Darth Revan of the Sith Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 A long time ago i used to get the Flu a lot to the point where my worst fear was vomit... I became so afraid of getting the flu that before i did something I always asked my mom "will I puke if I do this" every time she said no. And because when you are a kid you always feel your parents are freakin PHD's i believed her without a shadow of a doubt and because there was no doubt in my mind I stopped getting the flu it all just stopped and i havent gotten the flu since that was 9 years ago... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTFauKorean Posted January 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 [quote name='spacespork' timestamp='1296338979' post='4972125'] You really think you can make a thread about the Bible without skeptics coming in and saying their piece? That's like if I made a thread that said "killing babies is fun: NO HATE COMMENTS PLOX" [/quote] haha i know chaotic isnt it? but this was a socially experiment to show the best side of people on the internet, people became very open from what i saw and many people allowed themselves to hear anothers persons ideal no matter how retarded it sounded to them[quote name='JoshIcy' timestamp='1296351853' post='4972620'] Good read, if you can take it for its lessons rather than its words. [/quote] hear hear proverbs is a good base for morals[quote name='Halubaris Maphotika' timestamp='1296356512' post='4972762'] A long time ago i used to get the Flu a lot to the point where my worst fear was vomit... I became so afraid of getting the flu that before i did something I always asked my mom "will I puke if I do this" every time she said no. And because when you are a kid you always feel your parents are freakin PHD's i believed her without a shadow of a doubt and because there was no doubt in my mind I stopped getting the flu it all just stopped and i havent gotten the flu since that was 9 years ago... [/quote] its a korean morale that god = parents and ansestory im not gonna go into detail why but cool story bro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cakey Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 [quote name='JoshIcy' timestamp='1296351853' post='4972620'] It's more motivating than most things today, and is less restricting than you give it for. Seldom are anything in the bible considered Law, even by the Catholic Religion. In fact, most of the things you hear are primarily fact or by a single group of radical individuals who ripped it out of context. And those people were never "right"/sane to begin with so you cannot fault the book. Nor has it changed more than certain recipes based on flavor. Again, going back to the whole guideline/motivation over laws and belief factor. It's lovely to place a blame on the easiest thing though isn't it? Good read, if you can take it for its lessons rather than its words. [/quote] [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PK7P7uZFf5o"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PK7P7uZFf5o[/url] At a certain point, isn't it easier to write down the lessons rather than making people realize that, "And God made all the unbelievers gay and then punished them for being gay," [i]actually[/i] means, "There's nothing wrong with being gay. Also, depending on which denomination you're in, gay marriage is okay. Jury's still out on that one. Just wait a few popes and the Catholics will sort it out. The other guys...who knows?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTFauKorean Posted January 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 [quote name='Dr. Cakey' timestamp='1296409081' post='4974149'] [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PK7P7uZFf5o"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PK7P7uZFf5o[/url] At a certain point, isn't it easier to write down the lessons rather than making people realize that, "And God made all the unbelievers gay and then punished them for being gay," [i]actually[/i] means, "There's nothing wrong with being gay. Also, depending on which denomination you're in, gay marriage is okay. Jury's still out on that one. Just wait a few popes and the Catholics will sort it out. The other guys...who knows?" [/quote] yeah but sounding arcane makes things totally legit... you know how gulible people can get =D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icy Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 [quote name='Dr. Cakey' timestamp='1296409081' post='4974149'] [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PK7P7uZFf5o"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PK7P7uZFf5o[/url] At a certain point, isn't it easier to write down the lessons rather than making people realize that, "And God made all the unbelievers gay and then punished them for being gay," [i]actually[/i] means, "There's nothing wrong with being gay. Also, depending on which denomination you're in, gay marriage is okay. Jury's still out on that one. Just wait a few popes and the Catholics will sort it out. The other guys...who knows?" [/quote] It never states that gays are bad, that's rather just a personalized belief by different sects; ie: Individual people. Not the book itself, so I fail to understand. Usually your priest will be happy to explain it to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gospel. Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 [quote name='Lewk' timestamp='1295891466' post='4957442'] inb4 Atheist(s) who think their opinions are facts and refuse to shut up and demand factual evidence at every instant that anything slightly religious comes into a conversation. [spoiler=Oh]And I'm Agnostic[/spoiler] [i]EDIT: Oh wait, it appears I'm too late...