Infinity Inc.

[Squirrel Girl]

Black Feathered Dragon will probably get an evolved Synchro, but what will it be, if they actually would make one? An accel or like SRND, you need 2 Tuners?

[hexcalibrate]

i think they need a new way to synchro something like a tuner only synchro

[Dementuo]

However, that would prevent it from being an evolution of a Signer dragon, as none of them are Synchro Tuners.
Still sounds like an interesting idea, though.

[Squirrel Girl]

... Like a Tuner only Synchro?

What you mean?

Also I think it will be a new way to summon a new sort of Synchro monster

[hexcalibrate]

i think it would be great if they evolve the siner dragons into dark synchros just for no reason

[Squirrel Girl]

Yea, cause then, ME's couldn't absorb them ^^

[Ярополк Пономарёв]

Who here thinks Rua should be a Signer?

[hexcalibrate]

no hes the comedy relief, it's supposed to be funny that his whole exsistance is he is the lesser half of his socially awkward sister

[Squirrel Girl]

Not me, think of it like this, Crow, Yusei, Aki, Jack and Ruka all have dragons, Rua does not

Rua is an average duelist, Ruka too, but if she weren't a Signer, it would have been sexist

And Power Tool Dragon is a Machine, not a Dragon, so that wouldn't have made sense

[Dementuo]

However, PTD was originally Gladiator Dragon, but was, I assume, mortally wounded, and was re-made.

[hexcalibrate]

but the fifth dragon in ruka's dream is rua's power tool dragon but just with a modern image, when the game was susposed to have been created 5000 years ago (as said in the first series) their were no machines. so some monsters had to be teched up and thats what probaly happened rua's dragon.

[Ярополк Пономарёв]

[i]Someone make Power tool Dragon a DRAGON please. [/i]Really though, i dont know really because when have we seen Rua and Ruka recently?

[hexcalibrate]

in the pit crew, they just haven't done anything for a while.

[Ovedrive]

Ok, so as we all know, we have ranks in this club:
[b]1. Cubic (Leader and Co-Leader)
2. Grannel (Advanced)
2. Skiel (Intermediate)
3. Wisel (Beginning)[/b]

So...I'll suggest these promotions to Big Chill:
[b]Wisel -> Grannel[/b]
~Cherry~
evilfusion
Lexadin (It was a tough decision to put Lex in Grannel)

[b]Wisel -> Skiel[/b]
Sakura Haruno
^_^AxManBoy^_^
Lazaruz

If members in Skiel will be more active and stuff, they'll become Grannel. I made this suggestions 'cause we have all members in Wisel, which is....eh.
So...to make this club's ranks interesting, I made these...
*sending PM to Big Chill nao*

[Ярополк Пономарёв]

Where am I?

[Ovedrive]

[quote name='Anger Level' timestamp='1291633743' post='4833727']
Where am I?
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lmfao
You joined just few weeks ago (I think). These members are active, they joined a long time ago, and they always have good posts/conversations....and they're great members.

You still don't deserve to have a promotion. I don't even know why the heck do you EVEN ask to be promoted...

[Shalltear Bloodfallen]

(Somewhat returning to previous topic regarding the signer dragons)

Am I the only one here that feels Crow, Aki and Ruka are in general very underappreciated in the entire WRGP arc?

Both Yusei and Jack have had tons of screentime and plot focus since the WRGP Arc began (I´m well aware that it is expected regarding Yusei since he is the main-character), and are the only ones in the team that has uppgraded synchros.

Crow has atleast been allowed to duel a few times during the entire WRGP arc but has done little to nothing that has been important to the plot besides that and almost allways ended up getting his ass kicked during the WRGP duels.

Ruka has had a proper duel ONE proper duel that I can remember, togeather with Rua (even he has had atleast two duels in total during WRGP) while they were facing Lucciano, but they were both being owned basicaly from beginning to end of that duel.

Aki had an awesome beginning as the Black-Rose Witch but has stepp by stepp turned more and more useless to the plot since she became friends with Yusei, close to the end of the Fortune Cup arc (I know she has had the [b]occasional[/b] semi-plot-important duel/appearance since then, but that is just about it.)
They even stated at some point that her psychic powers are right now far weaker than what they used to be.


