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seeing Number 17 was one of the best parts of the episode, although seeing Number 34, 12 was also great

Although there was one error in the preview which was fixed in the episode: When "[url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Number_8:_Heraldic_King_Genome_Heriter"]Number 8: Heraldic King Genome Heriter[/url]" copied the appearance of "[url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Number_12:_Crimson_Shadow_Armor_Ninja"]Number 12: Crimson Shadow Armor Ninja[/url]", it also had the same [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/EARTH"]EARTH[/url]-[url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Attribute"]Attribute[/url], but this is later corrected during the episode.

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And no new Numbers are revealed, even with the Sphere Field spamming. Bahamut's gonna flip.

Anyway, I'm catching up with the show, since I didn't watch any while on vacation. I just watched 62, and even though I knew how the duel was going to end, all the build up made it seem so, so, utterly lame...I mean c'mon Shark. You ruined it :(

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Bahamut cares too damn much.

Technically, to Yuma, Tron played 2 Numbers he'd never seen: Number 56 and Number 30 (although the audience knew Kaito had both). At least he recognized Number 10, but I felt disappointed that Goldrat didn't use its effect, and Yuma also didnt remember that Number 56 was the Number taken from the mall guy. (He and Astral had seen the number on the guy's shoulder, but Kaito beat them to beating the guy)

Sure, it's disappointing that Tron didnt manage to randomly Summon one of the 10+ Numbers Kaito never showed, we all secretly want the new Numbers to be Summoned properly, so that we know its Rank and number of Materials, plus the potential epicness of how they're brought out and what they do.

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[quote name='HiveNet' timestamp='1343070911' post='5986505']
The field spell makes Acid Golem's drawback non existant. As soon as it's out of overlay units it implodes, meaning no burn damage. Though i do like the random number still pulled out both Signatures, and nothing new.... Yes, its definately 'random'
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Acid Golem's effect is suppose to prevent any Summon that also classified as Special Summon and having it out should have prevent Tron from Summoning other numbers in that turn no less. but oh well, it's happen :/

EDIT: oh wait, it using the anime effect go figure. :/

Imo they should fix the episode including fixing the actions of number 8 but one can dream

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Here's things we got from this episode

-Mr. Heartland asked Dr. Faker to suspend the tournament after Kaito lost, but Faker told him that everything's okay as long as they have the sphere field.
-Tron took Kaito's soul, but Yuma and Astral assume that if they can beat him and destroy his powers everyone will be back to normal.
-Tron knows about the sphere field ("so he has completed it").
-Tron says that when he was wandering about the other world he gave up on living many times, but at those times he always remembered Kazama's words about friends, friendship and never giving up. With Faker's betrayal he realised just how meaningless friends and friendship are, but he finds the "never give up" part really precious because thanks to that he had a hope called revenge and came back to life.
-Tron explains that the crests he gave III, IV and V were directly connected to their souls as a price to gain power, so if they use strong Numbers and lose a duel their souls will be exhausted.
-Tron asks Yuma why he doesn't want to take revenge on Faker and he answers that his father wouldn't want him to do that. Then Tron suggest that he shouldn't be too sure about that as Kazama might have already begun his revenge by sending Astral to this world because Astral has the power to destroy it (so he's like a messenger of revenge).
-Astral is unsure whether Tron's words were the truth or not because he couldn't get his memories back yet. Yuma assures him that he's not a bad guy and tells him that he will definitely not let Tron and Faker get the Numbers. He trusts Astral and that he will use the Numbers for the right thing.

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Well, that's interesting, if Kazuma had sent Astral to destroy the world. But, knowing Yugioh, they're probably gonna change that and that he really is a good guy with good intentions.

Also, about that 'crest connected to the soul' part, that explains what happened with the three brothers. Destiny Leo, Atlanthal, and Dyson Sphere were all (technically) powerful cards, so I guess it's natural they're exhausted.

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so ZW Dragonic Halberd is a level 5 with.....3000 ATK? haven't seen a monster with a 3000 stat needing 1 tribute since.....Labyrinth Wall/Millennium Shield, but i know that isn't the ZW you're talking about

the ZW i think you're talking about is the level 5 1200 ATK one that resembles a Tiger am i right?

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First off: Love Pacman and evil's references to me. Yes I do care too much, and this post will prove that. However I didn't really flip. I think bringing back all the old Numbers for another hoorah was pretty cool rather than just lots of new ones making 2 minute appearances in this situation. I read somewhere that in the Faker duel; Kaito will use Number 75: Photon something. That would make me flip.

