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[quote name='Fading Black' timestamp='1291963347' post='4841203']
A deck that uses Grand Core + Grannel + Pieces and other Lv. 1 monster to get out Sleeping Giant Thud.

Duel Monsters Genesis
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lolGrannelsleepingThud. But, Zushin needs Normal Monster. In anime, Team Taiyo used Key Mace to summon Zushin...I prefer to call it Zushin, 'cause Thud just sounds...uuughhggh.

[quote name='Tomtekorv' timestamp='1292001913' post='4841674']
Just watched 138. Oh god. The thing that amazed me the most was that there was no duel in the episode...
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:lol:
Even without the duel, the episode was interesting tho.

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[quote name='Lexadin' timestamp='1292009578' post='4841887']
I mean, the Egyptian ones could do well without a duel disk of some kind to make them apear.
[b]They can't work without D-Disk and a great duelist.
Only Atem can summon them without D-Disk or Diadhank, using his powers. [/b]

While these disapear as soon as the plug is removed.
[b]lolplugremoved. Tho, you're right. In 138 episode, 'cause of D-Wheel malfunction, Polar Gods disappeared. I mean, hell, they are Polar Gods. It would be obvious that they can "live" without the momentum's or whatever's energy.[/b]
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[quote name='Fading Black' timestamp='1292010449' post='4841917']
No, Thud does NOT need a Normal monster. It needs Lv. 1 monsters.

At least, it does not on DMG.
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Yu-Gi-Oh! Wikia says:

This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card cannot be Special Summoned except by Tributing 1 [b]Level 1 Normal Monster [/b]that has remained face-up on your side of the field for 10 or more of your turns. If this card battles with an opponent's monster, until the end of the Damage Step, it gains ATK and DEF equal to the ATK of the opponent's monster + 1000 and that monster's effect(s) is negated. This card cannot be targeted by the effects of your opponent's Spell, Trap, or Effect Monster Cards.


Oh well, maybe the effect is different on DMG.
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[quote name='Fading Black' timestamp='1292010758' post='4841933']
*Shrug* DMG says nothing about Normal Monsters. At all.
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Then...Grannel Sleeping Zushin works in DMG =D

[quote name='Naturia Melon' timestamp='1292010974' post='4841945']
do you think it would work if you had a level 3 vanilla on the feild for 10 turns and then equipped [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Demotion"]demotion?[/url]
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Eh...idk. It would probably work. But Demotion is a Equip Spell and can be easily MST'd or something like that. It would work, but...nah.
Generally, Zushin IS terrible.
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[quote name='^_^AxManBoy^_^' timestamp='1292016453' post='4842162']
I dont really get the DMG part. But that cause I dont have been able to check for sometimes and I have bad memory for stuffs that are important to me
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If you don't know the topic, that doesn't allow you to spam. If you don't know the topic, either read the preview posts or stay out of the topic.

Anyway...new topic?
- Machine Emperor Dragon Asterisk (?)
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[spoiler=Made this a in 09 tell me what you think if you care]
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This card cannot be Special Summoned. If this card is Tribute Summoned the tributes must be "x1" monsters. This card is uneffected by all Synchro monster(s) effects. Once per turn you can choose upto 2 cards on the field and destroy them. When this face-up card is destroyed by he effect of a Tuner monster destroy all face-up Tuner monsters on the field.

The X1 arechtype I made because I was goig to use them aginst my friends and destroy things such as Stardustdragon ect because they just annoyed me.
Any ways the archtype is anti-Synchro changes monsters except X1 monsters into Tuners and trys to beat them that way but thanks RDAs Synchro Red Nova Dragon using a deck that does that is very risky any ways just tell me what you think.
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Anyways Cubic's effect is up on yugioh wikia for those who don't know
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Cubic got super nerfed. Thank God.

It was a walking OTK, otherwise ._.

But, where Anime Cubic was Splashable, the real Cubic is not.

And it's conditions... Ugh, it's a Barely Improved Armityle. You'd have to run the Emperors in 3s.

And it gets rid of the Synchro during the STANDBY Phase ._.
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[quote name='Fading Black' timestamp='1292017652' post='4842211']
But, where Anime Cubic was Splashable, the real Cubic is not.

And it's conditions... Ugh, it's a Barely Improved Armityle. You'd have to run the Emperors in 3s.
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I was planing to do that anyways because I was going to abuse their effects about "This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card cannot be Special Summoned except from your hand when a face-up monster you control is destroyed by a card effect and sent to the Graveyard." with destruction cards ect.
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[quote name='Fading Black' timestamp='1292019482' post='4842299']
You can also abuse it with Koa'Ki Meirus. You can SS the Emperors when a KM suicides.
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You know thats a good Idea...I was just going to abuse things like the Contin. Trap that destroys a monster after damage cal. from a direct atk but things Like power hand ect just found a place....hmmmm thx
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[quote name='Naturia Melon' timestamp='1292023651' post='4842531']
a ocean/cloudian deck has got to be top for ME's, if you draw one just switch a cloudian to defence position.
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However in a Scrap of ME Deck you can abuse Solidarity, and you can use the effects of your monsters to take adventage AND SS a ME =3
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