Regarding exactly why I´m pissed at this is when you put a character in the intro (mainly Aki that I´m speaking of right now since she has been changed the most since The Fortune Cup and Dark Signer arcs), You can, in my opinion, not go and almost nullify the importance that character has to the plot.

I was excited in the beginning when they had Aki (temporarely) replace Crow during the duel against Team Unicorn (I think it was against them atleast).
But they dropped her importance to the plot, even having Crow returning for the next match eventhough he was still injured, just as quickly as they picked it up.

[Lexadin]

[quote name='^_^AxManBoy^_^' timestamp='1291593087' post='4832984']
Yea, cause then, ME's couldn't absorb them ^^
[/quote]

Actually, Dark Synchro's are still treated as Synchro's. Just more awsome looking.

[quote name='.:Overdrive:.' timestamp='1291632658' post='4833716']
Ok, so as we all know, we have ranks in this club:
[b]1. Cubic (Leader and Co-Leader)
2. Grannel (Advanced)
2. Skiel (Intermediate)
3. Wisel (Beginning)[/b]

So...I'll suggest these promotions to Big Chill:
[b]Wisel -> Grannel[/b]
~Cherry~
evilfusion
Lexadin (It was a tough decision to put Lex in Grannel)

[b]Wisel -> Skiel[/b]
Sakura Haruno
^_^AxManBoy^_^
Lazaruz

If members in Skiel will be more active and stuff, they'll become Grannel. I made this suggestions 'cause we have all members in Wisel, which is....eh.
So...to make this club's ranks interesting, I made these...
*sending PM to Big Chill nao*
[/quote]

Yeah!

@Lazarus: Yeah, but I think its all becouse they want to wrap things up a bit, consentrating on most of former Team Satisfaction (why idk). However I agree that they could have made some more duels involving Aki and the Twins. So I hope it will still happen when they split up.

About Aki's powers, I think they "removed" them so that Ylliaster would be more treatening. Seeing as she could have easily destroyed them using her original powers. Well maybe not Jose and probebly not Aporia, but devinatly Lucciano.

[evilfusion]

[quote name='Lazaruz' timestamp='1291646832' post='4833847']
(Somewhat returning to previous topic regarding the signer dragons)

Am I the only one here that feels Crow, Aki and Ruka are in general very underappreciated in the entire WRGP arc?

Both Yusei and Jack have had tons of screentime and plot focus since the WRGP Arc began (I´m well aware that it is expected regarding Yusei since he is the main-character), and are the only ones in the team that has uppgraded synchros.

Crow has atleast been allowed to duel a few times during the entire WRGP arc but has done little to nothing that has been important to the plot besides that and almost allways ended up getting his ass kicked during the WRGP duels.

Ruka has had a proper duel ONE proper duel that I can remember, togeather with Rua (even he has had atleast two duels in total during WRGP) while they were facing Lucciano, but they were both being owned basicaly from beginning to end of that duel.

Aki had an awesome beginning as the Black-Rose Witch but has stepp by stepp turned more and more useless to the plot since she became friends with Yusei, close to the end of the Fortune Cup arc (I know she has had the [b]occasional[/b] semi-plot-important duel/appearance since then, but that is just about it.)
They even stated at some point that her psychic powers are right now far weaker than what they used to be.


Regarding exactly why I´m pissed at this is when you put a character in the intro (mainly Aki that I´m speaking of right now since she has been changed the most since The Fortune Cup and Dark Signer arcs), You can, in my opinion, not go and almost nullify the importance that character has to the plot.

I was excited in the beginning when they had Aki (temporarely) replace Crow during the duel against Team Unicorn (I think it was against them atleast).
But they dropped her importance to the plot, even having Crow returning for the next match eventhough he was still injured, just as quickly as they picked it up.
[/quote]

Not Crow, but the other two are.

Ruka's never been important to the plot, sadly. She and Rua just sort of are background characters with lots of screen time. She doesn't even like to duel very much, despite being a Signer. It goes to show because in the Dark Signer arc, she and Rua dueled the one Dark Signer with ZERO backstory. We dont know anything about Demak's motives or how he became a Dark Signer. He's a filler villain surrounded by real villains and therefore got the least important Signers. Hell, half his duel was interspliced with Ruka's little escapade into the Spirit World, which was...in my opinion, dreadfully dull. And why was Demak given Ancient Fairy Dragon, anyway, aside from his reason to duel Ruka? Rudger had that card, but he gave it to Demak.

