.Corgi Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 Off-topic: I rarley enjoy sceneish music but this really does it for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susie Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICjIw1g4iu0 Off-topic: I rarley enjoy sceneish music but this really does it for me. sorry man but that was really annoying, i only made it about one minute into the song. the only scene band that im into is The Devil Wears Prada might as well post this track since its what im playing on my bass [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmCA7EwE3rY[/media] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~NOiSE~ Posted April 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 Brand New released a new song, but I refuse to listen to it at this point in this time. More Darkspace anyone? I know I've been talking about them a lot but I seriously can't get enough...might be my favorite black metal band now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susie Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 will check out that Brand New track at some point, also Darkspace are good but theyre nowheres near the best BM band out there that title to me would probably go to Lifelover with Deathspell Omega, Agalloch and Blut Aus Nord following closely behindhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mygIU9tzrP0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~NOiSE~ Posted April 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 will check out that Brand New track at some point, also Darkspace are good but theyre nowheres near the best BM band out there that title to me would probably go to Lifelover with Deathspell Omega, Agalloch and Blut Aus Nord following closely behindhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mygIU9tzrP0 I dunno man, Darkspace just has me hooked hard. The bleak, cold, lifeless atmosphere, spacey synths and awesome riffs just eat away at me. Also the really minimalist approach they take to their titles and artwork just adds to it all. I've yet to find a flaw, and they just get better with every listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susie Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 I dunno man, Darkspace just has me hooked hard. The bleak, cold, lifeless atmosphere, spacey synths and awesome riffs just eat away at me. Also the really minimalist approach they take to their titles and artwork just adds to it all. I've yet to find a flaw, and they just get better with every listen.i agree on everything you say about them, but i just feel like my love towards Lifelover and a few others is much more stronger really addicted to that new Brand New trackhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwICLInIl8A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~NOiSE~ Posted April 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 I checked out Lifelover, but I did not like them very much to be honest. That Brand New track is alright, I'm sure it'll be better in the context of the full album. I hope they keep some of the noisy elements of Daisy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susie Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 I checked out Lifelover, but I did not like them very much to be honest. That Brand New track is alright, I'm sure it'll be better in the context of the full album. I hope they keep some of the noisy elements of Daisy.i really love what Lifelover do, its one of the weirdest and most unique ideas ever mixing Black Metal, Depressive Rock, Post-Punk, Gothic Rock, Dark Ambient and hell even some minor Pop elements. the emotions in Lifelover are just intense, the vocals sound tortured, the melodies are melodic but still soul crushing, sadly one of the band members died of an overdose on his prescription medication and the band soon faded out of existence. i really like Mene, its a good call back to the catchy days of Brand New, but at the same time its still innovating their sound further. some Type O Negativehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DbnUseigbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ｍｒ．Ｒｏｂｏｔ Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 Experiment In Expectation was release in 2001 and Hot Cross entered the scene pretty much on the same time so a tie? Oh and the only Dark Space I heard/properly heard to was the 3rd album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susie Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 ive only heard a few Kill Sadie tracks and i love what ive heard out of them, though i never have had the chance to dive into their discography full version of the new ABR track is out, and it sounds good, reminds me more of Thrill Seekerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxWnl_aUXB4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~NOiSE~ Posted April 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 Experiment In Expectation was release in 2001 and Hot Cross entered the scene pretty much on the same time so a tie? Oh and the only Dark Space I heard/properly heard to was the 3rd album. For sure, both awesome bands. If you like Dark Space III, you'd probably dig their other ones as well. ive only heard a few Kill Sadie tracks and i love what ive heard out of them, though i never have had the chance to dive into their