Bahamut - Envoy of the End Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 Just watched the subs and am catching up. Duel was unordered as hell, but there wasn't overly complicated effects or huge numbers of cards out at once so it wasn't too confusing. Not sure why we've started summoning things in face up defence again, hopefully thats a one-off for this D-Coaster thing. But it was high pace and intense duel so I enjoyed it. OE Skill Gainer, random as it was, is a kickass card. Can't believe Yuma still held onto his 'mustn't use Numbers against non-Numbers users' against bounty hunters. Just don't wait for Faker and Tron to get in first. Anna is awesome, although I probably think more of her because Kotori is so unbelievably pointless in comparison. Wish she would occasionally do something meaningful. Guess Anna will turn up when she needs to turn up. Gauche also was pretty epic getting involved like he did. Think Tron vs Kaito and Shark vs Yuma semi's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 Kotori's near uselessness seems to be more and more blatant as the series goes on. Before, it was a little contrived that she'd always be around Yuma when something happens, and gives moral support, but come on, she's like...never NOT by him anymore. And she doesn't do anything. Ever. I dont think Yuma consciously decided against using a Number. It's that the random 3 Material Rank 4 was pretty much literally the only thing that could help. He never had 2 monsters out at once so we dont know if he ever considered using a Number, and his only 3 Material Rank 4 is Shock Ruler, which is absolutely useless in this scenario. The times when it's obvious he's anti-Number is in the WDC preliminaries, since he could easily have Summoned a Rank 3 Number (Number 17) and instead went for the Djinns. Which helped him win, yes, but they looked like they came out of nowhere since before that, all his Xyz were Numbers. Where the hell he got that Rank 4, I have no idea, but I dont really care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1335457525' post='5925733'] Kotori's near uselessness seems to be more and more blatant as the series goes on. Before, it was a little contrived that she'd always be around Yuma when something happens, and gives moral support, but come on, she's like...never NOT by him anymore. And she doesn't do anything. Ever.[/quote] Since when did Yugioh heroines start doing stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jord200 Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 What about Aki? I read Crow was orginally supposed to be the last Dark Signer. Hence why its a Condor. This would result in Crow getting killed, and Aki dueling along side Yusei and Jack in the WRPG. As for Kotori, I keep saying it. She's going to get possessed by a Number. Probabky Black Mist. Its already been assumed that the Dijinn came from the Duel Lodge deck. My problem is that they involve music. Yuma's deck involves sounds and syllables. Seems like too much of a coincidence to me. I can see Skill Gainer being part of it though. My guess is this was probably the Duel Lodge deck. Skill Gainer Come Back Xyz Weight Xyz Reflect Kuribolt Voltage Summon Drop Exchange Nitwit Outwit Clean Barrier Clear Force Card Car D Bull Blader Puripreist Taisuke Knight Overlay Owl Bi Tension Darklon Runaway Explosion Trap Reborn Braveheart Attack Invulnerability Gamushara Why on EARTH Yamankia would want to steal this is anyone's guess, though. Sure you got Card Car D, and Skill Gainer but...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Tico~ Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 [quote name='Jord200' timestamp='1335488100' post='5926267'] Skill Gainer Come Back Xyz Weight Xyz Reflect Kuribolt Voltage Summon Drop Exchange Nitwit Outwit Clean Barrier Clear Force Card Car D Bull Blader Puripreist Taisuke Knight Overlay Owl Bi Tension Darklon Runaway Explosion Trap Reborn Braveheart Attack Invulnerability Gamushara Why on EARTH Yamankia would want to steal this is anyone's guess, though. Sure you got Card Car D, and Skill Gainer but...... [/quote] He probably had no idea what the deck actually contained, and only knew that it was supposed to be powerful and all that stuff. Kinda like the Cyberdark Dragon line, what with it being the "secret" deck of the Cyber Style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 [quote name='Jord200' timestamp='1335488100' post='5926267'] What about Aki? I read Crow was orginally supposed to be the last Dark Signer. Hence why its a Condor. This would result in Crow getting killed, and Aki dueling along side Yusei and Jack in the WRPG. [/quote] Tbh I kinda liked Rex Goodwin as the last Dark Signer, that episode is probably the most epic Yu-Gi-Oh episode to date, especially when Goodwin brings out the signers arm and attaches it to himself. Plus the music was godly too... Brb gonna re-watch that episode... