Jake the Sage Posted August 29, 2011 Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 How does anyone still doubt that?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Colonel Remo Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 [color=#ff0000]More so than usual is what I meant[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexev Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 [quote name='Jake the Sage' timestamp='1314661221' post='5478223'] DL I never did disagree with Nexev, I agreed with him on some parts. But when he began insulting it was too far. What manga is perfect? I just state I like it << Have you seen Young Justice DL? Also the suggestion about the one web site . . . DL's mind is a nice place to visit [/quote] I am as allowed to complaign about your tastes as YOU are allowed to complaign about peoples names. Also you insult ME all the time, so don't order the cajun if you cant handle heat. Maybe i shouldnt insult mangas you like specifically because you insult me, but since i genuinly dislike the manga i think i got justification. It has great porn though, freely admit that. @DL: Because a big part about suedom is (I read this essay and everything) the outsides reaction to the person. For a huge portion of Naruto no one thought of him besides as a little s*** and then a slightly competent s***. Now he is a big hero but romantically he has like 3 options. Negi has had pretty much the whole cast since the begining. Only like two people are spared and those are lesbians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake the Sage Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 Okay Nexev . . . l freely admit the end part. Also when do l insult you unless it is in jest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion X. Denver Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 [quote name='Nexev the Supreme Party' timestamp='1314676448' post='5478960'] @DL: Because a big part about suedom is (I read this essay and everything) [/quote] Oooh, oooh, do you have a link? I want to learn how to write non-sue main characters :T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexev Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 [quote name='Fusion X. Denver' timestamp='1314677765' post='5478998'] Oooh, oooh, do you have a link? I want to learn how to write non-sue main characters :T [/quote] [url="http://www.merrycoz.org/papers/MARYSUE.HTM"]http://www.merrycoz.org/papers/MARYSUE.HTM[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake the Sage Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Okay wow . . . I actually stopped reading that possibly 3/4[sup]ths[/sup] of the way through. What I could gather was basically a Mary Sue isn't completely bad, good to know. But the basic definition of one, if I am incorrect just let me know, is someone who is "the center of attention." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Colonel Remo Posted September 1, 2011 Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 [quote name='Jake the Sage' timestamp='1314757775' post='5480844'] [b]Okay wow . . . I actually stopped reading that possibly 3/4[sup]ths[/sup] of the way through[/b]. What I could gather was basically a Mary Sue isn't completely bad, good to know. But the basic definition of one, if I am incorrect just let me know, is someone who is "the center of attention." [/quote] That and I only got 1/6 of all the character references Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spirit of DMG Posted September 1, 2011 Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 Wow... I read like, 1/4th of that and lost interest... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Colonel Remo Posted September 1, 2011 Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 [quote name='Donovyn Mikara Gerra' timestamp='1314913603' post='5484802'] Wow... I read like, 1/4th of that and lost interest... [/quote] inorite? There must be another Mary Sue article somewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Posted September 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 Mary Sues are EASY not to write, if you read Foe Fiction when Crab reviews fics with sues LIKE THE GROUP OF DUELISTS WHO WERE ALL SO SUPER AWESOMELY AMAZING AND HAD PARENTS WHO OWNED HUGE GAMING COMPANIES Sues ftw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted September 1, 2011 Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 [quote name='Darklink401' timestamp='1314919189' post='5485193'] Mary Sues are EASY not to write, if you read Foe Fiction when Crab reviews fics with sues LIKE THE RGOUP OF DUELISTS WHO WERE ALL SO SUPER AWESOMELY AMAZING AND HAD PARENTS WHO OWNED HUGE GAMING COMPANIES Sues ftw [/quote] Hence why Isaac got owned multiple times ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Colonel Remo Posted September 1, 2011 Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 I guess that makes Yami and Lelouch major sue-like characters =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Posted September 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 Lelouch isn't a sue at all o____o Yami...is tho. xD Most ygo protagonists are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Colonel Remo Posted September 1, 2011 Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 I'm pretty sure he's awesomely amazing and is secretly one of the heirs to the throne he wishes to steal He's kinda like sue But he accomplished most of it on his own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion X. Denver Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 OH. A Gary Stu is someone who's special and is practically rubbing it in your face, right? So Chris ISN'T a Stu...phew. Nowait sh*t, that whole Banhammer thing turned Chris into a Stu, didn't it v___v Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake the Sage Posted September 3, 2011 Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 No Fusion I wouldn't count that as being a Stu . . . you might count that as an ass-pull, but then again he had everyone's help in accomplishing it. And I'll agree that most Yu-Gi-Oh Main Characters are major Sues, with maybe the exception being Jaden simply because he's lost probably as many duels as he's won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion X. Denver Posted September 3, 2011 Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 No, what I meant was the fact that everyone gave him stuff for the Banhammer to begin with. Ah well, it is what it is. I don't remember Jaden losing any aside from Aster that one time. Unless you mean before Duel Academy, then I wouldn't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake the Sage Posted September 3, 2011 Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 Well if I remember he lost against Aster, Jesse, Yugi, and I think he lost against Zane as well. I just remember he's lost certain duels and what not. But yeah generally it is easy to avoid writing a Mary Sue/Gary Stu . . . simply don't make anyone the center of attention. Make them as realistic as possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted September 3, 2011 Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 Jake, Jaden is the BIGGEST sue =_= He beat Yugi, unless Yugi had a reaction, btw. Yugi lost. Yusei lost, and got a few unearned victories *Glares at Jean*. Yuma... Nit a sue, atm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Posted September 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 Yeah, Jaden didn't lose often >>;; And Chris wasn't a Stu cause you gave him FLAWS. Sues have no flaws, or their flaws are so horridly overshadowed by their utter and graceful perfection that it's almost impossible to see them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spirit of DMG Posted September 3, 2011 Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 Jaden dueled against Yugi? I remember he dueled a guy using Yugi's deck. (He won that one, BTW.) But, yeah, the first time he dueled against Zane, he lost. Then he dueled Zane at the end of the first season, and it ended in a tie. I can't think of any other duels that Jaden lost... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Max Posted September 3, 2011 Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 Jaden duelled Yugi in the final episodes of GX and was left on a Cliffhanger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Colonel Remo Posted September 3, 2011 Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 Yugi would've won Yugi v Yusei would be better Yugi would still win in my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted September 4, 2011 Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 Yugi lost to Jaden, unless Yugi had a reaction. Jaden's a sue, not a Yuma, so he wouldn't attack with Neos without a plan. Yugi would get slaughtered by Yusei ._. Yugi's deck is slow and ineffective, and, in a non-scripted duel (Reference the voice actor match at Nationals, and you're a moron), Yusei couldn't lose. Yugi has a few banned cards at 1 (Pot of Greed, Graceful Charity, and, before this format, Black Luster Soldier, Envoy of the Beginning). Yusei has Formula, Quasar, Shooting Star, and much, much more. Hell, Yusei's deck is META. Pro Yusei AKA Doppelplants. tl;dr Jaden would have won Yusei wipes the floor with Yugi Yuma is the only non-sue ._. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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