the new 10 or something (because we know that IV had 10 Numbers prior to that duel, and you listed 9 of all the Tron family Numbers)...so..by that logic IV must have at least 1 Number we don't know about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted August 15, 2012 Report Share Posted August 15, 2012 I dont recall seeing 10 cards or papers in that episode. I vaguely recall 8 or 9. Even so, it'd be great if III, IV, or V continued to be plot-relevant. I just doubt they still have NEW Numbers. It's possible IV still has his 3 and Shark still has his, which would be nice in its own way, to keep Number C32 from being a one-shot ace. Prior to geting Number 32, Shark used Black Ray Lancer and Aero Shark as his ace(s). Against IV, that marked the first time he went for Number 32, and he did the same against Yuma. And I also think there may be more to his role in the plot. In episode 26, Tron made a comment about needing Shark "after they've gotten all the Numbers", although he later said he had Shark join the tournament to take out Dr. Faker. If he still has Number 32/C32, this may play a part as to why Dr. Faker would Duel against Yuma, Shark, and Kaito in the first place. Yuma evidently still has Utopia, and Shark may still have his. I'm just saying we shouldnt get our hopes up that certain events didnt happen just because we didnt see it happen explicitly. Number Duels have constantly been implied to take the loser's Numbers by default (I think Episode 2 even had Astral state this happened), and after the Kaito/Yuma vs III/IV Duel, it was shown that the crests prevented losing the Numbers, however, III, IV, and V have lost their crests' powers after their defeats, and while III and V explicitly left their Numbers behind, IV gave no such indication, but I still think it probably happened and no attention was given to it because the Numbers aren't important to Shark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted August 15, 2012 Report Share Posted August 15, 2012 While evilfusion has a good point, I would like to bring something up... In every Number Duel we've seen so far, the victor always had some way of taking their opponent's Numbers. Yuma had Astral, Kaito had Photon Hand, and the Tron family had their crests. The only exceptions where Numbers may have been taken by less "supernatural" methods were Shark, who had taken control of the Number during the duel, and Jin, who had some unknown method that, iirc, was similar to Photon Hand. I'm not exactly arguing either way, but merely bringing up the point that, excluding Shark, [b]every "Hunter" had some method of retrieving the Numbers from their opponent, not just by hand.[/b] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted August 15, 2012 Report Share Posted August 15, 2012 Although the supernatural methods also seem capable of stealing souls, Astral excluded. Jin did say that Numbers bond to the soul, which may be why Kaito has to use Photon Hand. I think Jin even somehow had access to Photon Hand, but he was a Kaito worshipper... Which still begs the question of how the hell Jin was so knowledgeable about Kaito when the end of Episode 18 made it very clear that he had not, in fact, been involved with Kaito at all. Why was Jin after or aware of Numbers, his Kaito obsession notwithstanding? Where did he get the power to take Numbers/souls? The only purpose his last Number seemed to serve was for Kaito to show up, indirectly revealing his lie, and defeat him. We never found out what it was, nor how Jin had his "seeing eye" ability. That's an aspect that bugs me. Some of the side characters had/have a lot more potential or relevance than they're ultimately given. Number 96 may still prove to have relevence, but Jin feels like a waste of potential, whereas the filler characters in the WDC were just awful characters, Charlie being the only interesting one, and the only one with a Number. Syuta was all right, but I think Number 25's ability to see/predict the future could have been expanded on more, maybe in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jord200 Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 How do we know Jin's mind control/future sight power just wasn't something he got from Big Eye? I mean the mind control thing isn't very farfetched considering Big Eye's effect. We don't, and probably never will. Some Numbers give their owners a power. Lukcy Stripe- Extremely good luck. Focus Force- Predicting the future through photographs. Shamoji Soldier- Great cooking skills. Jin is pretty much the Devak of Zexal, if you know what I mean. I like to belive that the Tron family had only 9 Numbers. That way, there are less Numbers that are simply unknown and dn't get pushed aside like Kaito's 10+ Numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 this is what Number 92 would look like: [img]http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120816072912/yugioh/images/7/7e/Number92FalseSkeletalGodDragonHearteartHDragon-%3F%3F%3F%3F-JP-NC.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jord200 Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 Ladies and gentleman, I give you the IV of the manga. http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Kyouji_Yagumo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 I thought Luna was the IV of the manga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jord200 Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 She's probably somehow connected to this guy. Since she gave Shark a Number, maybe she's the III of the manga? Also, it seems 92 is a Rank 9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 I was expecting Number 92 to look somewhat more impressive... I know it will probably look a bit different, but still. As for the IV of the manga, this guy is a better fit that Luna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 Nah, to me, Luna seems more like a...V. She has that sort of aura, not the patheticness that III continually suffered.... Let's ignore the fact that she runs a pathetic Number and was OTK'd by Shark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 Where do you people find the manga =0 I just know Luna and that guy exist, but haven't really seen what they actually do. and I like the looks of 92. Doesn't look too uber powerful, but I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jord200 Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 [quote name='Merciful Idiot' timestamp='1345306354' post='6010084'] Nah, to me, Luna seems more like a...V. She has that sort of aura, not the patheticness that III continually suffered.... Let's ignore the fact that she runs a pathetic Number and was OTK'd by Shark. [/quote] What do you mean "Pathetic Number"? We don't know any of Luna's Numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 On the Wikia they have a page about episode 72. The title is as such: Betting It All! Yuma VS Kite!! So Yuma and Kite finally have a third duel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jord200 Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 I just found this on google. [IMG]http://i48.tinypic.com/29d7kwk.jpg[/IMG] I think thats Dr. Faker.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 [quote name='HiveNet' timestamp='1345313516' post='6010168'] On the Wikia they have a page about episode 72. The title is as such: Betting It All! Yuma VS K[b]aito[/b]!! So Yuma and [b]Kaito[/b] finally have a third duel. [/quote] ...Well the page isn't up there now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Yu-Gi-Oh!_ZEXAL_-_Episode_072"]http://yugioh.wikia....L_-_Episode_072[/url] That's the page. It just hasn't been linked to the others yet. It takes them a while. I think. And also 73 apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 That explains why i couldn't access the page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Sage Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 [quote name='Jord200' timestamp='1345314527' post='6010183'] I just found this on google. [img]http://i48.tinypic.com/29d7kwk.jpg[/img] I think thats Dr. Faker.... [/quote] Suddenly the Wily parallels seem more applicable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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