Phantom Roxas Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 I couldn't recall if either the power of the Digital World was given to him, or if it was simply used to break the seal and he was already insanely powerful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 I couldn't recall if either the power of the Digital World was given to him, or if it was simply used to break the seal and he was already insanely powerful. Erasing the world around him was all it took to break the seal. Either that, or he was injected with the extra power he needed to break it, making him absurdly powerful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexev Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 The thing is, Lucifer and Satan are very different. Satan is just an incredibly powerful villian, Lucifer was a angel fallen from grace, the only character who can look evil but still put up a convincing show of being a good guy until then was Lucemon. Imagine if you will, Lucemon's role being replaced by Mephhistomon. I can't be the only person who would not think that him being evil was obvious. Lucemon's WASN'T unless you knew the show, it was a callback spoiler for the fans as well as the best fitting digimon for the show. GuardiAngemon was used but as someone obsessed with law not as a person necessarily evil. He represented Lawful Stupid, but a person that obsessed with law would have made a bad villian once he got outvoted as he would have just stepped down. They got to use the pure evil darkness that is such a key plot point now that they had someone who wanted power over order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydra of Ages Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 Alright, I think we (or at least I) lost pulse of this argument somewhere along the line, so I'm just going to drop it before I start bickering for the sake of bickering. The thing is, Lucifer and Satan are very different. Satan is just an incredibly powerful villian, Lucifer was a angel fallen from grace, Oi Vey, religious discussion! I love this part! Now, technically, both of these are incorrect; they're actually titles for positions in the Angelic Hierarchy. Satan is the opposer, whose' duty is to test humanity's faith in God; he's a very important angel in Hebrew literature, but not exactly evil, and in fact rules over a dimension of Heaven (the 5th). His true name is Samael, and he's often composited with Asrael, who is God's Enforcer; the angel of death and destruction. Occasionally, Samael and Asrael are depicted in new-age works and modernist religions as fallen angels in their own right, who eventually lost faith in God due to the nature of their work; in fact, this is the exact source of Baguramon's backstory, though for some reason they equate him with the Archangel Gabriel (who has never been depicted as Fallen in any works I know of). Lucifer, on the other hand, is a different matter entirely. The word was originally used as a title, meaning 'Bright One' or 'Morning Star', and was given to the most pure/greatest of God's Angels, though we never learn the true name of the original Lucifer (New Age sources tend to quote Helel as it; however, this is just 'Morning Star' translated into Hebrew). The story goes that Lucifer eventually questioned God's Will for some reason (sources vary; some state that Lucifer considered himself God's Equal, whereas others imply that he disagreed with His creation and/or treatment of Humanity. At least one source had depicted Lucifier being upset that God ordered Satan to trick humanity into defying His will and getting thrown out of Eden), and was thrown out of heaven by the Archangel Michael, who succeeded him as Lucifer. Jesus the Savior has also been referred to as the Morning Star (or, rather, as Helel), but has never been dubbed Lucifer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barian Warlord Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 Wow you guess really up the posting when I'm not looking, here is something I've been thinking of for a while now if a holy digimon can fall does that mean a dark digimon can rise you know if they pay of their sins or something because if they can't I think it is lame. Also if I remember correctly Saten is a three headed dragon in hell that chews up the worse sinners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 Wow you guess really up the posting when I'm not looking, here is something I've been thinking of for a while now if a holy digimon can fall does that mean a dark digimon can rise you know if they pay of their sins or something because if they can't I think it is lame. Also if I remember correctly Saten is a three headed dragon in hell that chews up the worse sinners.Well, Ogudomon can "atone" for every sin in the digital world, soooo... And I'm pretty sure that, if that is ever a description, it's from Dante's writings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydra of Ages Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 Also if I remember correctly Saten is a three headed dragon in hell that chews up the worse sinners. That's from Dante's self-insert Bible fanfiction. Though I admit his description of it is pretty metal. Also, the sinners whose' heads he chews on never made any sense of me. Judas, fine, I can understand that; but Caesar's killers? Really? Betrayal's a sin and all, but I somehow doubt God kept the dictator of Rome in the same respect as Jesus. Wow you guess really up the posting when I'm not looking, here is something I've been thinking of for a while now if a holy digimon can fall does that mean a dark digimon can rise you know if they pay of their sins or something because if they can't I think it is lame. Gargoylemon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 