Shalltear Bloodfallen Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 [quote name='~Cherry~' timestamp='1291407737' post='4826395'] MINUS AND PLUS MOOOOOOOOOMENTUM I love that guy. <3 [/quote] I was overjoyed to see him again since he was basicaly removed from the entire 5D´s anime for quite a while. MOOOOOOOOMENTUM WILL NEVER DIE AS A MEME! [quote name='~Cherry~' timestamp='1291407737' post='4826395'] I still don't understand why Placido was always the arrogant one then. Was Aporia that arrogant when he was an adult? [/quote] Good question. He deffinetely did not look that arrogant in the flash-back. I will chosee to stick by the theory that they all carried a piece of Aporia´s personality, regardless how stupid it may sound. Placido was arrogant. Lucciano was sadistic. José was overconfident. I can personaly find all those pieces in Aporia, and since they all were a part of him, it sounds atleast somewhat logic in my ears that they also should carry other pieces of him, except the origin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iCherry Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 [quote name='HadesRuler' timestamp='1291407988' post='4826408'] Well, that would be because he was in his adulthood then, and was the time when he was more arrogant, also being Lucciano the childish one and Jose the old wise man (ironically). [/quote] I understand that. I'm asking if Aporia really WAS that arrogant as Placido. [quote name='Lazaruz' timestamp='1291408310' post='4826425'] I was overjoyed to see him again since he was basicaly removed from the entire 5D´s anime for quite a while. MOOOOOOOOMENTUM WILL NEVER DIE AS A MEME! Good question. He deffinetely did not look that arrogant in the flash-back. I will chosee to stick by the theory that they all carried a piece of Aporia´s personality, regardless how stupid it may sound. Placido was arrogant. Lucciano was sadistic. José was overconfident. I can personaly find all those pieces in Aporia, and since they all were a part of him, it sounds atleast somewhat logic in my ears that they also should carry other pieces of him, except the origin. [/quote] 5D's has the most awesome memes. BELIEVE IN NEXUSSSSSSSS MOOOOOOOOOMENTUM When he was laughing like a maniac and telling Yusei that all hope was lost about 20 times, I guess that was Lucciano. When he was going on about Cubic and power, that could've been Placido. Not to mention his "BAKANA" in 136 that was EXACTLY like Placido. Dreading on about the future and trying to keep the promise with his friends could've been Jose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovedrive Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 [quote name='Lazaruz' timestamp='1291408310' post='4826425'] MOOOOOOOOMENTUM WILL NEVER DIE AS A MEME! [/quote] AS A CO-LEADAH OF DIS CLUB...I DECLARE MOOOMENTUM AS OFFICIAL MEME OF INFINTY INC. Nah, just kidding. But if you want, ok then =D. [b]HUGE EDIT[/b] BELIEVE IN NEXUUUUSSSS is also a official meme ;D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hexcalibrate Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 The momentum guy is the greatest character in the series (screw you yusei) That would make the most sense given their induvidual experiences so far, i just find it ironic that they're using the emperors despite the fact that they ruined their life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 ^Agreed^ Maybe they had to use them in exchange for being reincarnated but IDK. Too much stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovedrive Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 [quote name='Naturia Melon' timestamp='1291408637' post='4826448'] The momentum is the greatest character in the series (screw you yusei) [/quote] Momentum is a machine, not a character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRuler Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 [quote name='~Cherry~' timestamp='1291408573' post='4826441'] I understand that. I'm asking if Aporia really WAS that arrogant as Placido. [/quote] Maybe, during his adulthood he was arrogant, but we actually don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 Placido's main character trait isn't "arrogance" per se. It's pride and impatience. Lucciano is arrogant (Placido noted this in episode 78). There's a subtle difference between pride and arrogance. Pride is having a strong opinion of yourself. Arrogance is having an excessively high opinion of yourself. Placido appeared more arrogant when facing Yusei because he had a vendetta against Yusei and a need to feel that the first victory against Wisel was a fluke. Yusei's the only