Krillin! Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 You know what... Everyone says Naruto is way overrated. I agree. That doesn't mean that it's not a good series, however. I personally love Naruto, and DBZ! But I think DBZ has better characters, Naruto has a better plot(just barely), and with attacks both series pwn. (NATURALLY, I HAVE A TIE IN MY OPINION) You guys break the tie. Which is better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 Dragonball Z is actually more overrated than Naruto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 Dragonball did the thing all battle stories shouldn't do at any cost, according to many pro plot writers. It was to make every single character overpowered so that the more the story goes on, the enemy becomes a hundred times stronger. If you think logically, using science and math, Freeza has the ability to destroy the world - which goes against laws of the world. Naruto did basicaly the same thing, except in a barely more balanced matter. Apart from that, it had a slightly better plot. So Naruto. Then again, I don't like either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 [quote name='=Evangelion=' timestamp='1288750349' post='4758369'] Dragonball did the thing all battle stories shouldn't do at any cost, according to many pro plot writers. It was to make every single character overpowered so that the more the story goes on, the enemy becomes a hundred times stronger. If you think logically, using science and math, Freeza has the ability to destroy the world - which goes against laws of the world. Naruto did basicaly the same thing, except in a barely more balanced matter. Apart from that, it had a slightly better plot. So Naruto. Then again, I don't like either. [/quote] Raditz had the power to destroy the world. Freeza being at least 1000 times more powerful, should be able to wipe out far more than one planet. If you go by [u]logic and math[/u] Buu has the power to destroy the entire galaxy in a second. But for some reason he doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 [quote name='ADHD-Guitar' timestamp='1288751841' post='4758412'] Raditz had the power to destroy the world. Freeza being at least 1000 times more powerful, should be able to wipe out far more than one planet. If you go by [u]logic and math[/u] Buu has the power to destroy the entire galaxy in a second. But for some reason he doesn't. [/quote] Freeza? A [i]planet[/i]? No. My above post was based on a real report for a book a particular scientist of Japan made for fun. It says that the "sentouryoku" points of a DB character isn't in the normal decimal base system we normally use, after doing some complicated math, thinking of how (i) the combined powers of all mankind were stronger than Buu, and (ii) Kame-Sennin desroyed the Moon. If it's in decimal base, twenty normal people combined can destroy the Moon (which, of course, is near impossible - therefore making decimal base a no-no in this matter). According to the data, if you want the logic that destroyed Buu to be true, it has to be so that a fully charged Freeza can wipe out the whole universe of right now and unleash the power of a thousand Big Bangs (or more, I think. Not sure). Having defeated him, Goku... you don't want to start on him, right? Well, some Japanese scientists are really "fun". They actually used normal logic on an action manga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juuzou Posted November 5, 2010 Report Share Posted November 5, 2010 TC needs to watch more anime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted November 5, 2010 Report Share Posted November 5, 2010 [quote name='ADHD-Guitar' timestamp='1288751841' post='4758412'] Raditz had the power to destroy the world. [/quote] Based on what? That was certainly never stated in the manga/anime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoulish Posted November 5, 2010 Report Share Posted November 5, 2010 based on the fact he was from DBZ? but then again it was never stated so it can't be said, you can say Veggeta when he fought Goku on Earth that he could have destryed the world because he said it. Hmmm, it's a tough one my growing up favourite show was DBZ, the whole Vegeta vs Goku rivalry was a big hit for me, the plots weren't bad and the villains were awesome, also the movies were great, i think for an anime to watch for shear enjoyment is easily DBZ won, however i love Naruto now and although "over rated" it is still a great anime/manga with plenty to offer as shown in the last chapter, so for a more serious aniem id vote that so im kinda like u in a tie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krillin! Posted November 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2010 Ok Ok. But let's talk attacks. Many of the most powerful DBZ attacks are just beams. Naruto attacks have a lot of diversity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted November 5, 2010 Report Share Posted November 5, 2010 [quote name='InuYasha boy707' timestamp='1288956917' post='4763264'] Ok Ok. But let's talk attacks. Many of the most powerful DBZ attacks are just beams. Naruto attacks have a lot of diversity. [/quote] Naruto's attacks are unique, and quite balanced. If I have to choose between which is better, I would definately pick Naruto. But the whole story of DBZ is based on the train-and-win method, so the writer doesn't really care about the attacks much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 [quote name='GenzoTheHarpist' timestamp='1288934540' post='4763009'] Based on what? That was certainly never stated in the manga/anime. [/quote] Master Roshi blew up the moon. Raditz is roughly four times as strong as Master Roshi. The Earth is roughly four times as large as the moon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krillin! Posted November 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 Ok, Ok. But if DBZ has one thing Naruto, it's Transformations! I'd take Super Saiyan over Nine Tails any day.Ok, Ok. But if DBZ has one thing Naruto, it's Transformations! I'd take Super Saiyan over Nine Tails any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grunt Issun Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 DBZ wins, better plot in my oppinion, I like the style better, 10x more awsome attacks, and besides The beams are all pretty much differant somehow, like the angry kamehameha is yellow and fired from one hand... ONE HAND! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 [quote name='Blue eyes + Wynn' timestamp='1289145649' post='4768597'] DBZ wins, better plot in my oppinion, I like the style better, 10x more awsome attacks, and besides The beams are all pretty much differant somehow, like the angry kamehameha is yellow and fired from one hand... ONE HAND! [/quote] 1) DBZ doesn't really have a plot, except for bad guys trying to destroy the world. 2) That's the thing about DBZ attacks, they're ALL THE SAME. Painting it a different color doesn't make it a different attack. IT'S STILL A BEAM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 [quote name='ADHD-Guitar' timestamp='1289184543' post='4770792'] 1) DBZ doesn't really have a plot, except for bad guys trying to destroy the world. 2) That's the thing about DBZ attacks, they're ALL THE SAME. Painting it a different color doesn't make it a different attack. IT'S STILL A BEAM! [/quote] I assume Blue Eyes + Wynn is trying to win at any cost regardless of whether it make sense or not just because he/she saw DBZ and thought it was better than Naruto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krillin! Posted November 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Still in a fight between Super Saiya-jin vs Ninetailed Naruto, I use to think Naruto, but now Goku/Vegeta would win, depending on which one was fighting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 [quote name='InuYasha boy707' timestamp='1289218871' post='4771312'] Still in a fight between Super Saiya-jin vs Ninetailed Naruto, I use to think Naruto, but now Goku/Vegeta would win, depending on which one was fighting. [/quote] Of course. That's exactly why I think DBZ is horrible. Its characters are as OP'ed as hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoulish Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 dbz when compared to dbz isn't overpowered, basically dbz vs dbz character = quite a balanced fight however take bleach for example, bleach character vs bleach character = 1 is Op'd to them max You can't verse DBZ against any other anime because the characters are above superhuman in every dimension of fighting, they far exceed any other anime abilities, so from the start its not a fair fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 [quote name='Bluster Soldier' timestamp='1289476185' post='4776220'] dbz when compared to dbz isn't overpowered, basically dbz vs dbz character = quite a balanced fight however take bleach for example, bleach character vs bleach character = 1 is Op'd to them max You can't verse DBZ against any other anime because the characters are above superhuman in every dimension of fighting, they far exceed any other anime abilities, so from the start its not a fair fight. [/quote] That's exactly what I'm trying to say. If every single character is so overpowered, it [i]does[/i] balances the fights, but... oh wait. You've got one thing wrong. The powers of DBZ characters are widely ranged, it's just that they don't fight if they're so. Apart from that, I believe that power balance against the [i]world[/i] is also a must in manga or anime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoulish Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 at moments in your [post it seemed like you were agreeing with ame and at moments it seemed like you weren't lol but thats what im trying to say i think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacoby746 Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 Logic? DBZ's a show where guys shoot energy beams from their hands and can turn their hair blond at will. There's no logic here. DBZ > Naruto (IMO) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 [quote name='Jacoby746' timestamp='1289631356' post='4780943'] Logic? DBZ's a show where guys shoot energy beams from their hands and can turn their hair blond at will. There's no logic here. DBZ > Naruto (IMO) [/quote] Your first sentence sounds like something the Abridged Series would say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Duelist Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 WTH! I can't believe DBZ is winning. What happened to all you Naruto fans with Naruto sigz and all that stuff??? I'm not a Naruto addict, but I just like it better cause I actually no what it's about, unlike DBZ. I saw this episode where this guy, (I think it was Goku, he had blonde hair) shot this big ball of fire thing at his enemy and actually flew.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Amazing Avian Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 Let's see a Rasengan go up against a Spirit Bomb and see which attack is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krillin! Posted November 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 You would have to use Rasengan vs. Kamehameha because they are both Signature Moves. Still.... DBZ Had some good moves like SOLAR FLARE That thing Vegeta did on Planet Namek when he shaped his hand like a gun, said "Bang" and shot someone. Spirit Ball Kaio-ken Spirit Bomb Time Freeze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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