Bahamut - Envoy of the End Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 [quote name='~Dark Soul~' timestamp='1341858885' post='5972009'] [s]how'd i guess you were gonna quote me[/s] i don't think Tron will spring out Coat of Arms ahead of billing, i just don't see that happening. (someone on the wikia does though as they edited the ep 64 page to include Number 69). although seeing as Number 8 as no Xyz Material remaining and Kaito is gonna summon NGEPD next episode anyway, Tron has to have something else up his sleeve to get rid of NGEPD and win as for the NGEPD thing, atm i see copies on ebay going for about £10, so it's not that much of a money card [/quote] I doubt that would happen, just throwing out as a possibility. Will probably be a third Heraldry Number instead. 44 maybe? So then that would be a number capable of destroying Neo Galaxy, that would have to be very powerful. Then Coat of Arms would then have to be stronger still (trying to build up Heraldrys because I love the idea/imagery). All the more reason to throw a kick ass exclusive then *gets hopes up* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 [quote name='Majestic Star Bahamut' timestamp='1341859128' post='5972011'] I doubt that would happen, just throwing out as a possibility. Will probably be a third Heraldry Number instead. 44 maybe? So then that would be a number capable of destroying Neo Galaxy, that would have to be very powerful. Then Coat of Arms would then have to be stronger still (trying to build up Heraldrys because I love the idea/imagery). All the more reason to throw a kick ass exclusive then *gets hopes up* [/quote] ...or maybe its something else that destroys NGEPD like a S/T card i also think that Coat of Arms will be really powerful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 What the hell did I just see. Unmasked Tron looks so...unnatural. I dont like the look. It's obviously not his real face (it looks like another mask, really), but it looks too weird for words. WHY Kaito?! Why bring out Number 9?! It was epic that he did, but come on, we still only know 5 of his 15+ Numbers. And Dyson Sphere got owned by Genome Heriter, and it didnt really do anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 In Japan's 2chan, it's commonly joked that V is a Neet. He was relaxing while reading a magazine about Tour Guide when he first appeared. Then, he drove a helicopter, and after that he just relaxed again. Once the duels start, he summons JUST 3 EFFING MONSTERS and proceeds to use Dyson Sphere's effect that is uber-broken in anime standards to just do nothing and wait for the opponent to die. Then, he gives Dyson Sphere to Kaito, and it becomes owned because it did nothing just like its master. BTW, Tron's face isn't really his face. He said that he and Haruto's minds are linked and it's just used to troll Kaito and Faker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahamut - Envoy of the End Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1341864099' post='5972121'] What the hell did I just see. Unmasked Tron looks so...unnatural. I dont like the look. It's obviously not his real face (it looks like another mask, really), but it looks too weird for words. WHY Kaito?! Why bring out Number 9?! It was epic that he did, but come on, we still only know 5 of his 15+ Numbers. And Dyson Sphere got owned by Genome Heriter, and it didnt really do anything. [/quote] Agree it does look odd, like there a half hologram image, half plastic mask combination. OTK with Photon Wing, boots Galaxy eyes by Rank x 200. Yeah its a silly card I think, but thats why. Besides like I said, Kaito might have made a statement about what Tron did to his buddy Chris (unless he was in 'I don't care about anyone else except Haruto' mode again like he was with Droite ) Maybe Darkplant can clarify if he did comment on using V's monster as payback against his dad and what he did to him or if he just treated as another monster. Still another episode to go... Besides if (just saying if) Tron takes all Kaito's Numbers, he could well use some of them against Yuma instead of Heraldry this and Heraldry that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jord200 Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 Even if Tron does take Kaito's Numbers, I would be shocked if Tron didn't use Genome Heriter against Yuma. Also, I have some news. You all remember Captain Corn, the pirate made of corn with Number 50 in the manga. According to lolwiki, Black Corn wasn't the Number he had. He had 1 other that he got from some random guy right before he dueled Yuma. I'm pretty sure Astral can still absorb multiple Numbers at once in the manga, so I'm sure he got it. And of course, Captain Corn is dead, so he won't be around to use it. So if Yuma uses a random Number thats not 39, 17, 50, 91, or 22 in the manga, thats probably it. Maybe we will see it one day. Also, IV still has 5 Numbers we haven't seen. http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Numbers_Hunter#Numbers_Hunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 yea, i think if Tron uses Numbers that aren't Heraldry this and Heraldry that, they might be some of IV's Numbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jord200 Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 Why did Tron need Numbers in the first place? I know 32 was part of his plan, 33, 6, 15, 9, 88, 40, 8, 69 are the Tron family's own Numbers since they would need