The reason for Yusei and Jack is because like all Yu-gi-oh rivals, they get upgrades around the same time as their rival counterparts. Jack has a strong fanbase, I assume, and even though he and Yusei aren't rivals as much, to exclude Jack from upgrades despite strong screentime would be to have Jack fall behind on power and look stupid in comparison.

Crow didn't even become a Signer until episode 64. Then it took about 30 episodes for him to get his Signer Dragon. Crow's fanbase is as large as his hatedom. If they upgrade Blackfeather too early, it'll look stupid, and if they don't do it, HE'LL look stupid. Right now, I think Crow does just fine as the "normal" member of Team 5Ds. Meaning, he doesn't need the fancy upgrades to his deck to hold his own. He did beat Bommer by himself without being a Signer after all, and he's a cool character. Being a Signer actually wasn't the best move for his character, in the sense now he's important, but doesn't have the plots to back it up.

Ruka did get a duel with Lucciano, but that was the extent of her dueling. She doesn't normally duel. Although I do think I should note that Ruka would have won if it weren't for Infinity Force. Her Trap would have dealt 2100 and then she'd use Fairy Archer to deal the rest. The reason she was beaten was because her brother's pathetically predictable and kept falling into everything Lucciano threw at them, his Power Break combo being the only time Lucciano lost control of the duel.

Aki...oh god. I didn't like her very much as the stone-cold person she was. Didnt hate her, but didn't like it, either. After the Dark Signer arc, she mellowed out a LOT, and I didn't like how her psychic powers disappeared post-Team Catastrophe. She's a Signer, and used to be undefeated. Now she's little more than a cheerleader. In the Dark Signer arc, she was unwilling to duel Misty until Divine hypnotized her again.

I'm willing to overlook how little attention she got as far as duels in the WRGP, since she's a learning D-Wheeler, whereas Jack, Crow, and Yusei are much better. But it's an insult to her character to have her dialogue in every episode to amount to little more than "...Yusei" with a worried expression. The duel with Team Unicorn did have the most epic move ever on her part, even though I saw it coming. Summoning Black Rose Dragon and then Stardust Dragon, plus everyone's reactions, was hilarious.

But since then, she's done nothing. She's the only Signer not to have dueled a Machine Emperor, now that Crow and Jack got their rears handed to them by Grannel. However, the Arc Cradle arc indicates she'll have more screen presence, as will Crow, as didn't the summary mention they duel Sherry? Of course, that means Ruka wont get anything, but I dont like her much anyway.

[Lexadin]

Largest... Post... I've... Ever... Seen!

[Shalltear Bloodfallen]

[quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1291648926' post='4833877']
Ruka's never been important to the plot, sadly. She and Rua just sort of are background characters with lots of screen time. She doesn't even like to duel very much, despite being a Signer. It goes to show because in the Dark Signer arc, she and Rua dueled the one Dark Signer with ZERO backstory. We dont know anything about Demak's motives or how he became a Dark Signer. He's a filler villain surrounded by real villains and therefore got the least important Signers. Hell, half his duel was interspliced with Ruka's little escapade into the Spirit World, which was...in my opinion, dreadfully dull. And why was Demak given Ancient Fairy Dragon, anyway, aside from his reason to duel Ruka? Rudger had that card, but he gave it to Demak.
[/quote]

Oh yeah.
If Ruka´s (incredibly boring and dull) escape into the Spirit World wasn´t meant to show she will never be more than a background character with Signer powers (I´m honestly starting to think what AxManBoy said about Ruka getting Signer powers prevents it from being sexist, is the true case with Ruka)

And they could have done anything with Demak´s backstory, because then he would have atleast had one!

[quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1291648926' post='4833877']
Crow didn't even become a Signer until episode 64. Then it took about 30 episodes for him to get his Signer Dragon. Crow's fanbase is as large as his hatedom. If they upgrade Blackfeather too early, it'll look stupid, and if they don't do it, HE'LL look stupid. Right now, I think Crow does just fine as the "normal" member of Team 5Ds. Meaning, he doesn't need the fancy upgrades to his deck to hold his own. He did beat Bommer by himself without being a Signer after all, and he's a cool character. Being a Signer actually wasn't the best move for his character, in the sense now he's important, but doesn't have the plots to back it up.
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True.

