Hydra of Ages Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 The way I see it, Marcus's DigiSoul amplified his strength based on how pissed he was, and as for Frontier, they were Digimon at the time. Well, yeah. What I meant was they were killing living things with their bare hands- Marcus just dodges responsibility, as his season does have reincarnation... though the process also kills off the old personality (except in certain cases), so you could still say he's murdering them. I forget if fronteir had reincarnation or not... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstone Dresden Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 [spoiler=XW manga chapter 7 pictures]Look at DarkKnightmon's left arm. That sh*t better not grow back. And here's Sparrowmon AB (AfterBurner) Not bad. Sweet Giant Robot Donkey Kong Jesus what the F*CK is that?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Lilithmon, what have you wrought?! And to get THAT out of your mind, look at Sparrowmon in this pic. Hydra, did you forget about Patamon, Salamon, and Lopmon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydra of Ages Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 [spoiler=XW manga chapter 7 pictures]Look at DarkKnightmon's left arm. That sh*t better not grow back. And here's Sparrowmon AB (AfterBurner) Not bad. Sweet Giant Robot Donkey Kong Jesus what the F*CK is that?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Lilithmon, what have you wrought?! And to get THAT out of your mind, look at Sparrowmon in this pic. Hydra, did you forget about Patamon, Salamon, and Lopmon? Yes. Also, why are their diagrams from the latest Call of Cthulhu player's manual in our manga screens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstone Dresden Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 Because Lilithmon made that thing... or is that thing... or fused that thing... Lilithmon did something, that thing exists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydra of Ages Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 And remind me, this is supposed to be a children's show, right? God the creators must really hate kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
//Zeromaru// Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 The writers always throw in something that really shouldn't be there. Such as VenomMyotismon's crotch monster. That... thing, is just the latest in a long line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstone Dresden Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 The manga is NOT the anime though. For example, Nene's brother Yuu is Nene's sister Kotone in the manga. And she's a general but was put in a coma so Nene made a deal with DarkKnightmon so he could use the two sisters and either Taiki or Kiriha for a spell thingy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydra of Ages Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 The manga is NOT the anime though. For example, Nene's brother Yuu is Nene's sister Kotone in the manga. And she's a general but was put in a coma so Nene made a deal with DarkKnightmon so he could use the two sisters and either Taiki or Kiriha for a spell thingy. Fair enough. I always wonder about Mangas like this- are they actually briefed on the plot of the show, or do the developers just hand them pencils, tell them to 'write something', and get the details wrong largely because they were never told the details? Or do they just go on tangents because they feel like it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted February 5, 2011 Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 By Bagramon's beard, what in blazes is that monstrosity? I did consider rewriting 02, but due to conflicting interests with my friend, I decided it would be best to ask elsewhere: Would you give a funk if the hero's main Digimon was not a lizard? I want to make T.K. the main character, but my friend says that this should only be done if I give Patamon a random lizard form. I've tried to use the logic "It's my story, so I can do whatever I want" and that I have no reason to completely disregard the Angemon line and not give Patamon Seraphimon just for this purpose. I've also noticed that there are three ways a Digimon can qualify for hero. 1) Their name must begin with "Ta-", 2) Their Digimon partner must be a lizard. In Takuya's case, BurningGreymon counted. 3) They have goggles. Yes, Davis did fit 2 and 3 while T.K. only fit 1, at least he fit something. This presents another question: Should T.K. have been the leader of the 02 team, or was Davis a good choice for the leader. Yes, that is a rhetorical question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydra of Ages Posted February 5, 2011 Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 By Bagramon's beard, what in blazes is that monstrosity? I did consider rewriting 02, but due to conflicting interests with my friend, I decided it would be best to ask elsewhere: Would you give a f*** if the hero's main Digimon was not a lizard? I want to make T.K. the main character, but my friend says that this should only be done if I give Patamon a random lizard form. I've tried to use the logic "It's my story, so I can do whatever I want" and that I have no reason to completely disregard the Angemon line and not give Patamon Seraphimon just for this purpose. I've also noticed that there are three ways a Digimon can qualify for hero. 1) Their name must begin with "Ta-", 2) Their Digimon partner must be a lizard. In Takuya's case, BurningGreymon counted. 