discography full version of the new ABR track is out, and it sounds good, reminds me more of Thrill Seekerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxWnl_aUXB4 It'd be worth your time, they're really great. The August Burns Red song was ok, but I haven't really been interested in them for a long time. Some cool parts ("flood the earth" section specifcally) but I don't dig that style anymore. Got this yesterday and I'm loving it. Crusty black metal featuring the drummer of Agalloch. Reminds me of Voivod quite a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susie Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 For sure, both awesome bands. If you like Dark Space III, you'd probably dig their other ones as well. It'd be worth your time, they're really great. The August Burns Red song was ok, but I haven't really been interested in them for a long time. Some cool parts ("flood the earth" section specifcally) but I don't dig that style anymore. Got this yesterday and I'm loving it. Crusty black metal featuring the drummer of Agalloch. Reminds me of Voivod quite a bit. the album cover alone made me think of Voivod, i will check out that album sometime i want more Post-Rock covers done by Post-Hardcore bandshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1MY-1-CWwM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ｍｒ．Ｒｏｂｏｔ Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 Might try their other albums, 3.13 was intense. While the ABR song was...not good. It's like they regress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susie Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 Might try their other albums, 3.13 was intense. While the ABR song was...not good. It's like they regress.its definitely not as good as the stuff they had on Rescue and Restore or Constellations, but i still think its a good song, just not as good as some of their other stuff. [spoiler=i love birthday money]only wish that i could find some Porcupine Tree, Type O Negative and Mogwai albums also one of my Spitfire albums showed up in the mail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~NOiSE~ Posted April 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 Might try their other albums, 3.13 was intense. While the ABR song was...not good. It's like they regress. Agreed, the riffs on the second half of 3.13 are heavyyy. its definitely not as good as the stuff they had on Rescue and Restore or Constellations, but i still think its a good song, just not as good as some of their other stuff. [spoiler=i love birthday money] only wish that i could find some Porcupine Tree, Type O Negative and Mogwai albums also one of my Spitfire albums showed up in the mail. Decent buys, At the Gates is the best there in my opinion, does your version have two bonus tracks?. Looks like you got the reissued version of those In Flames album as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susie Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 Agreed, the riffs on the second half of 3.13 are heavyyy. Decent buys, At the Gates is the best there in my opinion, does your version have two bonus tracks?. Looks like you got the reissued version of those In Flames album as well.i dont think my version of At War With Reality has the bonus tracks, it doesnt say that theres any on the back. yeah the In Flames albums are all reissues (except for Siren Charms) i bought them since they were on sale, 2 for 20$ for each along with the CoB album, Siren Charms was the only In Flames record that wasnt on 2 for 20$ (probably because of how new it was). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~NOiSE~ Posted April 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 Moog I am so sorry about this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susie Posted April 21, 2015 Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 Moog I am so sorry about this yeah i got the chance to see this on the DGD shoutbox, honestly theres so much he missed and hes acting so biased on that review that its just plain cringe worthy. i will admit that he does raise a few good points like how the scream/melodic singing trope is a bit overdone, i can see the clean production being an issue too and i could see why hed find the vocal work to be obnoxious but what sets me off so much is how he treats the band like theres no depth behind them and labels them as tasteless and bad songwriting. he misses the fact that their lyrics are just supposed to be nonsensical thats part of the charm for DGD, Will Swan himself has said in multiple interviews that his rap parts are supposed to be ironic. yeah theyre a loud, obnoxious, chaotic poppy mess of a band but thats what makes DGD, them. theyre not really all that trendy either, they inherent a lot of the old Post-Hardcore traits, the chaotic riffs, the noisy harsh screaming those are all really old school ideas and theyre melting those ideas into their own modern idea. if he doesnt like that then fine with me, but he acts like theres absolutely no musicianship whatsoever and treats the album like its a funking Falling In Reverse record.he also acts as if the DGD fanbase listens to them because its "tasteful" i dont care if its tasteful to be into DGD and neither does the rest of their fanbase. i like DGD because i think theyre interesting and fun to listen to, i like what