Alright, I think we (or at least I) lost pulse of this argument somewhere along the line, so I'm just going to drop it before I start bickering for the sake of bickering. Agreed. I'll try and leave the topic of Lucemon alone until I get to the Heaven Zone arc in my recaps, assuming I ever start those. I think Bagramon is equated to Gabriel is because "Bagra" is some distorted. And I'm pretty sure that, if that is ever a description, it's from Dante's writings. Yes, it's from the Divine Comedy, but he wasn't depicted as a dragon, although the multiple heads and wings are accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted April 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 Murmukusmon could've been added to the list, as he somehow possesses the abilities to masquerade around as any angel type; hell, he could've even framed SlashAngemon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barian Warlord Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 The reason for Brutos being on that list is because he was a traitor and betraying someone is one of the bigger sins or at least it was once upon a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydra of Ages Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 The reason for Brutos being on that list is because he was a traitor and betraying someone is one of the bigger sins or at least it was once upon a time. Except no other traitor in the world was given the personal treatment of being chewed by the devil himself, aside from Judas. Dante was basically saying that betraying and killing Caesar, the dictator of Rome, was a crime worthy of equal punishment to selling out the Son of God for a couple silvers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 Hydra, is there any particular reason keeping you from posting at the Mission? Because Broken's getting impatient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydra of Ages Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 Figured Lovely should take a turn. I'll get to it a little later today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexev Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 Except no other traitor in the world was given the personal treatment of being chewed by the devil himself, aside from Judas. Dante was basically saying that betraying and killing Caesar, the dictator of Rome, was a crime worthy of equal punishment to selling out the Son of God for a couple silvers.Dante liked Rome what can you say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 I don't know how did I come across this. What I do know is that it made my day. [spoiler=Plot hole, you say?] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundervlux Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 I don't know how did I come across this. What I do know is that it made my day. [spoiler=Plot hole, you say?] OMG that's hilarious! Whoever made that was an absolute genius! I can't stop laughing! XD Also, since "the mission" has been mentioned, I was wondering if had any idea of just when it'll be all over with and we can get back to the hunts? Or is this the start of this DigiQuartz's plot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydra of Ages Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 I don't know how did I come across this. What I do know is that it made my day. [spoiler=Plot hole, you say?] Image looks broken from what I'm getting. Got an alternate source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 Image looks broken from what I'm getting. Got an alternate source? Got it from tinypic now. Hopefully it's fixed~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydra of Ages Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 Ah. See Airu? This is why you don't use abominations like Parasimon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted April 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 Parasimon annoyed me due to having his mouth on his ass, it's just, annoying. Still, here's a good topic: Given how Hunter's latest ep ended, would this mean an end to the XW series and thus onwards to a new season; or could it mean that maybe there is still more to that area beyond the Hunt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted April 6, 2012 Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 I only vaguely followed the XW and Hunters, but between looking some stuff up and talking with Monkey, I feel that they could very well make a 3rd season to tie everything up. I'd rather it move on, though. I just feel the further they go with a single storyline, the more it falls apart, given how Hunters and 02 turned out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted April 6, 2012 Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 I feel they could wrap everything up with a Movie or a few OVAs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted April 6, 2012 Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 Saint Saiya Omega has taken the timeslot, so I wouldn't expect more Digimon until that series runs its course. I think that by then it would have been too long since Young Hunters, so they would have to start fresh. I think a movie could serve as a proper finale, but I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted April 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 Indeed, and now, Black has too joined the fold of Hunters, as yet another Tank, yay, yay, and such. LZ, he's going to need a XL, you know what to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexev Posted April 6, 2012 Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 Demidevi? Really Broken, hopw cliched can you get for Black? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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