So yeah anyway, Zexal. Just watched ep 65 (subbed) and couldn't wait, and watched 66 (raw, this being the first time I've ever watched an ep raw because I was that excited). I mean really excited. Had to watch 65 subbed on animeavenue, as anime44 has screwed up somehow putting the subs over ep 66, weirdly. Episode 65 set it up perfectly and I'm glad I waited for subs to know what was going on with effects esp where Sphere Field was concerned, and the action was getting me pumped with the insane Number fest that was garunteed but still enjoyed. Random Numbers, that would be why Hope was forth choice then (look at Yuma's face when he gets it, he's so happy). Enjoyed the pre match talk about the brothers and planting the seeds of doubt and evil around Astral again, was brilliant. But it was just all about watching 66.

I didn't understand anything that was going on. I didn't understand what some of the cards did in places. I didn't understand the long talk in the middle where Tron presumably says what is going to happen that will 'jeopardise thousands of lives' and Yuma crying and stuff.

And I don't care.

That. Was. Awesome.

It was so worth the wait. Thank you writers, that was just the best. Please see it through to the end.

And the best part is; I now get to wait not so impatiently for it to be subbed, and I can watch it all again. :D

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I usually can get the gist of what happens in Duels, either by the actions, or by certain keywords that I do understand in Japanese.

Apparently, Number 69 in the anime can also detach an Overlay Unit to destroy a monster that attacks it (or something like that). That's...insane. In addition to automatically negating all opposing Monster Effects and being able to steal them at will?

Tron's face was DEFINITELY unexpected and while it looks weird, it also looks pretty cool, and explains why his left side has always been completely covered, especially the eyepiece.

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K, here's a complete script of what happened in the latest episode. Do not read if you do not want to, etc. Credits are due to Bobo of NAC for the script, I took no part in this, etc. etc, you get the point.

[spoiler Episode 66](Recap)

Yuma: It’s the Final of Duel Carnival! Tron and I are dueling on the Sphere Field, and both of us have summoned 3 Numbers! The real match has just got started! I definitely will not lose! Kattobingu da, ore!

Tron: Hehehe…I can’t believe that you are able to summon 3 Numbers at once as well, it seems only your luck is pretty decent for now.
Yuma: This isn’t luck! It’s all due to my strength!
Astral: This formation is winnable! Let’s do this, Yuma!
Yuma: Oh! I activate Leviath Dragon’s effect! By detaching one Overlay Unit, it gains 500 ATK! Go, Leviath Dragon, attack White Shining Knight Illuminator! VICE STREAM!! Here’s another one, go, Aspiring Emperor Hope, attack Genome Heriter! HOPE SWORD SLASH!
Tron: Tch…(LP 4000-3900-3800) But that’s nothing at all! I still have Acid Golem with 3000 ATK on my field!
Yuma: I am not done yet! I activate a Magic [card] from my hand! XYZ Triangle Force! When I control 3 or more Xyz Monsters, this card destroys one card on my opponent’s field! Go, destroy Acid Golem!
Tron: Tsk! So you even prepared this kind of card huh…
Yuma: Tron! Now all of your Numbers were defeated!

Takashi: Now he got a chance, a really good one!
Tetsuo: Tron has zero set cards and hand, as long as he is unable to summon a Monster during his next turn…
Tokunosuke: …it will be Yuma’s victory, ura!
Cathy: Do your best, Yuma!

Yuma: I end my turn like this, just come at me!
Tron: Hehehe…don’t tell me that you really think you can defeat me?
Yuma: OF COURSE!! For III, as well as Kaito’s sake, I absolutely have to defeat you!
Tron: Now you have 3 Numbers on your field, it seems the stage for me get serious is finally completed.
Yuma: Wh…what?!
Tron: This is my own destiny draw! Kattobingu daze, boku! Just kidding~ alright, let’s get started! I activate Heraldic Beast Unicorn’s effect from my Graveyard! By banishing this card from the Graveyard, I can negate the effects of a Xyz Monster in my Graveyard and special summon it! Come forth, White Shining Knight Illuminator! Then I activate the effect of another Heraldic Beast Unicorn from my Graveyard! In the same manner, I special summon Genome Heriter from the Graveyard!
Yuma: It’s futile even you manage to summon these Monsters! My Monsters still got higher ATK!
Astral: No, his goal isn’t attacking with those revived Monsters…
Yuma: Huh?!
Astral: If his goal is attacking, then he should have revived Acid Golem who has the highest ATK among them!
Tron: I activate Magic card from my hand, Reborn Medallion! This card can resurrect one LV4 or lower Heraldic Beast from my Graveyard! Revive, Heraldic Beast Berner’s Falcon! I activate Berner’s Falcon’s effect! When this card is on my field, it can change all Monsters on my field to the same level of this card!
Astral: Letting Xyz Monsters have LEVELS?!
Yuma: Now he controls three LV4 Monsters…don’t tell me…
Tron: I overlay Illuminator, Genome Heriter and Berner’s Falcon! I construct Overlay Network with these 3 Monsters! Xyz Summon! Show yourself, No. 69, allow me to show you my real trump, God Medallion Coat of Arms!
Astral: So it finally shows up huh…that Number…