3) They have goggles. Yes, Davis did fit 2 and 3 while T.K. only fit 1, at least he fit something. This presents another question: Should T.K. have been the leader of the 02 team, or was Davis a good choice for the leader. Yes, that is a rhetorical question. TK WAS the leader of 02. It only looked like Davis was because he got all the cool evolutionary levels and TK was jipped out of a second Digimental. Davis is never a good choice for anything- Even MARCUS was more intelligent than he was. And Marcus took the Guerran Lagen strategy of combat. I wouldn't give a crap if the leader had a lizard or not. Ninety percent of the time they become armored knights by the end anyway, so it doesn't matter too much. Hell, I once made a rewrite of Adventure in which Tai didn't even get a partner until towards the end... though it WAS a lizard when he actually got it (it was Examon for the curious), so not sure if that counts or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted February 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 Word of advice, don't call the king of all dragons a lizard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstone Dresden Posted February 5, 2011 Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 10 things I'd change about 02: 1. Put TK unambiguously in charge, goggles and all if need be2. Give TK and Kari the Miracle and Destiny eggs, respectively. Willis still doesn't exist.3. Have Ken's Crest turn into the Kindness egg4. Retool Ken's plan from "Create Kimeramon. Kill sh*t." to "Create/find the DigiEgg of Darkness. Armor Digivolve Wormmon. Kill sh*t."5. Don't give them Digivolution back but let them fuse their Eggs for Ultimate and Bio-Merge for Mega OR Give them Digivolution back but give them a straight line from Rookie -> Mega without DNA Digivolving.6. Instead of having the World Tour arc, take a few solitary episodes throughout the first arc to introduce one European, African, South American, Canadian, Central American, and Australian and then take a few episodes away from showing the main 6 fighting to showcase these foreign teams kicking ass on their own.7. Give Hawkmon a definitive gender (Watch the 02 subs, this thing changes genders with evolution it seems)8. Either destroy the original team's Digivices or find some other way to prevent them from getting involved.9. Put another arc in after MaloMyotismon with the twisted fusion of Daemon and Dragomon as the main antagonist.10. DON'T KILL FREAKING MYOTISMON WITH THE POWER OF POSITIVE THINKING Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted February 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 What he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted February 5, 2011 Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 Yeah. Daemon still has to return somehow. I mean really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arekku_Koro Posted February 5, 2011 Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 Hey, did you guys see Xros Wars is getting a human world arc soon. "An epic battle in Tokyo is about to commence!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstone Dresden Posted February 5, 2011 Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 Yeah, there's something this franchise has never done before. Not counting Adventure, 02, Tamers, and Savers, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted February 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 And in Frontier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstone Dresden Posted February 5, 2011 Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 Frontier had an episode and a half in the real world throughout its run. Adventure had half the Myotismon arc, 02 had the Daemon Corps/Oikawa arcs, Tamers had the Deva and D Reaper arcs, and Savers had the entire series save for the Bio Hybrid arc and the intro of the Royal Knights arc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted February 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 A battle was still fought in the real world, that's the important thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstone Dresden Posted February 5, 2011 Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 Yes, but we're talking about arcs, not battles, as you can tell because this conversation started with the line "Xros Wars is getting a human world arc soon" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted February 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 Yeah, but I'm just sayin that there is still a battle in the real world. The RK Arc is all about releasing Lucemon so LordKnightmon and Dynasmon can rule the real world, then Lucemon decides to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted February 5, 2011 Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 10 things I'd change about 02: 1. Put TK unambiguously in charge, goggles and all if need be2. Give TK and Kari the Miracle and Destiny eggs, respectively. Willis still doesn't exist.3. Have Ken's Crest turn into the Kindness egg4. Retool Ken's plan from "Create Kimeramon. Kill sh*t." to "Create/find the DigiEgg of Darkness. Armor Digivolve Wormmon. Kill sh*t."5. Don't give them Digivolution back but let them fuse their Eggs for Ultimate and Bio-Merge for Mega OR Give them Digivolution back but give them a straight line from Rookie -> Mega without DNA Digivolving.6. Instead of having the World Tour arc, take a few solitary episodes throughout the first arc to introduce one European, African, South American, Canadian, Central American, and Australian and then take a few episodes away from showing the main 6 fighting to showcase these foreign teams kicking ass on their own.7. Give Hawkmon a definitive gender (Watch the 02 subs, this thing changes genders with evolution it seems)8. Either destroy the original team's Digivices or find some other way to prevent them from getting involved.9. Put another arc in after MaloMyotismon with the twisted fusion of Daemon and Dragomon as the main antagonist.10. DON'T KILL FREAKING MYOTISMON WITH THE POWER OF POSITIVE THINKING 1. I thought of the goggles, though my real question was if a lizard/dragon should really be important.2. Sounds fair to me, and makes up for Davis briefly having three Digi-Eggs while T.K. and Kari only ever got one.3. Makes sense to me.4. As long as I don't have to use Pucchiemon, that sounds fine to me.5. I was planning give them straight Rookie -> Mega lines. Armadillomon and Wormmon and have been tricky to plan lines for, though.6. I thought it would be fun to make that French girl some kind of rival for Kari for my own personal amusement, and having a team of the foreigners would be nice. My other problem with the epilogue was that EVERYONE had a Digimon, which really drained from what made the main characters so special. Two teams of six sounds far more reasonable in comparison.7. I'm going with female for every form.8. I admit, this will require quite some planning to work out properly.9. I think Daemon would have made for a brilliant antagonist, and the Dark Ocean