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The Lancer is traditionally the person who contrasts with the Hero, but is also generally calm if the hero is hyperactive. Although Takato and Henry don't quite fit that definition, they're close enough to count, but Rika's personality does make her more of a Lancer to Rika than Henry, but her status as the main girl of the team makes her The Chick.

 

For Adventure, it would be Sora. Not sure who it would be for 02. Maybe Yolei, because she's new to the main cast, but I would prefer Kari because he's an existing character.

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Hero: Marcus

Lancer: Thomos

Chick: Yoshino (Could also be Lancer for the first part since she was Marcus' only teamate for a while)

Other: That little kid whom I can't remember the name of.

 

Keenan/Ikuto would be registered as The Sixth Ranger (no it doesn't matter he wasn't actually the sixth, it's just a name), but otherwise yeah, you're fine.

 

Roxas, assuming you're going by the TV tropes definition, Rika wouldn't be even close to qualifying as the Chick; she's more of The Big Guy, given her combat skill. Jeri might qualify as a Chick, now that I think about it.

 

In any case, I'm not terribly upset about Xros Wars bringing in old villain species and making chumps out of them. It comes off to me more as a reference to the previous seasons, and a wink at old fans, more than it does actual recycling; NeoVamdemon's death basically proved that. And I dunno, I like those little nods, even if they don't make a lick of sense sometimes.

 

But yeah, Marcus/Masaru better punch somebody. In the face. Hopefully Tagiru.

 

And I kinda want to see a fight between the two Agumons.

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So the chick would be Mimi and the Lancer Sora?

 

Between the two of them, yes, but out of the entire team, Matt is the Lancer to Tai.

 

Roxas, assuming you're going by the TV tropes definition, Rika wouldn't be even close to qualifying as the Chick; she's more of The Big Guy, given her combat skill. Jeri might qualify as a Chick, now that I think about it.

 

Sounds about right, but I was thinking of the main trio, since we were focusing solely on Takuya, Kouji, and Zoe.

 

In any case, I'm not terribly upset about Xros Wars bringing in old villain species and making chumps out of them. It comes off to me more as a reference to the previous seasons, and a wink at old fans, more than it does actual recycling; NeoVamdemon's death basically proved that. And I dunno, I like those little nods, even if they don't make a lick of sense sometimes.

 

Except I can accept NeoVamdemon, because he was just a subspecies. It's using the exact same Digimon that I have a problem with.

 

But yeah, Marcus/Masaru better punch somebody. In the face. Hopefully Tagiru.

 

Tagiru is more likely to get punched than Davis, but I think anyone who hates Marcus will find him redeemed if he does punch Tagiru. Until I catch up on the absurd amount of monster of the week filler episodes, there is no way that you can convince me that Tagiru is a good character.

 

And I kinda want to see a fight between the two Agumons.

 

This.

 

 

New V-Jump issue.

 

[spoiler=Highlights include:]

• funk YEAH GALLANTMON!

• Susanoomon somehow appears, even though Takuya would normally only be capable of using Aldamon.

• Nene is still being turned into a sex symbol, but now she's some kind of angel.

• Bagramon continues to be an actual character rather than the hypocritical embodiment of Orcus on His Throne.

 

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You have no idea. It's really depressing what they did to her. Why did making Bagramon a good character have to come at the consequence of making Nene the artist's excuse for wanting to draw hentai as best as he could? Then again, the most he does is just draw Nene in very revealing clothing, and even made her naked when she was a part of Moon=Millenniummon.

 

Not sure if the characterization of DarkKnightmon was better or worse than he was in the anime. All I know is that he becomes increasingly demonic, which is awesome, and he even managed to Xros Blastmon and Lilithmon with him to make his Darkness Mode. Sadly, he apparently has an even more anticlimactic death when he's Xrossed with Millenniummon to make ZeedMillenniummon.

 

So does that mean I can say that Digimon ruined Twilight? Because I totally want to, as much as it pains me to.

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I'm complaining about the manga, actually. Definitely watch the manga, although as you can surmise from what's been said, the second season isn't as good.

 

Could people think of Digimon villains worse than Bagramon? I mean, really important villains. Devimon and Etemon are the only ones I can think of. Characters like Mummymon don't count, because he was just a lackey.

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So its like Bakugan where the first season RULED and went straight down hill after?

 

Nope, sorry. Bakugan was never good. I watched it the entire way though, just to be sure.

 

Then again, the most he does is just draw Nene in very revealing clothing, and even made her naked when she was a part of Moon=Millenniummon.

 

Digimon has a time-honoured tradition of removing clothing when humans merge with Digimon.

 

 

Could people think of Digimon villains worse than Bagramon? I mean, really important villains. Devimon and Etemon are the only ones I can think of. Characters like Mummymon don't count, because he was just a lackey.

 

Bagramon wasn't terrible. He was boring as all hell, but at least he came off as threatening when he was fighting. My main issue with him is that they could have done waaay more with him, especially considering how well they handled some of the other main villains in the show. I'm not a DarkKnightmon fanboy, but that guy had style for most of the show. Lilithmon is probably the ONLY comic-relief lacky villain in Digimon history I've actually considered kind of threatening (she outright murdered an entire cabal using brainwashing), and it's no coincidence that her ultimate destruction requires a Heroic Sacrifice from one of the heroes. Blastmon is quite literally the funniest thing in digimon history, and also kind of a cool villain- the guy appeared to be pretty frickin' indestructible to make up for his stupidity.

 

Apocalymon was pretty terrible, considering he came from literally nowhere just to be a final boss and didn't even have a particularly interesting fight sequence to go with it. His backstory is also literally the most cliche thing I've ever heard.

