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there is a drawback to it's effect, the amount if cards in your deck, though the anime had this combo'd with infinite cards, revival jam, card of safe return and jam defender (a combo which you cant do in the TCG because of revival jam's effect, though could be possible if you have Prime material dragon) so this card can have alot of ATK

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Most of us play in Advanced Format.

 

And the card is generally not worth the 3 tributes as long as Bloo-D exists.

This. There are MUCH better cards that require 3 tributes.

 

All the Egyptian God cards suck.

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You guys are tarded. Slifer is possibly going to be the best God card released. Konami really can't nerf it without getting an assassination. Can Blood destroy any 2000 or less ATK monster your opponent summons? Is it immune to Spell or Trap targeting? Is it immune to Bottomless? Does it usually have 3000+ ATK? Blood is awesome but not as imposing as Slifer.

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Until it receives an official OCG effect/release, there's not much to say about it. The games indicate it can instantly kill any opposing monster with 2000 DEF or less, and has 1000 ATK per card in your hand. This makes it probably the best of the three, although it has a weakness in that in order to maintain its ATK, you must stop playing cards or have some sort of draw engine in place. Worm Linx says hi.

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Slifer's effect would modify any attack gain of Neptune with it's effect. The effect of Slifer is the kind of "this card's ATK is equal to ", not the "this card gains ATK equal to", so no matter if Neptune gains or not the ATK of Slifer, it's ATK will be modified again by Slifer's effect...

No, I mean Neptune says it gains the ATK of the tributed monsters.

It doesnt say it gains the origional.

(An ATK of ????, like in Slifer's case, is treated as an original of 0, while its the field, therefor, Neptune would have 1500 ATK(0 + Hardened))

So I was saying that if you had 3 cards left in your hand when you tributed Slifer, which had 3K ATK, Neptune would then have 4500 ATK as 3K + 1500 = 4500, and it would increase yet again to be 7500, as you selected Slifer for Neptune's effect.

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I would build this in Wc10 to test this, but 10 doesnt have Hardened :/

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I understand. And what I mean is that once summoned, Neptune's ATK will be 1500 + 0, but once it's effect activates, it will gain the effect of Slifer, transforming it's ATK, not adding more to it's current ATK. So, unless Umi shenanigans are out there, it's ATK will be equal to the ATK given by the effect of Slifer, ignoring Neptune's own ATK modifier.

If the effect of Slifer were "This card gains 1000 ATK for each card in your hand" then it would be added to Neptune's own ATK.

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No, Neptune does not work like that. I tried it with The Calculator. It absorbs the ATK of the monster once it hits the grave.

 

You guys are tarded. Slifer is possibly going to be the best God card released. Konami really can't nerf it without getting an assassination. Can Blood destroy any 2000 or less ATK monster your opponent summons? Is it immune to Spell or Trap targeting? Is it immune to Bottomless? Does it usually have 3000+ ATK? Blood is awesome but not as imposing as Slifer.

How 'bout you not go throwing that term around, hot shot?

 

Konami CAN nerf it and WILL nerf it.

 

Yes, Plasma/Bloo-D can. Absorbtion+Effect cancellig. Not as instantly, but, once nerfed, Slifer won't be able to either.

 

Is sSlifer immune to Monster effects?

 

Yes, Slifer's immune to bottomless, so the fact that he takes 3 Tributes and wastes a Normal Summon is 100% justified.

 

Does Slifer negate Brionac? Auto-Bounce as it lols at you.

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How 'bout you not go throwing that term around, hot shot?

 

Konami CAN nerf it and WILL nerf it.

 

Yes, Plasma/Bloo-D can. Absorbtion+Effect cancellig. Not as instantly, but, once nerfed, Slifer won't be able to either.

 

I doubt that.

 

Is sSlifer immune to Monster effects?

It has a 50% chance to. Going by the precedent of Obelisk and Ra

 

Yes, Slifer's immune to bottomless, so the fact that he takes 3 Tributes and wastes a Normal Summon is 100% justified.

 

True

 

Does Slifer negate Brionac? Auto-Bounce as it lols at you.

Obelisk spits in Brionac's face.

 

I keep forgetting about Plasma's Skill Drain.:/

 

That, said Obelisk can't be targeted and I hope Slifer can't too.

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You must Tribute 3 monsters to Normal Summon this card (you cannot Set this card). The Normal Summon of this card cannot be negated. When this card is Normal Summoned, Spells, Traps, and Effect Monster effects cannot be activated. This card cannot be targeted by the effects of Spells, Traps or Effect Monsters. The ATK and DEF of this card becomes the number of cards in your hand x 1000. When your opponent Normal Summons or Flip Summons a monster with 1500 DEF or less, destroy that monster.

 

Thats what I think its effect will be

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