DARKPLANT RISING Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 [center]My idea is that people who sprinkle ideas widely considered "Horrible at game" by others within the TCG Section should be warned, and if it doesn't stop, temporally banned. Basically, this is a request to ban Shard Of Stardust. Maybe Pika doesn't agree but anyways. Anyone not from there would never know how much the TCG Section has been ruined by the aforemented member. A real pain, and he knows it. By this point he's even started to say he's collecting the 40 neg reps he got for his crimes. He's a failtroll anyways. Let's just do it. The TCG Section's guys will, if all goes smoothly, soon come to the rescue. Supporters(2) Darkplant Hinagiku Katsura [/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tourmaline Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 I'm supporting. If he's really collecting all those neg reps after losing so many it's clearly because he's desperate for attention. I think. Anyways, support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icy Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 Does that mean we can ban you for a stupid suggestion like this one too? Some people blatantly [i]DONT KNOW[/i] and it is not your authority to deem who is unfit for the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tourmaline Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 [quote name='JoshIcy' timestamp='1299477196' post='5057343'] Does that mean we can ban you for a stupid suggestion like this one too? Some people blatantly [i]DONT KNOW[/i] and it is not your authority to deem who is unfit for the board. [/quote] It is possible he was simply using that fellow as an example. Or I could just be supporting a hypocrite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 Stupidity is subjective. There are mistakes, differing opinions, or a stubborn refusal to follow the crowd. All of these can easily be deemed "stupidity". Then there's deliberately being inane or impractical for attention, leading to conflicts, flaming, and otherwise chaos. I don't know if Shard is actually as bad as you say. I'm not a fan of his, I can say that much, but I don't know if what he does is bannable. A pain, yes, maybe a bit attention seeking, but how many TCG section rules does he regularly break? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 The only thing that should be punishable is things such as spam, trolling, and things of the like. Ignorance is not something that deserves punishment. If you want a player who you consider to not be so good at the game to learn, teach them. If you don't, and their posts bother you, then just don't read them. It shouldn't be up to us to decide who is worthy of being in our section or not. On the other hand, there is a large amount of people who spam and flame in all sorts of sections without anything being done. Yet you waste your time on people who you are simply ignorant? That's rather elitist, and ignorant in and of itself. I will say that Shard DOES spam a lot of useless comments, but as far as "stupidity" goes, they don't deserve anything negative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 ...Have you looked at the TCG's rules? [quote] [b]2: Don't be stupid[/b] [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 Ignorance is not stupidity. And anyways, the big matter at hand is whether or not it should be something to get banned over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Crouton Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 [quote name='Darkplant' timestamp='1299475811' post='5057304'] [center]My idea is that people who sprinkle ideas widely considered "Horrible at game" by others within the TCG Section should be warned, and if it doesn't stop, temporally banned. Basically, this is a request to ban Shard Of Stardust. Maybe Pika doesn't agree but anyways. Anyone not from there would never know how much the TCG Section has been ruined by the aforemented member. A real pain, and he knows it. By this point he's even started to say he's collecting the 40 neg reps he got for his crimes. He's a failtroll anyways. Let's just do it. The TCG Section's guys will, if all goes smoothly, soon come to the rescue. Supporters(1) Darkplant [/center] [/quote] So, the idea is... Someone who's only knowledge of the game is from watching the cartoon can make a topic about an okay card, say it's great, give bad combos with bad cards, then Pikaperson, Manjy, Thor, Loki, InconsistentDecks, Seph, Bowtie, Fraz, Armadilloz, Penguin, .Kowalski, Nauske, you, and myself all say his ideas are terrible. Battlestorm and Kingdom Neos post something that doesn't make sense, and Slayer Supreme stands with TC, but it's 14-2. So, TC gets banned for having a bad idea and not understanding why it's bad? Basically, TC learns nothing about the game, Pikaperson has to do extra work as a mod, and TC comes back with another stupid idea to get trolled again. Or does your idea ONLY apply to people who are failtrolling like what Shard was doing last month? Also, Shard's been less of a nuisance lately, and he was only really annoying because people gave him the attention he wanted. I can't support this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 itt: stupidity = lack of knowledge I support the banning of Shard but the "ban bad players" suggestion is a bit too strict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 