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[DL]

[quote name='JoshIcy' timestamp='1287940282' post='4732290']
Since Multiquote doesn't work for me I will have to do it the Dark way.

[i]"*Looks for RP, Looks for RP, looks for RP*
I see no mention of RPs. "[/i]
That is because I know NOTHING of the RP situation, and there hasn't been anything new on it even on the most vague of ends.

[i]"@DL: Really, we just need strict rules for CC. "[/i]
There are a lot of rules already that result in Instant banning and these days I do PM a member when they have broken a rule (before I used to leave it up to the responsibility of the member but that's terribly optimistic for YCM don't you think?).

[i]"We should bring ragnarok back and make him a mod of RC because he rates."[/i]
You have a snowballs chance in hell of that happening, and the sun don't shine very bright down there. It's all fire and brimstone.

[i]"Icy isn't a good enough mod to. He uses emotions, not rational thought. And when he has something on his mind, he won't listen to people."[/i]
Aren't you the misinformed one? I [u]SHOW[/u] emotions, I use rational thought (as you called it) but I mask that due to personal vanity; rest assured I do use Logic/Reasoning. Though if you bothered to pay attention, whenever a Problem arises I often open up a discussion thread and shift the ultimatum to work with what people say or not do anything at all. You say I don't listen?! YOU DON'T SPEAK! How can I hear that which has no voice?

Or am I supposed to just sit back and make assumed changes that I THINK is going on inside of your cranium and then further receive more hostility for it? Haha, no thanks. I'd rather let the QQer's have one track and not multiple to follow. [b]Leaves me only one mess to deal with[/b]. Actions dictate your worth in CC, not how much you think you know. And if I remember Dark Link, you're active in Pop Culture are you not? How's the situation there?

And yes Smesh, I can't be here all the time. But I try and make-up for it. Not working well but we'll figure something out ^^.
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I never said you don't listen to me, I said people.

I'd like to point out an instance that happened in the past, just for it not to be said I don't know what I'm talking about.

A while back, the member Amaterasu was banned, because of a certain link in his sig (not quite sure what it was)

BUT

After Amaterasu was banned, J-Max (a mod at the time) learned of it, and said something along the lines of "That's a laughable reason to perma-ban someone, a sig edit would be enough".

Now, before it is stated J-Max has posted innapropriate pictures, this instance happend BEFORE said picture incident.

I was also informed J-Max tried, to some extent, to convince you otherwise, but failed.

Now, I could be wrong, but it does seem to me that, since he stated a sig change was enough, and tried to convince you of it, yet failed, that you stuck with the idea banning Amaterasu was the right thing to do.

As for the bold, I'd just like to point out it is a mod's duty to deal with every mess he fels necessarity to in order to make the forum better.

And, to answer your question, no I am not so active in Pop Culture was I once was, but from the times I do pop in there I see less and less quality cards (could just be because cards seemed to suck much less from when I ddin't know how to make good ones)

It seems the rules have such a tight frip on members, they either stop coming, stop caring about the rules, or try and adjust.

The first is bad for forum activity.
The second is bad for the forum, and you, as it leaves you with more 'messes to deal with'
The third is bad for the members, because if they fail to adjust, they are...screwed.

[FTW (For The Wynn)]

[quote name='Anbu-of-Sand' timestamp='1287955900' post='4733235']
Update on the situation please?
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Well, we have a few more members joining in on the debate and as of right now there isn't much tension but so far, minimal process. But, the mods are looking for a couple of new mods.

[Anbu-of-Sand]

[quote name='FTW (For The Wynn)' timestamp='1287956095' post='4733246']
Well, we have a few more members joining in on the debate and as of right now there isn't much tension but so far, minimal process. But, the mods are looking for a couple of new mods.
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Hm I see. Also by what I skimmed through, I read that Josh said something about if the Custom Card Forum needed a new mod, one that is active in all parts of the Forum, not just Realistic. Which raises the question, do we have any members in mind that fit these requirements so far?

[DL]

I don't know anyone who just goes through like msot of the forum.

I go to C&O (my 22000+ posts from there prove it)

I also do RPs sometimes, rarely.

And I make cards a bit more often than I RP.

I also go to general on occasion.

And Anime/manga.


A couple times in intro.

>.>

<.<

But I'm not mod-material, I'm not serious enough D:

[Clair]

Introductions could use a new mod.
But it isn't really a priority right now.

For me, the modship priorities right now are in

- Realistic Cards and/or Custom Cards
- Role-playing

That's just my opinion, of course.

[Anbu-of-Sand]

[quote name='Clair' timestamp='1287956946' post='4733314']
Introductions could use a new mod.
But it isn't really a priority right now.

For me, the priorities right now are

- Realistic Cards and/or Custom Cards
- Role-playing

That's just my opinion, of course.
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I've skimmed through the Introductions Forum, and to be honest, I don't think they need a mod.