[/i] [/quote] I assume you are christian? >.> Athiests pretty much (puttng it simply) don't believe in God and/or Gods. Not necessarilly someone who despises religion such as an Infidel. I am Athiestic Agnostic. What does that mean mumy? It means that I don't believe he exists but if he does, that's perfectly fine by me. Pretty much. To me, trying to prove or disprove the existence of God is beyond human comprehension. Christianity "puts what you've got right on the table, right infront of you." Pretty much like me saying: "This is what you've got and that's that." It doesnt let me challenge what I'm being taught which is why so many people hte christianity. Someone is taught that something is asolutely possitively this way and cannot be denied, cannot be disproven. 10 years later when he studies up on it, he finds out that it can be disproven. He thinks that he was lied to. He now thinks that everything he was taght was a lie and now, he hates chistianity and religion in general because he's fearful of the validity of the teachings of other cultures. Take Buddha for instance. Buddha pretty much wanted people to challenge his teachings. He didn't want people to believe a word he said until they challenged him so that you know what's truth and what's fiction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTFauKorean Posted February 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2011 [quote name='Horrific' timestamp='1296486437' post='4976658'] I assume you are christian? >.> Athiests pretty much (puttng it simply) don't believe in God and/or Gods. Not necessarilly someone who despises religion such as an Infidel. I am Athiestic Agnostic. What does that mean mumy? It means that I don't believe he exists but if he does, that's perfectly fine by me. Pretty much. To me, trying to prove or disprove the existence of God is beyond human comprehension. Christianity "puts what you've got right on the table, right infront of you." Pretty much like me saying: "This is what you've got and that's that." It doesnt let me challenge what I'm being taught which is why so many people hte christianity. Someone is taught that something is asolutely possitively this way and cannot be denied, cannot be disproven. 10 years later when he studies up on it, he finds out that it can be disproven. He thinks that he was lied to. He now thinks that everything he was taght was a lie and now, he hates chistianity and religion in general because he's fearful of the validity of the teachings of other cultures. Take Buddha for instance. Buddha pretty much wanted people to challenge his teachings. He didn't want people to believe a word he said until they challenged him so that you know what's truth and what's fiction. [/quote] hooray for a leason on atheism now we can all band together to [s]obliterate[/s] convert scientology!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiyo Posted February 1, 2011 Report Share Posted February 1, 2011 I always look at Christianity as a way to motivate people. Sure, you can discount God and Jesus and whatever as mumbo-jumbo, but religion is a good way to encourage things like honesty, self-control, peace, and so on. I mean, look at how many people are able to keep hope and faith by turning to their religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted February 1, 2011 Report Share Posted February 1, 2011 I believe Religious texts can open the door to understanding and can tell us about how to achieve Apotheosis... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 [quote name='JoshIcy' timestamp='1296445227' post='4975733'] It never states that gays are bad, that's rather just a personalized belief by different sects; ie: Individual people. Not the book itself, so I fail to understand. Usually your priest will be happy to explain it to you. [/quote] Lev. 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination." Lev. 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them" 1 Cor. 6:9-10, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God." [quote name='Kiyo' timestamp='1296598506' post='4979440'] I always look at Christianity as a way to motivate people. Sure, you can discount God and Jesus and whatever as mumbo-jumbo, but religion is a good way to encourage things like honesty, self-control, peace, and so on. I mean, look at how many people are able to keep hope and faith by turning to their religion. [/quote] I agree entirely, religion is a motivational tool. Too bad that religion is, for the most part, funneling false beliefs into people. Religion, when it was first created, may have been used as a system of hope and a system of control. Over the years, it has been corrupted and turned into a useless, baseless societal system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTFauKorean Posted February 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 [quote name='Dark' timestamp='1296606513' post='4979885'] I agree entirely, religion is a motivational tool. Too bad that religion is, for the most part, funneling false beliefs into people. Religion, when it was first created, may have been used as a system of hope and a system of control. Over the years, it has been corrupted and turned into a useless, baseless societal system. [/quote] reminds me of the movie the book of eli, i guess this kind of proves or condradicts (w/e ones better) that religion like media, or it is a form of media is a international entity that controls the minds of the masses. the god of abraham is the one that caused the biggest problems aint it? soooooo this kind of made me think of an idiots logic that sounds a bit stupid but can go into some detail... the holy bible = evil knowledge? idk giveme a hint after we go through this i wanna get into detail bout the all famous david and goliath probably the most entertainment in that book for me, at least next to when king daniel totally boned this chick and totally redemed himself.... ill get to that later too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icy Posted February 5, 2011 Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 [quote name='Dark' timestamp='1296606513' post='4979885'] Lev. 