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahamut - Envoy of the End Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 *ears burn at the sign of somebody dismissing Akiza as a character* Akiza was awesome, right up until they Kotori-ized her in the second series (how is the expression Kotori-ized when Akiza was about first? I don't know. She's just that infuritatingly pointless). So, we've seen Kaito, Shark, IV, V and Gauche all eliminate jobbers (none of which were those picked out by the class rep and others at the party) plus however Anna knocked out and took the place of and the three Fall Guys are eliminated. So that leaves us with at most 14 left at this stage? Can't imagine the other six will provide anything more than similar snippets of people eliminating them, which somewhat disappointsd me. The whole thing about the WDC was about making Numbers users gather for Kaito, but it appears only a handful of Numbers userrs (ie the main characters) made the finals (odd given the way thier inherited). So what, did Kaito get all of them in the preliminaries? Even if he was taking out people in this snippets who used Thundersparks and Black Corn would satisfy me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathSDelano Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 [quote name='Verz Bahamut' timestamp='1335559080' post='5926911'] *ears burn at the sign of somebody dismissing Akiza as a character* Akiza was awesome, right up until they Kotori-ized her in the second series (how is the expression Kotori-ized when Akiza was about first? I don't know. She's just that infuritatingly pointless). So, we've seen Kaito, Shark, IV, V and Gauche all eliminate jobbers (none of which were those picked out by the class rep and others at the party) plus however Anna knocked out and took the place of and the three Fall Guys are eliminated. So that leaves us with at most 14 left at this stage? Can't imagine the other six will provide anything more than similar snippets of people eliminating them, which somewhat disappointsd me. The whole thing about the WDC was about making Numbers users gather for Kaito, but it appears only a handful of Numbers userrs (ie the main characters) made the finals (odd given the way thier inherited). So what, did Kaito get all of them in the preliminaries? Even if he was taking out people in this snippets who used Thundersparks and Black Corn would satisfy me. [/quote] You mean tea-ized akiza. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahamut - Envoy of the End Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 [quote name='DeathSDelano' timestamp='1335561206' post='5926956'] You mean tea-ized akiza. [/quote] Yeah, I guess. But even then, Tea did [i]occasionally[/i] do something to actually help Yugi and Joey. And she didn't get kidnapped and trapped as often as Alexis (who hasn't been mentioned yet so thought I'd throw her out there. She seemed to flip flap between tough girl and damsel in distress a bit) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathSDelano Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 [quote name='Verz Bahamut' timestamp='1335561365' post='5926962'] Yeah, I guess. But even then, Tea did [i]occasionally[/i] do something to actually help Yugi and Joey. And she didn't get kidnapped and trapped as often as Alexis (who hasn't been mentioned yet so thought I'd throw her out there. She seemed to flip flap between tough girl and damsel in distress a bit) [/quote] at least they didn't make her like rebecca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 While females in Yugioh already tend to get dismissed or side-lined, Aki and Alexis at least used to be Duelists before they got sidelined. Kotori isn't a Duelist, often needs another character to explain a basic mechanic or play, and pretty much only exists to cheer Yuma on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jord200 Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 V seems to use a burn deck. Involves cards cards that invove the underworld Dyson Shere will porbably have a burn effect..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 His Deck seems more focused on preventing damage and inflicting it back. He's been only using Spells and Traps until now, and Tron told him not to play a monster. The hell did Tron do?! How do you destroy 3 huge monsters and wipe out 3 players with LPs between 4000 and 9000 in one move?