[Clair]

[quote name='Anbu-of-Sand' timestamp='1287957199' post='4733336']
I've skimmed through the Introductions Forum, and to be honest, I don't think they need a mod.
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You make a point. That's why it's not a priority. However, I've noticed certain members just post the same thing over and over, like some sort of automated greeting. That irks me.

Since glasstin left, I don't think Intros has [i]any[/i] mods.

[DL]

Hmm, as long as someone sets up clear rules, and checks quite often, I don't think they do need a specific mod.


Also, I think the C&O section needs a mod besides FD.

HE OBVIOUSLY can't go to every club and check every post, especially because clubs (and games) make the biggest threads, for the most part.

He can't do it alone, and thus why so many clubs get away with spam, and even worse, there are some clubs with no topics that escape him (he caught Random whatever, which I believe was a club about no specific topic. He caught Club Random/Rawrdom. He caught a lot more. But I doubt that he can get them ALL. And if one can get away with it, I think others will try)

[FTW (For The Wynn)]

Intro forum isn't all that bad, some stuff happens but it's just spam and a couple of disagreements. What really needs focus [s]is[/s] are the forums that definitely need improvement. For example, Your Deck has been popping up a few times.

Edit: If I wish to make a valid point, you would think I would use proper grammar...I meant are...

[Anbu-of-Sand]

[quote name='Clair' timestamp='1287957330' post='4733347']
You make a point. That's why it's not a priority. However, I've noticed certain members just post the same thing over and over, like some sort of automated greeting. That irks me.

Since glasstin left, I don't think Intros has [i]any[/i] mods.
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To be honest, I just think of Introductions as a the +1 post part of the Forum.

[Clair]

[quote name='Anbu-of-Sand' timestamp='1287957467' post='4733356']
To be honest, I just think of Introductions as a the +1 post part of the Forum.
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xD
Exactly.

As Darklink brought up, I too think C&O needs another mod. You can get away with literally anything there.
If Introductions is the +1 part of the forum, then Clubs and Organizations must be the +9001 part of the forum.

[Anbu-of-Sand]

[quote name='Clair' timestamp='1287957606' post='4733366']
xD
Exactly.

As Darklink brought up, I too think C&O needs another mod. You can get away with literally anything there.
If Introductions is the +1 part of the forum, then Clubs and Organizations must be the +9001 part of the forum.
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[strike]ITS OVER 9000!!!![/strike]
True, but at least it's not the same sentence over and over again.

[Icy]

[quote name='Dark Link 401' timestamp='1287956084' post='4733245']
[s]I never said you don't listen to me, I said people.[/s]

I'd like to point out an instance that happened in the past, just for it not to be said I don't know what I'm talking about.
A while back, the member Amaterasu was banned, because of a certain link in his sig (not quite sure what it was)
BUT
After Amaterasu was banned, J-Max (a mod at the time) learned of it, and said something along the lines of "That's a laughable reason to perma-ban someone, a sig edit would be enough".
Now, before it is stated J-Max has posted innapropriate pictures, this instance happend BEFORE said picture incident.
I was also informed J-Max tried, to some extent, to convince you otherwise, but failed.
Now, I could be wrong, but it does seem to me that, since he stated a sig change was enough, and tried to convince you of it, yet failed, that you stuck with the idea banning Amaterasu was the right thing to do.
[color=blue][b]I honestly do not remember this situation at all. But I wouldn't react in such a way unless it was severe, ie: Conflicted as what to do. Since it went both ways, with Member Favor leaning on one. I chose the greater of 2 evils since it must have been that bad (if it was an adult pic; this is a site for children you DONT HAVE AN EXCUSE). So yeah, memories not the best there.[/b][/color]


As for the bold, I'd just like to point out it is a mod's duty to deal with every mess he fels necessarity to in order to make the forum better.
[color=blue][b]And I don't feel like it's necessary to deal with QQers all the time when I log in.[/b][/color]

And, to answer your question, no I am not so active in Pop Culture was I once was, but from the times I do pop in there I see less and less quality cards (could just be because cards seemed to suck much less from when I ddin't know how to make good ones).
[color=blue][b]So fix it, that's a social level problem.[/b][/color]

It seems the rules have such a tight frip on members, they either stop coming, stop caring about the rules, or try and adjust.
[color=blue][b]Oh gotta love scare tactics. I just want people in line and a slap on a wrist just made them complain more. But it's never as severe as I make it out to be .[/b][/color]

[s]The first is bad for forum activity.
The second is bad for the forum, and you, as it leaves you with more 'messes to deal with'
The third is bad for the members, because if they fail to adjust, they are...screwed.[/s]
[/quote]

Opinions are fun aren't they? Apparently you need to be active there more :/

[DL]

xD

I wonder why they havent disabled post count in intro. Oh yeah, cause then the noobs would be left with like 2 people introducing them in ¬¬


But some clubs go COMPLETELY off topic ;___;

I mean, we end up talking about sex in a code geass club.

What the fauk?


EDIT:

It was not a pic, it was a link (to what, idk), but, I can see from your point how you'd try to prevent it from being there if it was innapropriate, for the younger members of the forum.