Well, yes and no Yes, because people like SOS just NEED to be banned. Of course, if someone posts 1 or 2 stupid things, it shouldn't be punished. However, SOS is just stupid. Most of his posts are stupid, he reapeats the same thing 3-4 times (check the thread about Vylon Disigma), argues with EVERYONE, and when he loses the argument, he says that "he was just joking". No, because anyone can make stupid mistakes once or twice. Even good players like Byakk or Manjy. (No, I didn't contradict myself) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehmani Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 [quote name='JoshIcy' timestamp='1299477196' post='5057343'] Does that mean we can ban you for a stupid suggestion like this one too? Some people blatantly [i]DONT KNOW[/i] and it is not your authority to deem who is unfit for the board. [/quote] Yeah, people who DONT KNOW about the game are cool with me. They're funny and they add variety to the section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icy Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 [quote name='Mikhail Tal' timestamp='1299518907' post='5058059'] Yeah, people who DONT KNOW about the game are cool with me. They're funny and they add variety to the section. [/quote] Sarcasm or not, that is true. And with any luck, they'll learn like everyone else here did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.:Raging Man:. Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 I feel that this is too aggressive.If someone doesn't know the game well, it should post without even be warned. If the TCG moderator feels like warning the member is up to him/her.If that member continues,I don't know what the mod thinks,but whatever he/she decides,I agree with. And like you,I support the banning of a persistent stupid member,but not the banning of innocent members that just don't know the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masochistic Joker Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 [quote name='Mikhail Tal' timestamp='1299518907' post='5058059'] Yeah, people who DONT KNOW about the game are cool with me. They're funny and they add variety to the section. [/quote] I've not seen the game actively played since the neo-spacians were started. People like me cannot be blamed for such lack of knowledge due to there being no "This is what is good and this is what is bad" type of thing. Sure, people that still believe the "heart of the cards" s*** to back themselves up then yes I would agree but in this case no. If we were to go with the idea stated then we would be required to have a thread saying what is good with what and such which itself is a bad idea because then everyone runs the same deck, new combos stop being made, then there would no longer be a Your Deck section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CinnamonStar Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 So if people happen to like shitty music or something everyone else has agreed on about being horrible, I can ban them?:S If they make bad cards, even though they're following all the rules? You see, and THIS is the kind of attitude I dislike on YCM. I agree that if you're proud about collecting neg reps, you're often a failtroll, but you're not really helping with this. Also: [quote name='JoshIcy' timestamp='1299477196' post='5057343'] Does that mean we can ban you for a stupid suggestion like this one too? Some people blatantly [i]DONT KNOW[/i] and it is not your authority to deem who is unfit for the board. [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 But stupidity is so funny D: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 [quote name='iHop' timestamp='1299529382' post='5058477'] But stupidity is so funny D: [/quote] .... but too much of it can be annoying, you see the thing is if all you're gonna do on a site is troll around saying stupid stuff and when people are saying that you're stupid and you react to it and post more stupid stuff it can get annoying, but i don't know whether to support this or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 [quote name='iHop' timestamp='1299529382' post='5058477'] But stupidity is so funny D: [/quote] So is Ignorance, Arrogance, and Hypocrisy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catterjune Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 Meh, the idea behind stupidity being moddable is pretty much only for blatantly obvious forms of stupidity (Like... what is listed as examples in the rules of the thing. "Hypothetical" Set discussions, Set discussions in general, Level 5 1650 attack Vanillas, Best/Worst/Favorite Card.) As for being woefully ignorant of the meta and such, I don't find that as astonishingly moddable as you'd all like to think. If some random punk who hadn't played since PTDN showed up and asked why you were all so upset with Judgment Dragon, I don't think it'd be necessary to ban him, just calmly explain why. Granted, expecting YCM to be calm or w/e about anything would probably get me modded by my own rule if I posted this in TCG. > > tl;dr - Being ignorant =/= Being stupid. "SO WHAT SHOULD I DO!?!" I dunno, report it if you REALLY think it's that goddamn offensive. Trolling is also considered presenting false information as true in an attempt to rile up people, just so you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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