Tetsuo: So that’s the Number which beat Neo Galaxy-Eyes to the oblivion!
Cathy: Yuma!

Astral: This is the Number we are talking about…the embodiment of Tron’s vindictive heart!
Tron: (His mask is disappearing) It hurts…I can feel the suffocation from the overflowed hatred! This mask is no longer needed! Since this is literally the last duel for all of you! After its conclusion, your memory…no, I will snatch everything away from you! Thus I will let you have a good look…on my real face!
Everyone: HUH?!!
Mr. Heartland: This…this is…
Dr. Faker: Bryon….

(Insert OP)


No. 66 The Terrifying Duel! Arise, Hero of Bonds ZEXAL

Yuma: Face…his face…
Tron: That’s right, when I was walking along the fissure of Different World, I have became the way you see right now. Right now the only thing that’s left inside my body is that heart of revenge!
Astral: Tron…so your true identity shows that you are no longer a human from this world?
Tron: Hehehehe…Hahahaha…!!

Audience: That AR…it looks awesome!
Audience (female): It can even change player’s appearance!
Audience: I expect no less from this Final!

Tetsuo: No! That’s not AR’s effect!
Takashi: In conclusion, that’s his true appearance!
Cathy: Yuma, hurry and run!
Kotori: Everyone get a hold of yourself! If we don’t cheer for Yuma, who else will? YUMA, GO!

Tron: Yuma, Astral, take a good look at my power! This is the ultimate Number I have obtained! This guy has special effects! Coat of Arms cannot be destroyed by card effects. Additionally except itself, all other Monster effects on the field are negated! And it makes all those effects as its own!
Yuma: Making other Monster effects as its own?!
Tron: That’s right, regardless of what Monsters do you have, they will all become powerless in front of Coat of Arms! I shall make you realize that there is essentially no need for so-called friendship and hope! I activate Coat of Arms’ effect! GOD MEDALLION HAND!!!
Astral: It stole the Monster effects!
Tron: Then let me use it right away! I activate Coat of Arms’ effect! By detaching one Overlay Unit, I activate the effect which stole from Leviath Dragon! That means Coat of Arms gains 500 ATK! Then I activate Heraldic Beast Leo’s effect from my Graveyard! When my Monster’s ATK changes, by banishing this card, it can lower my opponent Monster’s ATK in the same amount! (Leviath Dragon ATK 2500-2000)
Yuma: Leviath Dragon’s ATK is reduced?!
Tron: Do it and bury Leviath Dragon! Take this…GOD RAGE!!!
Yuma: AHHHHHH!! (LP 500)

Dr. Faker: Such terrifying power from a Number…interesting, Bryon! So your vindictive heart is actually this powerful. Very interesting indeed!!!

Astral: Are you alright, Yuma?
Yuma: Ah! I am still fine.
Tron: Still fine? I suggest you give up as soon as possible, I am different from III, IV and V, who were utterly useless; I am invincible! That’s right, this Coat of Arms have the same power difference between parents and kids!
Yuma: Parents and kids you say? Indeed, that Monster is exactly same as you!
Tron: What did you say?!
Yuma: Now I am sure of it: no matter III, IV or V, they are all amazing and splendid! They desperately support themselves, even until the end, they were still worry about you! But why people as good as them would willing to give up everything for someone like YOU?!! Do you think it’s natural just because they are your family members?!! No, that’s not it! It’s all because of they have faith in you! They believe one day you will return to normal!
Astral: Yuma…
Yuma: But why can’t you act a bit gentler to them upon your return?! Why just for something as boring as revenge, you push them to the dead end?!
Tron: Of course you won’t be able to understand, for a brat like you…
Yuma: Of course I know! I am very aware of the loneliness due to my father’s absence! They all feel very lonely because you are not with them! They still strive for their best even the instability would bring them tears sometimes!
Tron: Shut up! You have no right to lecture me! III…IV…V…family…memory…those things, they have already gone along with this face!

