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[quote name='Future Paradise' timestamp='1290120590' post='4794089']
[s]You're banned![/s]


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I won't vote until I feel like I should. I think we need to somehow draw/attract people to this [s]club[/s] place of opinions. Any ideas?
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I am just stating my personal opinion. If we successfully pull it off to the mods, hell we'll be the next legendary organization.

[quote name='Anbu-of-Sand' timestamp='1290123510' post='4794146']
Advertisement through sigs like what your doing sounds ideal to me in my opinion.

By the way, on that 'banned' note, that raised a thought to me. In some threads in Forums such as Roleplaying, Games, and whatnot, if you disobey is said thread, the thread creator says your 'banned' from the thread. How does that actually work? Do they tell a mod, and do the mods somehow make it that it's impossible for the person who was banned from the thread to post in it and whatnot? I'd really like to know, seeing I was always wondered how banning someone from your thread really worked. It'd be gladly appreciated.
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Banned from a particular thread?

I LOVE IT.

This would be a great addiction to Clubs too, if noobs come around and spam.
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[quote name='Future Paradise' timestamp='1290201482' post='4795895']
I now vote yes for the "Legendary Club" archiving. I will PM a Super moderator with the information.
With the being banned problem, yes, people should be able to get banned from threads for causing problems. But isn't it all ready a rule?
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The current rule with bans is you mentally disable them to post in your thread. You cannot actually stop them.

Banning members from your threads will not result in much harm either.
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So, do all of you think our next problem / thing to debate on is this 'banning people from your thread' concept? Or something else.

If it were to be something else, I think it should be something about the mods having a look at the Comments and Suggestions Forum, and maybe consider / let Falling Pizza / YCMaker know about some of the nifty things thought up in there. For example, Set Delete, Returning Topic Drafts, etc. I mean seriously. That set Delete thread has been here for a year and I believe has over 200 Supporters, yet nothing has happened to make that idea real.
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[quote name='Future Paradise' timestamp='1290213437' post='4796345']
Hmmm.....so it isn't a rule? I thought it was.......you learn something new every day.
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It isn't a rule, but the tradition still exists...for banned members not to post in your club.

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So, do all of you think our next problem / thing to debate on is this 'banning people from your thread' concept? Or something else.

If it were to be something else, I think it should be something about the mods having a look at the Comments and Suggestions Forum, and maybe consider / let Falling Pizza / YCMaker know about some of the nifty things thought up in there. For example, Set Delete, Returning Topic Drafts, etc. I mean seriously. That set Delete thread has been here for a year and I believe has over 200 Supporters, yet nothing has happened to make that idea real.
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Yeah, that would be a good 2nd debate.

And too bad in the world of YCM, freedom or speech and the public's opinion do not matter. Much.
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Well, for now while we are still thinking about what should be our second debate, now is a good time to....POST UP MY UBER LONG RANTS / WHATEVER YOU MAY CALL THEM!!!! YAY!!!! :D I say this because I don't think I would call it a rant, and I'm not entirely sure what it would be called exactly. I just really wanted to get this 'off my chest' if you will, so, here it goes. Also, I was waiting for the right time to post all of these, and now seemed like a better time then ever, while in the middle of figuring out a debate, for all of you wondering why I would just post something like this now.

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[spoiler=Point 1 - Why I Think Mods Act The Way You Do]
Sorry for a sudden change in the topic, if it would be a change in the topic, but I just had a thought why I think some Mods act the way they do, with a few other statements involving mods as well. As well all know, there are those mods who either don't do anything (inactive mods), and those mods even though active, how can I say this, 'overextend' there abilities as a mod (power abusers). Now here is why I think these mods act like certain ways. [url="http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/topic/228490-my-2-cents-must-read/"]Here[/url] is a link that vaguely / somewhat talks about this as well.

To start off, I'll talk about my point of view on why some mods don't do much work. I think it is because some of these mods do not want to take the risk of getting complaints from regular YCM Members when they would implant a change in their section somehow, whether it would be through changing the rules slightly, or other things. Which leads them just to do minor things such as locking threads with spam in it, but do nothing to help improve their section in a different way.