story could be expanded upon. Despite my love for fusions, I'm not exactly sure if I should create one for Daemon and Dagomon, but rather have them act as individual antagonists.10. "I WANT TO OWN A NOODLE SHOP!" *Big Bad explodes into smoke* MaloMyotismon deserves a far more dignified death, and it won't involve being talked to death or having a giant ball thrown at his crotch. I didn't really consider Dagomon, though he does deserve to appear. I think making him an antagonist in addition to Daemon and Myotismon allows not only a bigger conflict for the Digidestined, but could also present conflict within the forces of evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted February 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 VenomMyotismon was by far more dignified in the manga. Sure, he still had a crotch monster, but at least it was by far more threatening, being a psychotic snake whilst the strange claws on his knees actually became arms. It was awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydra of Ages Posted February 5, 2011 Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 10 things I'd change about 02: 1. Put TK unambiguously in charge, goggles and all if need be2. Give TK and Kari the Miracle and Destiny eggs, respectively. Willis still doesn't exist.3. Have Ken's Crest turn into the Kindness egg4. Retool Ken's plan from "Create Kimeramon. Kill sh*t." to "Create/find the DigiEgg of Darkness. Armor Digivolve Wormmon. Kill sh*t."5. Don't give them Digivolution back but let them fuse their Eggs for Ultimate and Bio-Merge for Mega OR Give them Digivolution back but give them a straight line from Rookie -> Mega without DNA Digivolving.6. Instead of having the World Tour arc, take a few solitary episodes throughout the first arc to introduce one European, African, South American, Canadian, Central American, and Australian and then take a few episodes away from showing the main 6 fighting to showcase these foreign teams kicking ass on their own.7. Give Hawkmon a definitive gender (Watch the 02 subs, this thing changes genders with evolution it seems)8. Either destroy the original team's Digivices or find some other way to prevent them from getting involved.9. Put another arc in after MaloMyotismon with the twisted fusion of Daemon and Dragomon as the main antagonist.10. DON'T KILL FREAKING MYOTISMON WITH THE POWER OF POSITIVE THINKING 1- Why wasn't this the case in the beginning? Were they afraid that people wouldn't watch unless a Tai expy was the one leading them? This one is just so obvious it makes my head hurt, after all Takeru and Kari are the only ones with any experiance anyway. 2- Excellent idea, though it means they'll need to think up a possible armor evolution for both of them. Anyone have any ideas on that end? 3- Would be necessary, really- though he'd still be -1 egg from the rest of the team. Maybe he can keep the Digimental of Darkness? Or reform it later? 4- I dunno, I kinda liked the thought behind "Make my own partner because my current one sucks". Maybe he's looking for the Digimental of Darkness so he can Armor Digivolve Kimeramon and kill even MORE s***? Also, I'd advise that instead of dragging Devimon into it, have the Emperor sample parts from Daemon or Dagomon so that it ties into the later plots. 5- How about a compromise? They can digivolve normally, however they can then Armor Digivolve while in Champion form- into stronger Armor Digimon, obviously. When they hit Perfect, they can Armor Digivolve in their ultimate forms by fusing both of their digimentals together. No clue about Mega. 6- Retool some of the foreigners into references to characters from the other seasons (say, an American that punches out digimon along side his partners) and you've got a deal. 7- PLEASE. 8- My suggestion would be for the crests to literally turn into the associated Digimentals. And I dunno, I kinda liked the cameos of the older kids in the new show- maybe have Emperor/Daemon steal their digivices to try and unlock their secrets. 9- Daemon tries to take over the human world. Simultaneously, Dagomon is trying to eat the digital world. Team needs to split up, leading to both teams trying to take down horribly overpowered antagonists. Also at some point, Dagomon needs to eat/take over the crests of Hope and Light (possibly Miracles and Destiny too) and become Yog-Sothoth...mon.... and Daemon needs to unlock the secret of Supermega Evolution (Give it a better than than Supermega). 10- He's instead defeated by the power of superior firepower. And since we're doing this list thing... let's do MY list! 1. Make the plots of individual episodes more complex than 'Blow up control spires, go home'. Have actual victories against the Emperor that don't involve just blowing up a large number of spires.2. Same goes for the Arukenimon and World Tour arcs.3. In fact, cut out Arukenimon and Mummymon entirely, or at least make them serious villains.4. Allow the chosen to trade their Digimentals temporarily, such as in that one Radio Drama.5. While we're at it, make some of the Armor Evolutions less stupid. Case in point- Manbomon.6. Make foreshadowing actually exist. Hint at Daemon's existence long before he appears, have the Dark Ocean appear periodically to Takeru and Kari instead of just that one time, have Cody mention Owikawa before his arc- details like that really help our suspension of disbelief.7. Have Blackwargreymon be a bit less angsty. And have his sacrifice be less pointless.8. Have humanity actually remember digimon exist since the last season. Hell, the Japanese Army could even be shown making a secret weapon to use if a VenomMyotismon situation arose again.9. Make the Digivices less like swiss army knives and stop having them solve literally every problem.10. Giving ALL of the characters a bit more personality would be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted February 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 Umm, Blazing, you are aware that every partner Digimon from 02 already has an armour evolution for every Digi-egg besides Darkness right? Also, Destiny and Miracles result in the same end, so they're interchangeable. http://digimon.wikia.com/wiki/Digi-Egg_Digivolution_Chart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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