theyre doing with Post-Hardcore, i think its cool and innovative how they walk on the thin line between modern and old school Post-Hardcore, i like how they really mess around and have such a fun attitude with their songwriting, but still know how to meld various styles together (Post-Hardcore, Prog Rock, Pop Punk, Soul just to name a few) and in my opinion theyre one of the few bands that can pull off an experimental but poppy sound. i dont care if theyre tasteful or tasteless, hell ill even admit that despite being a major fan and probably one of the biggest fans of DGD on this forum, that theyre a flawed band, yeah DGD have flaws that i notice but that doesnt stop me from liking what i think is good about them.tbh Anthony has actually dissed quite a few albums and bands that i love, but in this review hes acting way too biased and being a pretentious cocknozzle over this record. he literally just shits all over it and gives the band a middle finger up their asses. i usually am fine with him bashing things that i enjoy, but this album was WAY out of his league and he knew it. he could of had at least just briefly touched up on it in a Y U NO REVIEW video, but he went for the full on thing anyways. he can sit in his corner with Liturgy, Neutral Milk Hotel and weird obscure Jazz albums while i sit in my corner with Dance Gavin Dance, Thursday and Circa Survive for all i care about (hence why i wont bother ranting in the comment section and here instead). and now im done my fanboy rant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ｍｒ．Ｒｏｂｏｔ Posted April 21, 2015 Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 It's 3 AM and I should be sleeping but instead I watch that review. I guess I have terrible music taste then. Summarizing DGD as "packing a lot of fillers, and layers and musical complexity into would-be pop emo songs" is really accurate and I just learned that emo is morphing into screamo with bands like Envy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~NOiSE~ Posted April 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 Holy wall of text! Maybe I shouldn't have posted that video haha.I do agree with most of his points as I'm not a DGD fan in the slightest, for most of the reasons he mentioned. It is strange that he reviewed it though, I don't think he's ever given a 1 before. I definitely don't love the band but dang that's harsh. There must be a reason for him reviewing it though, he's usually fair and unbiased...this one just seemed out of left field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susie Posted April 21, 2015 Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 Holy wall of text! Maybe I shouldn't have posted that video haha. I do agree with most of his points as I'm not a DGD fan in the slightest, foe most of the reasons he mentioned. It is strange that he reviewed it though, I don't think he's ever given a 1 before. I definitely don't love the band but dang that's harsh. There must be a reason for him reviewing it though, he's usually fair and unbiased...this one just seemed out of left field.i did have a lot of things to say about it, but i think you summed up my feelings pretty quickly, he does have valid points as well as points that are completely biased and unfair. about 90% of of the things he says are just relentless and unnecessary. he disregards what DGD stand for and their musicianship and acts like theres no depth to their music whatsoever. like youre not even close to being a fan of their music but you wouldnt say its in bad taste to be into the band and deny there being any depth and reason to be bands sound. it was way out of his field to be doing this style of Post-Hardcore and he should have been less biased in his points and overall score. the only logical reason i can think of for him doing this review would be Ghost Cal making him do it. hes never given a 1 before but he did give Lana Del Rey and Childish Gambino a 2. anyways lets get off of this. i listened to that Spitfire record that came in, it was Self-Help so now ive listened to all three of their albums and i can say that The Dead Next Door is my favorite and my least favorite of the three being Self-Help. cant wait for the other two to come in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ｍｒ．Ｒｏｂｏｔ Posted April 21, 2015 Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 i did have a lot of things to say about it, but i think you summed up my feelings pretty quickly, he does have valid points as well as points that are completely biased and unfair. about 90% of of the things he says are just relentless and unnecessary. he disregards what DGD stand for and their musicianship and acts like theres no depth to their music whatsoever. like youre not even close to being a fan of their music but you wouldnt say its in bad taste to be into the band and deny there being any depth and reason to be bands sound. it was way out of his field to be doing this style of Post-Hardcore and he should have been less biased in his points and overall score. the only logical reason i can think of for him doing this review would be Ghost Cal making him do it. hes never given a 1 before but he did give Lana Del Rey and Childish Gambino a 2. anyways lets get off of this. i listened to that Spitfire record that came in, it was Self-Help so now ive listened to all three of