Yuma: I won’t give up this duel! Until I deliver the things that everyone has entrusted me to you, I am definitely not giving up!
Tron: It doesn’t matter. Anyway you will soon become the food for Coat of Arms! I end my turn!

Yuma: Let’s go, Astral!
Astral: Yuma…
Yuma: Use ZEXAL! We can only defeat him using the power of ZEXAL!
Astral: Yuma, this Sphere Field is a simulated space modeled from the Different World, just like inside the Emperor’s Key. Therefore we are able to conduct ZEXAL here. But there are many spectators in this duel…
Yuma: No need to worry about something like that. As long as I can deliver everyone’s feeling to that guy…let’s go, Astral!
Astral: Go, Yuma, with me together…

Yuma: KATTOBINGU DA, ORE!! I…
Astral: …and I…
Yuma and Astral: OVERLAY!!!
Astral: WHEN TWO DISTANT SOULS CONNECTS, THE GENERATONAL FORCE SHALL APPEAR!!! XYZ CHANGE ZEXAL!!!!!

Dr. Faker: He just said ZEXAL…
Audience: What was that?! He just transformed!!
Kotori: That’s the power of bonds between Yuma and Astral!
Testuo: That…that guy, even he is aware that everyone is watching, why would he still choose to do it?!
Takashi: In conclusion, just what on earth WILL happen next?
Cathy: Cat, maybe everyone thinks that’s just AR?
Tokunosuke: But now Yuma sure looks very cool, ura!
Audience (female A): Just like a true hero!
Audience (female B): That’s right, that’s right!
Audience (female C): He’s so handsome!
Tokunosuke: That’s right, ura! That’s the true hero for ya, ura!
Tetsuo: Hey, Tokunosuke, don’t say it out loud!
Tokunosuke: That’s ZEXAL, ura. Our hero that protects Heartland City! His name is ZEXALURA!
Audience A: ZEXALURA?
Audience B: ZEXALURA?!
Audience C: Oh so his name is ZEXALURA!!
Audience D: I like this name, ZEXALURA!!
Tokunosuke; No…that “ura”…that…
Audience: ZEXALURA, ZEXALURA, ZEXALURA!!!
Tokunosuke: Looks like we got an irreversible misunderstanding here, ura.
Audience: ZEXALLURA, ZEXALURA, ZEXALURA!!!
Tetsuo: Alright, I guess that works too.
Kotori: Amazing, that many people is cheering for Yuma and Astral…!
Audience: ZEXALURA, ZEXALURA, ZEXALURA!!!

Tron: I can’t believe you still has the secret technique of fusion in your sleeve.
Yuma: ZEXALURA…
Astral: Don’t get too fixated on details like these, concentrate on dueling!
Yuma: Ah, I got it. My turn, draw!
Astral: Yuma, CHAOS XYZ CHANGE!!
Yuma: Yes! I use Aspiring Emperor Hope as the Xyz Material and conduct CHAOS XYZ CHANGE!!! Come forth, CNo. 39 Aspiring Emperor Hope Ray!!

Tron: SO Aspiring Emperor Hope Ray finally joins the party huh. But it’s useless; I activate Coat of Arms’ effect! GOD MEDALLION HAND!! Hope Ray, your Monster effects are mine now!
Yuma: I won’t let you do that! I activate a Magic card, Seven Store!! By releasing one Xyz Monster I control, Seven Store allows me to draw one card!
Yuma: And I choose Terror-byte!
Yuma/Astral: Then if the released Monster has Overlay Units, I can draw an additional card for each one of them! Terror-byte has two Overlay Units, thus I can draw a total of cards!
Astral: EVERYTHING FROM THE STRONGEST DUELIST’S DUEL IS INEVITABLE!! EVEN THE CARDS THEY DREW CAN BE CREATED BY SUCH DUELISTS!!
Yuma: Let’s go, Astral! ALL OF THE LIGHT AND POWER, PLEASE GATHER YOURSLEVES ON MY RIGHT HAND, AND ILLUMINATE THE PATH TOWARDS HOPE!!! SHINING DRAW!!! Here it comes, ZEXAL Weapon!
Astral: Coat of Arms will negate opponent Monsters’ effects and absorb them. But it cannot stole the equipped ZEXAL Weapon’s effect!
Tron: I see, so that’s what you are aiming for.
Yuma: I equip ZEXAL Weapon Lighting Blade!
Astral: This ZEXAL Weapon does not require to be summoned on the field, instead it can be directly equipped to Hope Ray, and it gains 1200 ATK! Plus when this card was equipped, Magic and Trap cards I control cannot be destroyed!
Yuma: Go, Hope Ray!
Astral: Among the effects snatched by Coat of Arms, it doesn’t have the power to evade this one!
Yuma: HOPE SWORD LIGHNING BLADE!!! I DID IT!