some. Maybe Tron has a plan we don't know about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahamut - Envoy of the End Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 [quote name='Jord200' timestamp='1341960711' post='5973442'] Why did Tron need Numbers in the first place? I know 32 was part of his plan, 33, 6, 15, 9, 88, 40, 8, 69 are the Tron family's own Numbers since they would need some. Maybe Tron has a plan we don't know about. [/quote] Ep 60, Tron says something (just as the subtitles come back from the blink) about after the finals, he will have all the Numbers. What his intentions thereon are is unknown other than he wants revenge against Faker, and that presumably means more than getting the Numbers just so he can't have them and then waving them in front of him going "na na na-na nah" (although this being Tron that is possible ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 [quote name='Majestic Star Bahamut' timestamp='1341961322' post='5973455'] Ep 60, Tron says something (just as the subtitles come back from the blink) about after the finals, he will have all the Numbers. What his intentions thereon are is unknown other than he wants revenge against Faker, and that presumably means more than getting the Numbers just so he can't have them and then waving them in front of him going "na na na-na nah" (although this being Tron that is possible ) [/quote] It really wouldn't suprise me if Tron did that. I mean, seeing as he is possibly the most insane character in ZeXal. as to the duel, it does seem kind of lousy on Kaito's part. I'm taking a guess that the next episode is just going to be Kite attacking genome Heiriter, maybe with a Number probably not, Tron using Dyson Spheres effect to fuel Heriter's. Kite then pulls out NGEPD, getting stopped by Tron (or even blackmailed into not attacking.) Tron Overlays for Number 69. its effect wins the game. As for the final, it seems like it will be Number Spam for the whole game. Yuma will probably use Machu Mach, Shark Drake and Utopia, and maybe a cameo by Heroic Champion - Excalibur just so that episode wasn't massively pointless. There will will probably be a field spell effect concerning Numbers. Just for some plan Faker has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 [quote name='HiveNet' timestamp='1342122567' post='5975725'] As for the final, it seems like it will be Number Spam for the whole game. Yuma will probably use Machu Mach, [b]Shark Drake[/b] and Utopia, and maybe a cameo by Heroic Champion - Excalibur just so that episode wasn't massively pointless. There will will probably be a field spell effect concerning Numbers. Just for some plan Faker has. [/quote] except Yuma DOESN'T have Shark Drake (Shark still has it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 [quote name='~Dark Soul~' timestamp='1342123243' post='5975733'] except Yuma DOESN'T have Shark Drake (Shark still has it) [/quote] Damn, that would have been a nice touch. Shark could end up loaning it to Yuma for payback. Doubt it though. Maybe this means something other than Utopia will get used. Or not knowing Yuma... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 [quote name='HiveNet' timestamp='1342129413' post='5975859'] Damn, that would have been a nice touch. Shark could end up loaning it to Yuma for payback. Doubt it though. Maybe this means something other than Utopia will get used. Or not knowing Yuma... [/quote] i don't see Shark loaning it to Yuma for any reason. eventually Yuma will win it of him because Astral needs the memories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahamut - Envoy of the End Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 [quote name='HiveNet' timestamp='1342122567' post='5975725'] It really wouldn't suprise me if Tron did that. I mean, seeing as he is possibly the most insane character in ZeXal. as to the duel, it does seem kind of lousy on Kaito's part. I'm taking a guess that the next episode is just going to be Kite attacking genome Heiriter, maybe with a Number probably not, Tron using Dyson Spheres effect to fuel Heriter's. Kite then pulls out NGEPD, getting stopped by Tron (or even blackmailed into not attacking.) Tron Overlays for Number 69. its effect wins the game. As for the final, it seems like it will be Number Spam for the whole game. Yuma will probably use Machu Mach, Shark Drake and Utopia, and maybe a cameo by Heroic Champion - Excalibur just so that episode wasn't massively pointless. There will will probably be a field spell effect concerning Numbers. Just for some plan Faker has. [/quote] Apparently the final duel is taking place on the 'Sphere Field'; an area shown in the past inhabited by Faker where that weird energy sphere linked up to Astral Worrld/Haruto/whatever was and looks like a lab. Number spam, fingers crossed. Machu Mach would be brillant, but even Leviathan, Volca, Black Mist (just saying... how desperate are you to win Yuma? Desperate alliances to defeat the greater threat?) or anything. *Saves record of post for in three weeks time when we're all massively let down by Yuma using Hope and maybe a bullshit random yet again*. [quote name='~Dark Soul~' timestamp='1342123243' post='5975733'] except Yuma DOESN'T have Shark Drake (Shark still has it) [/quote] Excuse me? Astral DIDN'T absorb Shark Drake? Er...k? That's extremely weird, in the mildest. Was any justfication made for that, or was that just 'cuz plot'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 [quote name='Majestic Star Bahamut' timestamp='1342153575' post='5976263'] Excuse me? Astral DIDN'T absorb Shark Drake? Er...k? That's extremely weird, in the mildest. Was any justfication made for that, or was that just 'cuz plot'? [/quote] no, Astral didn't. I think it was to advance the plot, because Yuma wanted to save Shark from Tron's control. Also i think the reason why Astral didn't absorb Number 32 was because it was Shark that removed it from the field with his own trap card. Now i was gonna use the logic of Astral can only absorb a Number if Yuma destroyed it during the duel, but after looking at all the duels in which Yuma won Numbers, i knew that he didn't destroy Number 83 and Number 19 was destroyed by its own controller using a card effect redirecting Shark's trap towards him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 Just because we didnt see Astral take the Number doesn't mean he didn't. Yuma had taken control of Shark Drake Vice, after all, so there's the possibility that there just wasn't screen time to show it. Take note that Shark was taken away in a helicopter after the Duel. As with IV having more Numbers we haven't seen, I dont think that's true. I think the Numbers IV were seen/implied to have were the Tron Family Numbers. Assuming there were 9... -Number 32 was explicitly shown being taken from the group and given to III. IV later identified Number 32 under Shark's control to be III's. -Number 15 (IV) -Number 40 (IV) -Number 88 (IV) -Number 9 (V) -Number 8 (Tron) -Number 6 (III/Tron) -Number 69 (Tron) -Number 33 (III) Oh look, 9 Numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinolovania Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 You forgot about Machu Mach, though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 [quote name='Pacmanexus' timestamp='1342215714' post='5976855'] You forgot about Machu Mach, though [/quote] i think evilfusion made a typo when typing the list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Sage Posted July 14, 2012 Report Share Posted July 14, 2012 Actually, considering everything, there might be a chance Yuma follows Kaito's lead and uses Machu Mach or Atlanthal if anything, considering Shark Drake is out of the picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jord200 Posted July 14, 2012 Report Share Posted July 14, 2012 I doubt Atlanthal since even III had a hard time controling it, Machu Mach probably. Still rather see Volca, but if Yuma does use Machu Mach, its at least a step in the right direction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted July 14, 2012 Report Share Posted July 14, 2012 I did make a typo. I put 32 down twice instead of 33. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Sage Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 According to wiki, Coat of Arms is going to make an appearance in 64. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 I've seen episodes 61 and 62 subbed now, and it occurred to me: Yuma NOT going for Number C39 for game nearly cost him the Duel. Had he brought out Utopia Ray, neither of Shark's facedowns were any threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1342400563' post='5979442'] I've seen episodes 61 and 62 subbed now, and it occurred to me: Yuma NOT going for Number C39 for game nearly cost him the Duel. Had he brought out Utopia Ray, neither of Shark's facedowns were any threat. [/quote] I have the theory that the writters are deliberately doing this. Most likely Tron doesn't know about Chaos 39 -Tron didn't personally appear when III vs Yuma, and didn't know how III could possibly loose. -Tron payed 3 guys to find out about Yuma's Duel and Yuma was getting owned until he got help out of nowhere. So it's another missed chance. -Yuma only used regular "Hope", and only at the end of the Duel, at Gauche's petition. -Yuma only used regular "Hope" against Ryoga. -When Yuma and Kaito tag dueled, Tron was too busy doing the ritual with Haruto, and wasn't yet pretty much omnipresent as he is now. Dr Faker also doesn't know about C39 since neither Kaito, Gauche, or Droite, have done as much as even bother reporting him to Mr Heartland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 [quote name='Sleepy' timestamp='1342414619' post='5979597'] I have the theory that the writters are deliberately doing this. Most likely Tron doesn't know about Chaos 39 -Tron didn't personally appear when III vs Yuma, and didn't know how III could possibly loose. -Tron payed 3 guys to find out about Yuma's Duel and Yuma was getting owned until he got help out of nowhere. So it's another missed chance. -Yuma only used regular "Hope", and only at the end of the Duel, at Gauche's petition. -Yuma only used regular "Hope" against Ryoga. -When Yuma and Kaito tag dueled, Tron was too busy doing the ritual with Haruto, and wasn't yet pretty much omnipresent as he is now. Dr Faker also doesn't know about C39 since neither Kaito, Gauche, or Droite, have done as much as even bother reporting him to Mr Heartland. [/quote] III, IV, and V all saw C39 in the tag duel. Even if III or IV didn't report it, there's NO way that V didn't. Honestly, I say it's clearly set up for the return of Black Mist, but as a support for Yuma to kill the greater evil. 96 and 69 likely have an important link, so I can see 96 going "f*** IT, TRUCE." I really hope, at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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