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination." Lev. 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them" 1 Cor. 6:9-10, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God." [/quote] I stand corrected and all that. I just find it a little hard to believe that homosexuality would be condemned by the bible given that at the time it was written homosexuality was very common. Eeeeeh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted February 5, 2011 Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 Was leviticus New or Old testament...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted February 5, 2011 Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 [quote name='Halubaris Maphotika' timestamp='1296873430' post='4988327'] Was leviticus New or Old testament...? [/quote] Old, why do you ask? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted February 5, 2011 Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 just wondering... *smirk* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 [quote name='JoshIcy' timestamp='1296873296' post='4988320'] I stand corrected and all that. I just find it a little hard to believe that homosexuality would be condemned by the bible given that at the time it was written homosexuality was very common. Eeeeeh... [/quote] You didn't tell me that I used an incorrect version of the Bible or that I incorrectly interpretted the passages. You are a horrible Christian. <___< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 AH HA! I new it it was incorrect that means that if leviticus was old testament then... Hey Dark what is the correct version of those passages for Leviticus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 [quote name='Halubaris Maphotika' timestamp='1297015350' post='4993123'] AH HA! I new it it was incorrect that means that if leviticus was old testament then... Hey Dark what is the correct version of those passages for Leviticus? [/quote] I don't think you understood. I was saying that most Christians would make up some bullshit excuse to defend their book, [i]such as[/i] claiming I used an incorrect version of the Bible. I believe I used the King James version, I'm not entirely sure, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 hmmmmmmm... OK then.... Looks like ill have to do more research... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raine Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 The only true version of the bible would be the one written at the Council of Nicaea of coarse, if you actually found a 1700 year old book and could read Latin I would give you kudos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 OF COURSE! Thats it! oi how could I have been so stupid.... It all makes sense now... (to me)... I wouldnt say the King James Version is comepletely incorrect inb4itmakesmoresensethantheoriginal but i think i would have to look at older texts to find original truth... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raine Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 The King James bible is the finished version of John Wycliffe's translation of the bible from Latin to English made around 1400. The catholic church made a few changes to the original text from its creation in 300 AD onward but due to it not being widely made and read only by priests it, the changes were usually just a game of telephone. Please keep in mind that the council made the bible from multiple texts but choose only a select few to actually be in the bible for example there were other chapters that descibed Adam and Eve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 Yes I already knew that... Which is exactly why im going to take a look at the gospels that didnt make the cut... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icy Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 [quote name='Dark' timestamp='1296965254' post='4991706'] You didn't tell me that I used an incorrect version of the Bible or that I incorrectly interpretted the passages. You are a horrible Christian. <___< [/quote] *marks it down to actually get a copy of the version of the bible my family reads* <.< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTFauKorean Posted February 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 alright so halu made a topic suggestion the gospel of mary, i hod no idea what it was about but i did really small reearch on it like 1 hour but this is what i think about it, also taking a look at a suggested noetic sciences i dont feel like it is old testimate material altough it does include event based on the same line of religion, being recorded in greek literature and not hebrew it is still it's roots but it has to little conection with old hebrew and the blood lines of abraham or w/e, if of course these event are true but you know me i take none of these scriptures literally nor seriously unless its proverbs so tell me watcha think guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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