And when I think about it that way it does kind of work having Crow be the more normal Signer, he only needs more importance to the plot to back it up.

Yusei got his powers from ZONE (God basicaly)
Jack got his powers from Scar-Red (a.k.a The 5D´s version of The Devil) and his Burning Soul.
Crow is in the middle, only having the powers of a Signer.

The fact that they made Crow a Signer didn´t bother me that much since I allways thought it fits atleast somewhat good.
Yusei, Jack and Crow have been best friends since they were kids (If i remember correctly), and the powers of Signers have been stated multiple times to create a very strong bond between the Signers.

I honestly questioned why Crow was brought into the story untill he was made a Signer.

[quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1291648926' post='4833877']
Ruka did get a duel with Lucciano, but that was the extent of her dueling. She doesn't normally duel. Although I do think I should note that Ruka would have won if it weren't for Infinity Force. Her Trap would have dealt 2100 and then she'd use Fairy Archer to deal the rest. The reason she was beaten was because her brother's pathetically predictable and kept falling into everything Lucciano threw at them, his Power Break combo being the only time Lucciano lost control of the duel.
[/quote]

I never thought of that (Or atleast, I did not remember it).
But it was almost painfull seing Rua time after time fall into every trap that Lucciano set up for them,
not to mention the obvious moves.

[quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1291648926' post='4833877']
Aki...oh god. I didn't like her very much as the stone-cold person she was. Didnt hate her, but didn't like it, either. After the Dark Signer arc, she mellowed out a LOT, and I didn't like how her psychic powers disappeared post-Team Catastrophe. She's a Signer, and used to be undefeated. Now she's little more than a cheerleader. In the Dark Signer arc, she was unwilling to duel Misty until Divine hypnotized her again.

I'm willing to overlook how little attention she got as far as duels in the WRGP, since she's a learning D-Wheeler, whereas Jack, Crow, and Yusei are much better. But it's an insult to her character to have her dialogue in every episode to amount to little more than "...Yusei" with a worried expression. The duel with Team Unicorn did have the most epic move ever on her part, even though I saw it coming. Summoning Black Rose Dragon and then Stardust Dragon, plus everyone's reactions, was hilarious.

But since then, she's done nothing. She's the only Signer not to have dueled a Machine Emperor, now that Crow and Jack got their rears handed to them by Grannel. However, the Arc Cradle arc indicates she'll have more screen presence, as will Crow, as didn't the summary mention they duel Sherry? Of course, that means Ruka wont get anything, but I dont like her much anyway.
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I have acctually found myself liking the more coldhearted/badass characters in every anime, especialy regarding the girls.
If there is one thing that I hate about a serie in general is when there is only girl characters that simply exists to bring boobs or create some romantic tension between it and the main character, and having little to no impact on the overall plot.

But it is true that regarding the duels against other teams in the WRGP, Aki fits more as a replacement since she is still new to Turbo Duels.
However, her being transformed into little more than a cheerleader for the rest of the team, is an insult to the character they made in the beginning and what they could have made her into instead of this.

I forgot about the summary for the next episode (currently a little tired after a hard day), and I am excited to see if this could be the start of a needed turnaround for characters like Aki, for an example.

@Lexadin

Possible, eventhough most of the known members of Yliaster has/had powers of their own, simmilar to hers or atleast, powers that would likely be able to easily counter her powers since Aki had yet to learn how to truly and fully control them last time I checked (before they stated that her powers were as good as gone).

[Cloister]

I'm still Wisel...

Well, considering 2 months is a long time, it's 100% understandable.

[Lexadin]

@Lazarus: Sounds fair enough.

@Tom: Yeah, but Wisel's still nice.

[Squirrel Girl]

Wisel is my least favorit ME. I just cant like that big killing machine

[hexcalibrate]

yeah mine too, its easy to summon (compared to cubic), out of them it has a fairly decent effect, and with a ATK of 2500 its better than skiel and grannel (and since its ATK is more than likely to go below 2000). it is the best ME.