You should, if only because dealing with questions may be a pain, but in the end, it benefits the member. Unless, of course, the question is just plain stupid.

How can I fix people's degrating card quality? I said it OCULD be because cards seemed better back then, but cards/card raters really were better at the time I made cards.

Not everyone sees the rules that way, and it's not a scare tactic. It's the truth, I honestly do believe if nothing is done, the RC section really will fall into a pit of inactiveness.


What happens when the veterans quit making cards cause they only get rated by new members, who really suck at advice, a lot of times?

What happens when the only people we have left making cards are noobs?

Older members will either

A. troll them for bad cards
B. not rate them

A is bad, B is worse.


And actually, yes I do. I just haven't had much time to. Altho it's more of an educted guess than an opinion.

[♥Łövëły-Ċħän♥]

Dear gawd Dx why do you guys go through so damn quick!? I just got done reading the posts i missed and you guys just doubled the load T.T thanks.

[Blake]

[quote name='♥Łövëły Ċ.Ċ♥' timestamp='1287958488' post='4733417']
Dear gawd Dx why do you guys go through so damn quick!? I just got done reading the posts i missed and you guys just doubled the load T.T thanks.
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*Shrug* Popular/Important clubs have this happen. Yo uget used to it. 45 % of the time, you should just use the power of tl;dr.

[DL]

I actually read through the epically long shiz I saw.

IDK how I managed to catch up >.>

[Smesh]

So, which section is of higher priority? RP or Customs?

[Icy]

Result A cannot happen. That is legitimate grounds for Permabanning- Zero Tolerance for Trolling.. [b][u]And again, that's ENTIRELY A SOCIAL ISSUE! DON'T PUT YOUR LITTLE QUARRELS ON MY BACK! If you refuse to help out on an issue you helped create, my hands are tied.[/u][/b] I come here for clarifying things and you blame me for garbage that isn't even something that a Moderator can handle, because they don't deal with Social Level problems. Mind you, what people fail to get is that Moderators are member's just as much as you and I, we just have to deal with all this.

And most questions are just plain stupid, or require 3-4 paragraphs of a response.

[Blake]

[quote name='Smesh' timestamp='1287959351' post='4733465']
So, which section is of higher priority? RP or Customs?
[/quote]
Arrpe- *Shot*

No, CC is the one.

[DL]

I actually am not blaming you, or putting any problems (aside from the one mentioned below) on you, if it seemed that way, I apologize.

Nor do I have any quarrels at all, I'm not sure how you got that from my post...

Basically, the message I wanted to get across is, perhaps rules in CC should loosen a biit more, to give members a bit more air.

Idk if it would work to bring activity to CC, or make it better, but it can't hurt to try.

if anything, you CAN just up the rules to what they are now, if it fails.


But if you believe the CC section is fine as is, then of course, I am in no place to say you wrong.

It is merely a guess and an idea to a possible solution.

[Shadow Zero]

Here's what I think.

1: CC needs more mods so that the workload isn't put all on one increasingly cranky person.

2: The rules DO need to be loosened up a bit, as having them at such improbable standards is what got a frequent poster in CC banned. I won't say who, but I think some of you will know what I mean.

3: If someone does make stupid replies in CC [b][u]Don't simply say that they are crap and leave it it at that. Actually point out what is wrong with the post and take things from there, otherwise you are guilty of trolling or flaming.[/b][/u] I have heard of situations where this has happened in the past.

If the above three are able to all be done, (and on a constant basis for the third one) Then it will help to greatly improve the section, and when someone gets banned for violation of the rules, they can't simply say that they mods are abusing their power because they would have been given fair warning at the first.

[Anbu-of-Sand]

[quote name='Shadow Zero' timestamp='1287960257' post='4733521']
Here's what I think.

1: CC needs more mods so that the workload isn't put all on one increasingly cranky person.

2: The rules DO need to be loosened up a bit, as having them at such improbable standards is what got a frequent poster in CC banned. I won't say who, but I think some of you will know what I mean.

3: If someone does make stupid replies in CC [b][u]Don't simply say that they are crap and leave it it at that. Actually point out what is wrong with the post and take things from there, otherwise you are guilty of trolling or flaming.[/b][/u] I have heard of situations where this has happened in the past.

If the above three are able to all be done, (and on a constant basis for the third one) Then it will help to greatly improve the section, and when someone gets banned for violation of the rules, they can't simply say that they mods are abusing their power because they would have been given fair warning at the first.
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Custom Cards needs in my opinion 3-4 Mods at the least for Custom Cards to a tad more, 'better'.

[FTW (For The Wynn)]

[quote name='Anbu-of-Sand' timestamp='1287960919' post='4733557']
Custom Cards needs in my opinion 3-4 Mods at the least for Custom Cards to a tad more, 'better'.
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From that stance, I would say 3, just in case 2 argue over a particular punishment the third could be tiebreaker. I'm just saying.

[DL]

3 mods for CC would be perfect.

Not only would it take off workload from one person, but it would greatly improve the section, in and of itself.