Tron: I was waiting for this attack!! I activate Coat of Arms’ effect! When my opponent declares an attack, by detaching one Overlay Unit, it destroys one card on the field! I target Aspiring Emperor Hope Ray, and destroy it!
Yuma: WHAT?!
Tron: Let me show you…the original power of God! Go, Coat of Arms, GOD SHATTER!!!
Yuma: I activate Lightning Blade’s effect! When the equipped Monster would be destroyed by card effects, by returning ZEXAL Weapon to my hand, it can negate the destruction!
Tron: Hmph! Playing little tricks again, aren’t you? But the battle is still ongoing! Hope Ray is destined to die no matter what! Finish him off, Coat of Arms! Strangle Hope Ray to death!
Yuma: Tch! I activate Rescueleton Pig’s effect from my Graveyard!
Tron: From your Graveyard?!
Astral: When a Monster on my field would be destroyed, by banishing Rescueleton Pig from the Graveyard, it negates the destruction and makes the damage zero!

Rescueleton Pig: Rescueleton…To the Rescue! To the Rescue! Rescueleton….Bone!

Yuma: Thank you for saving me, Rescueleton Pig!
Tron: Tch! Here comes those boring tricks again! Hard to believe that you send that kind of Monster to the Graveyard from the beginning.
Astral: HOPE RAY, EQUIP LIGHTNING SWORD ONCE AGAIN!!
Yuma: I set one card, and end my turn!
Tron: How persistent. I expect no less from Kazuma’s son. You two are boring in the exact same manner!
Yuma: I absolutely will not give up! Tron! During this duel, I will definitely deliver everyone’s feeling to you!

To be continued

Preview

Astral: In the Final of WDC, this prolonged battle is finally about to end! And the true goal of Sphere Field is finally revealed…Yuma, we can’t afford to lose this duel!
Yuma: I can’t believe the ZEXAL Weapon is…
Astral: We have gambled everything on this final draw!
Yuma: Take it, our all-new attack! Next, Yu-Gi-Oh! ZeXal Believe in Victory, Final Shining Draw! What on earth is happening?![/spoiler]

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[quote name='Bringer☆de Cake' timestamp='1343784738' post='5993980']
That's why I keep the wiki open with a summary of the duel, so I can at least follow that.
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Looked up after 65 what Taskurton and Amarlyse do because I swore I hadn't seen them before and guessed they must have graveyard effects of some relevance. For my first raw ep there wasn't that much in 66 that threw me, didn't really know what was going on with Lightning Blade going away and re-equipping but guessed Coat of Arms additional effect as well as the other Heraldics (so pretty much a graveyard archtype, cool). No idea why it changed shape like it did but will see when its subbed (don't really want to read Johnny's script).

[quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1343855383' post='5994739']
Cool.

Sadly, I heard that next episode will be up the week after next.

But at least we have this episode to chew on for a bit.
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.... what?

*double checks wikia*

That's... cruel. You can't just leave it hanging there for an extra week like that!!!

For such a thing to happen, Tron has clearly taken over the director and stolen his soul! :angry:

[spoiler=24 stuff]*plus this puts my fic back another week, having been waiting for Fakers Numbers to be released since on name alone one of them fits in perfectly. Kinda annoying but not world ending, just kinda want to get back into it now*[/spoiler]

So yeah, that's not cool. But still, its not like the next few turns can't be guessed at. Don't read if you want uber drama and can wait two weeks for it (guffaw), although spoilers here aren't hugh.

[spoiler=Ep 67]
Yuma's set card was Half Unbreak

Tron activates Hope Ray's [b]anime[/b] effect stolen by Coat of Arms, detaching an overlay unit to raise ATK by 500 (ATK 3600) and lower Hope Rays by 1000 (ATK 2700). Attacks; Yuma activates Half Unbreak (LP 50).

Tron does something with his draw card. Activates effect of Heraldic Beast Twin Eagle in graveyard, banishing it to reattach Coat of Arms with 2 overlay units

Would have said duel would end on Yuma's next turn given how low his LP is, but just reading Twin Eagles effect makes me think it might go an extra round.[/spoiler]

Shaping up to be pretty good finale. Just don't understand why the extra long wait (Japanese holiday or something?)

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