Now for the 'power abusers', I think the only reason why they 'abuse' their powers, is that because they think they are doing what is best for their section, when sometimes, it is not. I mean, if you look at it through their point of view, when they were first given their position, you would think that they gave you that position because you knew more about that section then some other members did correct? Now overtime, this would convince you to think that you were given said position because you knew everything and what was best for the forum, which makes you ignore any suggestions from some other members a good amount of the time, making you listen to only yourself, which leads to you doing things without other members opinions, which can lead to not improving said section, but making it worse. This is because of the promotion they were given in the first place, it never seemed to occur to them that one day, a regular member would suggest something better than him / her, and if other regular members would like said suggestion better than the mod, it would make the mod angry seeing he / she thinks they know everything that is right for the section, then all of a sudden a regular member to suddenly know more.
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[spoiler=Point 2 - Mods And The Rules]
Now, this part is unrelated to my previous thoughts, but is still about the mods. It is about I guess you can say mods do something that is at the bridge of being against the rules, but get away with it at the end. In my opinion this 'rule' needs to be reevaluated. It is okay if they choose not to punish there own though, that is, with the assumption that the mods have their own integrity. However, if this unofficial rule isn't made and should mods not have their own integrity, this gives them nothing in there way to stopping them to become a psycho over power.

This will feed the mods ego, making think they can do whatever they feel like in their section, with nobody to step up to them. This will eventually make them think their section revolves completely around them, and no one can do anything to improve the forum without their approval / input on their suggestion. Therefore, if there would be new mods, we would have to make sure the new mods would be willing to punish their fellow mods when needed, otherwise, this will most likely just lead to more power abuse. The problem is, it does not matter how much power said mod holds, because at the end of the day, that mod is only 1 person, and 1 person cannot keep a section alive and whatnot.
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[spoiler=Point 3 - The Mod Forum]
For my last point, I link back to [url="http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/topic/228490-my-2-cents-must-read/"]this[/url] thread. Now if you would look at post number 32 on page 2, Josh told us it is not for us to know what goes on in the Mod Forum unless they tell us. This though, does have it's drawbacks. Because every decision that is made requires a time window for most members to adjust for said change. Not everyone could adjust to something just like that, therefore, if the Mods are going to make some big change, being able to adjust to it as soon as it's done, doesn't mean we will. Therefore, seeing no two people can adjust to something at identical speeds without being aware of said change in advance, mods do not have the right to say "That's because your too slow and stupid to adjust quickly.A example of the members not being able to adjust because of being unaware of a big change in the first place was when YCM changed Formats. I can only assume that the Mods knew about this prior before it happened, but I can say no other regular members knew.

I think if we knew about the change ahead of time, all the members that had quite because they couldn't handle the change because they had no say in it, would still be here. And who knows, maybe if we did had a say, we could've just might still have the old YCM, even though this would be highly unlikely, and the change would still go on, but at least we would have been able to know about it ahead of time, giving us time to adjust before it happens.So I think it'd be best for Mods to tell us when they have an idea for a big change coming ahead in advance before it happens, and see our opinions on said change, that way, us regular members will be able to be prepared for the change before it does happen. And by in advance, I don't mean just 5 measly minutes before they do make the change, I'm saying around a week or two before it does happen, to see what other members have to say about it.
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[quote name='Future Paradise' timestamp='1290298752' post='4798986']
I actually don't think that the mods want their forum to "revolve around them". =/
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It was a theory. I never said they wanted their section to revolve around them, but in theory, that when there ego continued to become larger, they would start to think their section would start revolving around them, and that no one but them knew what was good for their section, leading to no one being able to leave suggestions without said mods approval or input, which most likely would at the end be said to be a stupid suggestion and whatnot.
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[quote name='Anbu-of-Sand' timestamp='1290309445' post='4799434']
It was a theory. I never said they wanted their section to revolve around them, but in theory, that when there ego continued to become larger, they would start to think their section would start revolving around them, and that no one but them knew what was good for their section, leading to no one being able to leave suggestions without said mods approval or input, which most likely would at the end be said to be a stupid suggestion and whatnot.
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That's semi-corruption, but it's not the case.

The mods are just too ignorant.
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