their albums and i can say that The Dead Next Door is my favorite and my least favorite of the three being Self-Help. cant wait for the other two to come in. You're young so I get it Moog, but it's all just a matter of perspective. His review is not the one and only and that the one that matters, full stop, the end. His reviews are pretty good upon entry level as he's usually unbiased though they can be very elitist. Calling math-rock, loud noise rock and uses old school/classic stuff as an example for comparison. Stuff like that. Just don't take it too serious though, DGD is not a would be emo pop and emo did not morph into screamo thanks to Envy. I remember last time Letlive. jabroni about him giving them a 5 I think for their second lp while DGD members had fun with this review on twitter. Trendymess is trending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susie Posted April 21, 2015 Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 You're young so I get it Moog, but it's all just a matter of perspective. His review is not the one and only and that the one that matters, full stop, the end. His reviews are pretty good upon entry level as he's usually unbiased though they can be very elitist. Calling math-rock, loud noise rock and uses old school/classic stuff as an example for comparison. Stuff like that. Just don't take it too serious though, DGD is not a would be emo pop and emo did not morph into screamo thanks to Envy. I remember last time Letlive. b**** about him giving them a 5 I think for their second lp while DGD members had fun with this review on twitter. Trendymess is trending.i get that his opinion is his and i dont mind him hating on the albums that i enjoy, hes actually done quite a few reviews that i agree with as well as disagree with and he usually isnt very biased with his reviews, i actually used to be subscribed to his channel until i lost interest. the thing that annoys me is really how many people are getting the wrong idea about DGD through his review. his bias is really misleading for people who have never tried out DGD. just take a look at how /mu/ used to be filled with DGD fans but ever since Anthony reviewed it people are ripping the band to shreds on there just because Fantano hated it. i dont mind him or anyone else disliking any band but the level of bias is really insane. if i really cared that much about his opinion and took it so seriously then id rant about it on his territory as opposed to here, like i said earlier "he can sit in his corner with Liturgy, Neutral Milk Hotel and weird obscure jazz albums while i sit in my corner with Dance Gavin Dance, Circa Survive and Thursday for all i care about". i will admit that some of my rant was a bit unnecessary (and maybe the whole thing in general), but yeah apologies if i came off too strongly and a bit too fanboy-ish there, it just came pretty suddenly to me, and it was really unexpected for him to review it. anyways to get off this topic, i just finished this album, it has a more Death Metal sound compared to Pelagial and Heliocentric, but i still love ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3F_1YPPYdc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~NOiSE~ Posted April 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 I think Fantano was just using envy as an example of screamo, but as much as I love them, they're not really the band I would use to introduce someone to the genre. I also don't like letlive. or Dance Gavin Dance, so I have no complaints for his opinions on either group. Super-polished modern post-hardcore just does not sit well with me for whatever reason. I think The Ocean does some really cool stuff, but I really hate their lyrical concepts. They sound like a bunch of elitist dicks who frequent /r/atheism, and it kind of turns me off. Hey, what are your opinions on those Spitfire albums? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susie Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 I think Fantano was just using envy as an example of screamo, but as much as I love them, they're not really the band I would use to introduce someone to the genre. I also don't like letlive. or Dance Gavin Dance, so I have no complaints for his opinions on either group. Super-polished modern post-hardcore just does not sit well with me for whatever reason. I think The Ocean does some really cool stuff, but I really hate their lyrical concepts. They sound like a bunch of elitist dicks who frequent /r/atheism, and it kind of turns me off. Hey, what are your opinions on those Spitfire albums?i dont mind clean production as long as the sound itself is interesting enough and i think its interesting how letlive and DGD are able to meld ideas of modern Post-Hardcore with the ideas of old school Post-Hardcore. i only know of the concept for Pelagial which i thought was cool in how the songs get darker and heavier as the album goes on to represent the depth of the ocean, never knew about the concept of their other albums. the Spitfire albums are all great for me, though The Dead Next Door was the album that stuck out to me the most, while Self-Help was the one that stuck out the least for me. still waiting for The Dead Next Door and Cult Fiction to come in the mail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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