It just hit me... (OGC for countering cards that prevent monster attacking)

[CNo.101 S.H. Death Knight]

As far i'm concerned, i don't thinking there card have a trigger effect to counter against cards that prevent monsters or the player to declare an attack or an effect that required to activate when a card that prevent attack declaration. If i want to make an effect about that what would be the OCG of that? here an example i made with that kind of effects in addition to removed from play face-down card.

Name: D.M.Angel - Constraining Am'lia
Attribute: DARK
Level: 6
Type: Fairy
ATK: 1500
DEF: 1800
Effect: When this card is Summoned, remove from play the top card of your Deck face-down. When your opponent activate a card(s) that would negate an attack and or prevent attack declaration, reveal the face-down card that is remove from play by this card's effect, this card get the appropriate effect: - Monster: All "D.M.Angel" monsters except this card are unaffected by a card effect(s) that would negate n attack and or prevent attack declaration. - Spell: Tribute this card and discard 1 card to negate the activation of that card and destroy it, then your opponent cannot declare an attack for 3 of their turns. - Trap: when there a face-up continuous card that would negate an attack and or prevent attack declaration, Inflict 1000 Damage to your opponent at the End Phase of their Turn. When this card is destroyed, return the card that is removed from play by this card's effect to your hand.

[DrGamer365]

Threatening Roar. Wattlemur. 'Nuff said.

[DrGamer365]

Oops.

[DrGamer365]

Oops.

Oh wait, I get what you're trying to say! Nevermind. Yeah, it would probably be something like "Activate only when a card's effect that would negate an attack or prevent Attack declaration. Negate that card, and destroy it."

[CrabHelmet]

You are correct that there exists no card that does quite what you describe, but there are several that have functionally similar effects, such as Mirage Dragon.

[Zkaiser]

Instigating Barrister
DARK/6
Spellcaster/Effect
Once per turn, when a card or effect is activated that includes the effect of negating an attack AND/OR preventing attack declaration you can negate that card's activation/effect and send it to the Graveyard. During a turn this effect is activated you can select 1 monster you control. That monster gains 1 additional attack until the end of this turn.
1700/200

[CNo.101 S.H. Death Knight]

[quote name='DrGamer365' timestamp='1289250574' post='4772168']
Oops.Oh wait, I get what you're trying to say! Nevermind. Yeah, it would probably be something like "Activate only when a card's effect that would negate an attack or prevent Attack declaration. Negate that card, and destroy it."
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yeah it would be something like that

[quote name='Crab Helmet' timestamp='1289254924' post='4772377']
You are correct that there exists no card that does quite what you describe, but there are several that have functionally similar effects, such as Mirage Dragon.
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yeah i know it just that a rare thing, because people always find ways to break through it take awhile but it would be find to walk around it lol.

[quote name='Zkaiser' timestamp='1289260020' post='4772670']
Instigating BarristerDARK/6Spellcaster/EffectOnce per turn, when a card or effect is activated that includes the effect of negating an attack AND/OR preventing attack declaration you can negate that card's activation/effect and send it to the Graveyard. During a turn this effect is activated you can select 1 monster you control. That monster gains 1 additional attack until the end of this turn.1700/200
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it would be an effect that can counter Sword of revealing light, gravity bind and messenger of peace. but also any one time card that like T-roar for example.

but so for OCG of it so it would be this following kinds:


"When your opponent activate a card(s) that would negate an attack and or prevent attack declaration." this would be that at the moment it is activating and allow the chain to start to prevent it from happening of course.

"When a card effect is activated that negate an attack and or is preventing attack declaration." This mean example a gravity Bind is currently in play for few turns, then you can activate to negate it and destroy it or have monster to be unaffected by cards that negate an attack or is preventing attack declaration.

but the question is would the company say "declaration" or it will use another word with same meaning? or they would change declaring an attack?

so why not discuss about it? also Different dimension Capsule is so far the ONLY card in the game that have a removed from play card facedown lol

[Zeppeli Gyro Supreme]

[quote name='Scheath&Thanatos' timestamp='1289279922' post='4773718']
so why not discuss about it? also Different dimension Capsule is so far the ONLY card in the game that have a removed from play card facedown lol
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http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Lightforce_Sword

On the topic of the effect: I think it would be written along the lines of "When the effect of a card activates during the declaration of a monster's attack...", or more specifically "If the effect of a card would negate the attack of a monster...". It really depends on how specific you want to be, and on what about.

Also, I would suggest putting your written card in the first post. That way people wont think this is just a random topic.

[CrabHelmet]

[quote name='slayer_supreme' timestamp='1289355066' post='4774851']
On the topic of the effect: I think it would be written along the lines of "When the effect of a card activates during the declaration of a monster's attack...", or more specifically "If the effect of a card would negate the attack of a monster...". It really depends on how specific you want to be, and on what about.
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He wants to be able to stop not only attack negation but also attack prevention; the card he wants should be able to negate Threatening Roar and Gravity Bind.

[Zeppeli Gyro Supreme]

In that case, I think it would be something along the lines of: "...may declare attacks regardless of other card effects, and its attacks cannot be negated."

Or in the case of the card: "Once per turn, you may negate the effect of and send to the Graveyard a card which negates a monster's attack and/or prevents the declaration of attacks..." Or maybe just "Prevents monsters from attacking".

[CNo.101 S.H. Death Knight]

[quote name='slayer_supreme' timestamp='1289355066' post='4774851']
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Lightforce_SwordOn the topic of the effect: I think it would be written along the lines of "When the effect of a card activates during the declaration of a monster's attack...", or more specifically "If the effect of a card would negate the attack of a monster...". It really depends on how specific you want to be, and on what about.Also, I would suggest putting your written card in the first post. That way people wont think this is just a random topic.
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[quote name='slayer_supreme' timestamp='1289358298' post='4774974']
In that case, I think it would be something along the lines of: "...may declare attacks regardless of other card effects, and its attacks cannot be negated."Or in the case of the card: "Once per turn, you may negate the effect of and send to the Graveyard a card which negates a monster's attack and/or prevents the declaration of attacks..." Or maybe just "Prevents monsters from attacking".
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yeah i should put a written card although it's already in image card too but i will put just the effect for now. Not only the negating effect but also the immunity toward that kind of effect i think you will find it interesting once i add it in the first post. It look like it's TWO cards in TCG that "have removed from play face-down" also the term "facedown" in that lifeforce sword card was added in a hyphen in the newer cards in the 5D's so that mean it changed then.

[CNo.101 S.H. Death Knight]

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