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I'm complaining about the manga, actually. Definitely watch the manga, although as you can surmise from what's been said, the second season isn't as good.

 

Could people think of Digimon villains worse than Bagramon? I mean, really important villains. Devimon and Etemon are the only ones I can think of. Characters like Mummymon don't count, because he was just a lackey.

Etemon was cool, he was like a evil Elvis.

 

Apocalymon was pretty terrible, considering he came from literally nowhere just to be a final boss and didn't even have a particularly interesting fight sequence to go with it. His backstory is also literally the most cliche thing I've ever heard.

He HAD A BACKSTORY?

 

Never noticed.

 

So my least favorite were... lets see.

 

IceDevimon from Frontier in terms of episode villians. (he is supposed to rival Cherubimon, shows up once, and then goes bye bye then is never even spoken of again, what the f*** was with that episode?).

 

Least favorite in the first series... Hmm weren't etemon and Devimon all working for Myotis? Then I guess I didn't like... Mugendramon? He kinda anticlimaxed.

 

Second season is DEFINITLY Myotismon. He just seemed kinda random, that their was an evil possesing mr program guy, yeah you can buy that but why was it Myotismon, he was dead.

TWICE.

He;s not NekoMyotismon, he shouldn't have that many lives, why not make it someone new, like Daemon, Daemon was cool, use him.

 

Tamers I didn't see much of but I chooooose the angry chicken. MAinly because I don't remenber why Mr Bird was so pissy and thus can't really sympathise with zhuqai..zhu... chicken guy.

 

Frontier is Duskmon, I just thought the concept was cliche. The guy it turns out to be I liked fine after the heel face turn but the generic badass evil racer x? Seen it.

 

Um Savers I didn't like... um... never saw this show... Jesus.

 

I'm Jewish so he's not my saver.

 

Yeah.

 

Um Xros I didn't like... actually I have no beef with Bagra yet as he didn't really do anything yet, so I guess NeoMyotismon kinda pushed the line a bit too far for my tastes when his death more or less involved GENOCIDE.

 

For some odd reason none of the vids after his worked either.

 

 

I probbably did not pick the popular choices for worst villians did I?

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Oh, I KNOW XW Lucemon was dissapointing, I SAID it was dissapointing. Heaven Zone had SOOOO much potential; they could have totally subverted everyone's expectations with a truely good Lucemon, but they just went with 'LOL EVULZ'. GRAH, I hated it so much for that. Seriously, Lucemon's best move was blocked and reflected by Shoutmon, not X2 or X4, plain Shoutmon. W! T! F!

 

It was as dissapointing as the 2 second death of the Mercurymon from Disc Zone, who was, from what I saw, blown away with one attack. If that was Frontier Mercurymon he would've kicked MetalGreymon's ass.

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[spoiler=Wall of text.]@Hydra: I only watched the first season of Bakugan, and it was alright, but I've heard that the subsequent seasons are worse. I'll admit that I love the opening theme for the second half of the first season.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoQiAbQmDF8

 

...Wait a minute, Dan's voice.

 

Marina_Inoue_seiyū.jpg

 

Tagiru was in this show! Although apparently she voiced plenty of characters, none of which were Dan.

 

Wait, she was Yoko. Okay, that's good.

 

I guess the fact that you can actually see Nene outside the fusion is what bothers me.

 

I grew to be fed up with how boring Bagramon was, but since it's the latest season, I can remember it more clearly than the rest. Apocalymon is definitely a terrible villain, although apparently that was because the writers used up too many episodes, and there were plans to flesh out his character. As for backstory, wasn't that expanded upon in the WonderSwan games where Millenniummon somehow created him?

 

I don't see how "created from the dead data of Digimon who couldn't evolve" is the most clichéd thing ever. His fight was definitely bad, but so was the battle with DarknessBagramon. Shoutmon X7 Superior Mode's Xrossing sequence is incredibly epic, but the comparatively short length of the actual battle was just pathetic.

 

@Nexev: Etemon was Elvis only the dub, and while I understand it, he's still hard to take seriously.

 

Apparently Machinedramon is his own grandfather or something.

 

IceDevimon was definitely filler. Did Bokomon actually say IceDevimon rivals Cherubimon, or was that IceDevimon being arrogant? I'll have to agree he was an awful "monster of the week", if only due to how horribly placed his appearance was.

 

Devimon, Etemon, and Myotismon all worked separately, although apparently Apocalymon was behind all of them. Machinedramon was awesome, so his death doesn't make him any worse of a villain to me.

 

Daemon was cool, but what did his arc actually achieve? At least he was the villain of the V-Tamer manga, but his anime appearance should have meant more.

 

I think Zhuqiaomon just wanted to defeat the D-Reaper, but since I watched his battle on JesuOtaku's stream a while ago, people pointed out he sides with the kids way too easily considering how he was built up to be the main antagonist for such a long time.

 

The problem with Bagramon is precisely that he doesn't really do anything until the last few episodes. Seriously, until then, the only times we see him actually standing are either through flashbacks (Though I might be mistaken about that part) and when DarkKnightmon casts an illusion.

 

Not really. Most of them were important enough, aside from IceDevimon, and even then you pointed him out as an exception and picked Duskmon.

 

@Broken: That's why you shouldn't get too excited when a classic villain appears. I just watched the trailer LZ posted (The Boxmon are adorable), and since it wasn't subtitled, I didn't get the impression that the episode was about Yuu, so chances are that Tagiru will catch Sakkakumon.

 

@LZ: Apparently some people are working on the manga.

 

MetalEtemon was just unnecessary.

 

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