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jord200 Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 Did anyone else notice they ALL took damage equal to 2 times the ATK of their monster? Master of Oz ATK4200 Random Guy 8400 Rabbidragon ATK2950 Random Guy 2 5900 Behemoth King of all Animals ATK2700 Random Guy 3 5400. Whatever Tron used seems to be able to destroy all monsters and inlfict damage equal too twice their ATK. I have a feeling Tron's cards are all going to be flat out broke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 [quote name='Jord200' timestamp='1335833928' post='5929730'] Did anyone else notice they ALL took damage equal to 2 times the ATK of their monster? Master of Oz ATK4200 Random Guy 8400 Rabbidragon ATK2950 Random Guy 2 5900 Behemoth King of all Animals ATK2700 Random Guy 3 5400. Whatever Tron used seems to be able to destroy all monsters and inlfict damage equal too twice their ATK. I have a feeling Tron's cards are all going to be flat out broke. [/quote] No, I didnt notice that. Good observation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 Tron uses some sort of Super Magic-Cylinder? The thing in the episode that stands out to me the most was V's reaction to taking any sort of damage. Seems he's a little OCD about having "Perfect Life", or something similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 True, V's reaction was very interesting. He got genuinely angry over a mere 400 damage. Only other time he's seemed even slightly angry was when IV seemed to be talking back to Tron, but even then, it was more of a dominance vibe than fury. Well, I'm looking forward to next episode to see Tron vs Droite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Sage Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 Awesome episode. Another thing to note was IV's return to his more calm demeanor and Shark's renewed anger, but they might have been like that in the last few episodes and I just haven't really picked up on it. And yes, Tron vs Droite will probably be amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted May 2, 2012 Report Share Posted May 2, 2012 Guise Apparently, Kaito is 18, and Gauche and Droit are 19. da fawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jord200 Posted May 2, 2012 Report Share Posted May 2, 2012 [quote name='Darkplant - VENOM' timestamp='1335920393' post='5930650'] Guise Apparently, Kaito is 18, and Gauche and Droit are 19. da fawk [/quote] [IMG]http://i849.photobucket.com/albums/ab54/TheBlackPrincess/shot00195.png[/IMG] Gauche and Droite do NOT look 19. Kaito......I knew he was older than Yuma, but I didn't think 18..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahamut - Envoy of the End Posted May 3, 2012 Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 The subbed version is up now guys. Just watched it. Friggin awesome episode. Speaking of Kotori: Anna has taken her place near the end of the opening credits, which makes me happy. V's reaction I think was more because Yuma got his way and saved Gauche (which was incredibly cool thing for him to do) and just having the gall to stand in his way and hurt him. Droite setting herself up to face Tron as she did and having a go at Kaito was pretty awesome as well. Although she is definately NOT 19, and neither is Gauche. That might seem like old age to the typical young Zexal fan but really? Why does everyone in YGO have to be so damn young, younger than me? Is everyone forced to stop duelling when they reach a certain age. Seesh what next, Heartland is only 21? Justifiers her having a crush on Kaito a bit more, but I prefered them as more senior figures in my mind. Tron's little promos are always amazing. Great spot by Jord about the damage thing. Found that Nostefaru chap using Master of Oz a bit weird, but nice to see Rabidragon in the anime being a fresh card. They could have given Garcia and Nostefaru similar things. Watched the promo for next week. Crapped my pants (metaphorically). Not confirmed either way if either uses a Number, so fingers crossed. Looking forward to it. Just everything about the episode was really good. The whole duel coaster thing has been excellent and I applaud the writers for the work in this arc so far. Hope they keep it up through the finals. Also, there is an advert for World Championship 2012 halfway through the version I watched, which is pretty cool too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted May 3, 2012 Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 Gauche and Droite look, sound, dress, and act like they're mid-to-late 20s, NOT 19. Kaito I could see as being around 16, and 18 is fine, I guess, considering he evidently was raising Haruto, but to put him at about the same age as Gauche and Droite seems ridiculous. Because how many 19 year olds would be trusted to be tournament administrators? And again, they don't look, sound, dress, or act like early adults. I wouldnt even bat an eye if they were in their 30s. The age thing was why I was skeptical that Droite would have romantic feelings for Kaito, but evidently, if you shave off 10 years from Droite's likely age and make it canon...oh wait, that happened. I'm pretty sure Tron uses a Number based on the preview. Something about a Number being a memory, while it evidently is showing Droite flashbacks in what could be weaponized somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysty Posted May 3, 2012 Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 Okay, I have to admit, I originally dismissed ZeXal because it looked like a kid's show. Now it sounds pretty epic and I'd like to watch it, but I don't want to go through watching 60 episodes when I've already read the plots of each episode. Can anyone provide a succinct list of episodes that capture the good essence of Zexal yet are still plot-relevant? EDIT: Oh yeah, and can you also list all the episodes that have Cat-chan in it? For some reason, of the few episodes of Zexal I have already watched (like episodes 1, 2, 3, 9, and 24), she's probably my favorite character and I think clearly deserves the spot of lead female friend as opposed to that useless Kotori. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahamut - Envoy of the End Posted May 3, 2012 Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 [quote name='Mysty' timestamp='1336060263' post='5931684'] Okay, I have to admit, I originally dismissed ZeXal because it looked like a kid's show. Now it sounds pretty epic and I'd like to watch it, but I don't want to go through watching 60 episodes when I've already read the plots of each episode. Can anyone provide a succinct list of episodes that capture the good essence of Zexal yet are still plot-relevant? EDIT: Oh yeah, and can you also list all the episodes that have Cat-chan in it? For some reason, of the few episodes of Zexal I have already watched (like episodes 1, 2, 3, 9, and 24), she's probably my favorite character and I think clearly deserves the spot of lead female friend as opposed to that useless Kotori. [/quote] A lot of the early stuff is very much aimed at the younger person, but parts of it with the Tron Family and Shark and Kaito can get very dark at times. This is the first time I've followed a series ep for ep like this and I'm enjoying it. Fusion did a list dozens of pages ago and is offline at the moment, so here's a shortlist of must watches. 1-6 (gets you introduced and in the swing of it) 9 (Cathy debuts) 10-14 (Major plot advancement involving Yuma, Shark and Kaito debuting) 17-20 (More plot development) 22-24 (Finale of the pre-WDC arc, some good battles) 26 (I've never watched the video for this all the way through due to uploading problems, maybe been fixed now. Introduced the Tron Family and Faker's team amongst others) 33-38 (After a lot of awful filler, the action really ratchets up here). 39 (Cathy duel) 40-44 (Major plot stuff, and epicness on Kaito's part) 45 (optional, but saves confusion later regarding Gauche 46-49 (Final of WDC qualifiers, with epic ending) 50 (Start of WDC finals proper) 51-53 (Duel coaster section has been pretty good IMO) Also optional are eps 7-8, 15-16, and 31-32. Depends on if you just want to watch Yuma duel some more and acquire a few Numbers that will never been seen again. Do NOT watch episodes 27-30 or you will want to burn all your cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted May 3, 2012 Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 My opinionated list of the episodes: Season 1 1-6: Must watch episodes. They introduce many characters of importance and the Duels aren't too bad. (7/: Optional. Duel's eh, Fuya is meh (opinions vary) and Number 83 isnt that special. 9: Cat-chan debuts. It's a bit of a WTF episode 10-14: Absolutely must watch. Some of season 1's best episodes and the duels are excellent. (15/16) Not bad, but not fantastic. Worth watching, at least. 17/18: Great episodes 19: Backstory 20: Epic episode (21): The ONLY episode I didn't watch. It is FILLER. I don't care that Obami (or whatever the name is) reappears occasionally, there is so little merit to this episode t save it from being labeled as filler. 22-24: Probably THE best episodes in Season 1. MUST watch. (25): Flashback episode. Little of importance. Skip at will. Season 2: 26: Ignoring the terrible animation (seriously, facial expressions gone wrong), very important episode. (27-30): If you liked the series at all so far, with how almost every episode is at least mildly relevent, these episodes will insult you. No Numbers, Yuma pulls random non-Number Rank 3 Xyz out of nowhere that you never knew he had, the opposing characters are bland or annoying, and nearly all of them have some sort of gimmick or obsession that make the duels dumb. Maybe watch Anna's episode purely for the WTF factor. 31-32: Charlie's episodes are okay, even though the end of the duel is the biggest letdown. 33-36: Good episodes in terms of Duel, characters, depth, etc. Pretty good. 33 is probably the highlight with IV and Number 15. 37-38: Also decent episodes. 39: Cat-chan episode. Kind of meh in my opinion. 40-43: OMG, OMG, GREAT EPISODES! Tag Duel. 44: Aftermath of episode 43. (45): Kind of a filler with Fuya and Gauche. 46-50: Very good episodes. Season 3? (51/52): Meh, didnt care for these too much. 51 is worth watching. 52 is weird. 53: Good episode. Most recent one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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