.Starrk Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 [quote name='Hayate Ayasaki' timestamp='1301599844' post='5102835'] You're such a wonderful person. [/quote] I know I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake the Sage Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 What can I say? I know that there is certain things that you get sad about and what not, but eventually you MUST move on. Anything else makes you an angasty sad story and, come on, no one likes that B [ BTW I've actually gone into a Homedepot, to the rope section, and made nooses out of every single length of rope before my cousin got me out of there- and before anyone could notice me. Now what does it say about me that, having never been in Boyscouts or what not, I can still tie a hangman's noose out of pure instinct? 83 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spirit of DMG Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 It makes me think you worked a Gallows in a past life, Jake. It also concerns me, and makes me wonder how you spent your childhood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Starrk Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 [quote name='Jake the Sage' timestamp='1301603853' post='5102991'] What can I say? I know that there is certain things that you get sad about and what not, but eventually you MUST move on. Anything else makes you an angasty sad story and, come on, no one likes that B [ BTW I've actually gone into a Homedepot, to the rope section, and made nooses out of every single length of rope before my cousin got me out of there- and before anyone could notice me. Now what does it say about me that, having never been in Boyscouts or what not, I can still tie a hangman's noose out of pure instinct? 83 [/quote] o.O This worries me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake the Sage Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 I spent my childhood just being a semi-normal person . . . As for past life I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Starrk Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 [quote name='Jake the Sage' timestamp='1301611530' post='5103289'] I spent my childhood just being a semi-normal person . . . As for past life I doubt it. [/quote] I've been worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake the Sage Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 Been worse, in a past life? Yeah I KNOW what my past lives have been and . . . yadda yadda yadda . . . lets just say having delved into practical magic you learn a LOT inb4Blacksaysmagicnoexist Yes it does!!! >8O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 Magic DOES exist. It's just not a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake the Sage Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 [quote name='Zetsubou Black' timestamp='1301611951' post='5103300'] Magic DOES exist. It's just not a good thing. [/quote] Only if you use it for bad things . . . law of karma ya'know If I desire for money I'll eventually I'll loose the same amount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spirit of DMG Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 I do believe I mentioned this before, but... I prevented my ex's mum from sending her off to her drug-and-alcohol-addict father, and healed said mum, using magic, Blacky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 You're implying that evil cannot be used for good =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Starrk Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 [quote name='Zetsubou Black' timestamp='1301615100' post='5103399'] You're implying that evil cannot be used for good =/ [/quote] inb4vladamirlenin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 [quote name='Cōyōté Stárrk' timestamp='1301615177' post='5103401'] inb4vladamirlenin [/quote] ...? I have no idea what you mean ._. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Starrk Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 [quote name='Zetsubou Black' timestamp='1301615231' post='5103402'] ...? I have no idea what you mean ._. [/quote] Nevermind. [size="1"]He had the Bolsheviks use horrid killing techniques to take out possible people that could hurt Russia.[/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake the Sage Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 I am lost too . . . And Black magic cannot be just evil or bad. It is actually nothing more than human will put into a ritual B | Yes there is evil magic that is like the kind you're thinking of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 Magic, in an of itself, is evil. Just because something is evil does not mean it cannot be used for good. Let me put it like this, for you Otakus: Lelouch did evil, but all for a greater good. Should you do it? No. But, it can still be used for good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spirit of DMG Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 Ummm.... Evil and Good are opposites, dude, one can not be used for the other... Now, Darkness can be used for Good, and Light can be used for Evil, but... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake the Sage Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 [quote name='Zetsubou Black' timestamp='1301615634' post='5103412'] Magic, in an of itself, is evil. Just because something is evil does not mean it cannot be used for good. Let me put it like this, for you Otakus: Lelouch did evil, but all for a greater good. Should you do it? No. But, it can still be used for good. [/quote] Okay normally Black I would just drop the argument by just saying "lets agree to disagree" . . . but this time around I'll go with this [IMG]http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz255/Jake-the-Sage/Forum%20Usage/Funny_Pictures_Animated_Funny_Baby.gif[/IMG] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 ANYTHING can be made to work good. Also, here's something funny- the Truly wicked men in history have had STRONG virtues. Atilla had bravery Shylock (fictional) had self-denial Hitler had nationalism Etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spirit of DMG Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 I'm sorry, but by Black saying that Magic is inherently evil, he is challenging one of my most cherished values: [i]Nothing[/i], and I mean [i]absolutely frigging nothing[/i] is inherently good, nor inherently evil. Therefore, magic can not be evil, because nothing is inherently evil. Lelouch therefore did not comit evil deeds. Dark deeds, certainly, but since he performed them for Good, the deeds he committed were therefor Good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion X. Denver Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 Certain actions can universally be considered evil, but other times, one action can be considered good or evil depending on the intentions behind it. I don't see how magic is universally considered evil. Will God be pissed at me for pulling a bunny out of my hat .-. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 [quote name='Fusion X. Denver' timestamp='1301616484' post='5103439'] Certain actions can universally be considered evil, but other times, one action can be considered good or evil depending on the intentions behind it. I don't see how magic is universally considered evil. Will God be pissed at me for pulling a bunny out of my hat .-. [/quote] ... Fuse, not that magic. That magic is showmanship. @DMG: And by telling me it ISN'T you're challenging one of mine. There is inherent good and evil. Magic is evil, plain and simple. A non-suicidal person jumping on a grenade to save the others around him is inherently good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake the Sage Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 Okay that is about enough B | Donnovyn, this time, I will agree on the part about pure evil/good with Black. I have seen true evil and pure good, so they exist in my eyes. While the pure evil/good is extremely rare it IS out there if you look hard enough. Now onto the magic thing, magic is a fickle thing but for the most part if you use it correctly it is not inheritantly evil. If you use it for evil, then evil will be done abck to you. It ALL depends on how you use it, so it is not pure evil. Again magic is NOTHING more than HUMAN will put into a ritual. So. That is it. We are done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spirit of DMG Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 So me jumping in front of a bullet to save a mass murderer on a killing spree would be inherently good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 [quote name='Donovyn Mikara Gerra' timestamp='1301617205' post='5103456'] So me jumping in front of a bullet to save a mass murderer on a killing spree would be inherently good? [/quote] ... I just love logic jumps. Did I say this? No. I said saving others around you, whether you know them or not. Is it good to let others die to kill one man? @JAke: DMG Logic: YOU ARE CUTTING DOWN WHAT I BELIEVE. STFU. Real logic: We disagree. I'm just presenting my view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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