human Placido felt threatened by, hence his tendency to mock Yusei's worth and keep reiterating how useless he was before the Machine Emperor. Remember, Lucciano, Placido, and Jose felt they were chosen and guided by God (ZONE), so Yusei getting Shooting Star Dragon was insulting to Placido, who felt Yusei was nothing important and endlessly tried to justify that Yusei was chosen on a whim, not actually being a chosen one or destined to win. Against Jack, Placido showed no real concern, and in fact could have beaten him. This continues to show Placido only feels rivaled by Yusei. Even in 134, when Lucciano was mocking Crow's last-ditch effort, Placido said Yusei was a bigger concern, to which Lucciano asked if Placido was overestimating Yusei. When Aporia spoke to Yusei in 135, he noted Yusei is as strong as he expected. Placido makes up the bulk of Aporia's personality. Same voice actor, same facial expressions and appearance, etc. Whereas Jose was calm and patient, Aporia and Placido often got upset easily. Aporia's facial expressions got warped a lot during his duel, and I swear he had to be bipolar or something to get that worked up all the time, before settling back into his mannerisms of control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iCherry Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 ...I still Placido is the arrogant one. Lucciano seems to be more of the sadistic one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shalltear Bloodfallen Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1291409413' post='4826496'] Placido's main character trait isn't "arrogance" per se. It's pride and impatience. Lucciano is arrogant (Placido noted this in episode 78). There's a subtle difference between pride and arrogance. Pride is having a strong opinion of yourself. Arrogance is having an excessively high opinion of yourself. Placido appeared more arrogant when facing Yusei because he had a vendetta against Yusei and a need to feel that the first victory against Wisel was a fluke. Yusei's the only human Placido felt threatened by, hence his tendency to mock Yusei's worth and keep reiterating how useless he was before the Machine Emperor. Remember, Lucciano, Placido, and Jose felt they were chosen and guided by God (ZONE), so Yusei getting Shooting Star Dragon was insulting to Placido, who felt Yusei was nothing important and endlessly tried to justify that Yusei was chosen on a whim, not actually being a chosen one or destined to win. Against Jack, Placido showed no real concern, and in fact could have beaten him. This continues to show Placido only feels rivaled by Yusei. Even in 134, when Lucciano was mocking Crow's last-ditch effort, Placido said Yusei was a bigger concern, to which Lucciano asked if Placido was overestimating Yusei. When Aporia spoke to Yusei in 135, he noted Yusei is as strong as he expected. Placido makes up the bulk of Aporia's personality. Same voice actor, same facial expressions and appearance, etc. Whereas Jose was calm and patient, Aporia and Placido often got upset easily. Aporia's facial expressions got warped a lot during his duel, and I swear he had to be bipolar or something to get that worked up all the time, before settling back into his mannerisms of control. [/quote] So true. I allways get Arrogance and Pride mixed up. If Placido had truly been the arrogant one, he would´ve most likely not felt threatened by Yusei. Lucciano, I never realy thought of him as arrogant, more sadistic. In his duel against Rua and Ruka, he realy seemed to enjoy making the twins suffer, even more than necessary, exception being after when they pissed him off (= when he began losing control over the duel and the twins managed to counter a few things). The rest of Lucciano´s behaviour appeared more childish than Arrogant, to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 Pride is often mixed up with or slips into arrogance. Placido is arrogant because he's prideful, but his arrogance surfaces the most against Yusei for the reasons I interpreted. When someone feels threatened, they go out of their way to appear or act superior to that one person. Lucciano is outright arrogant based less on hs words than his behaviors. He is definitely sadistic, and Jose did say Lucciano's arrogance was typical of children (thus meaning it is childish arrogance). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrel Girl Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 I'm back, I have not had a computer for a long time so... EDIT: Some facts about the Yu-Gi-Oh movie: Yu-Gi-Oh! 3D: Bonds Beyond Time, known in Japan as Yu-Gi-Oh! The Movie: Super Fusion! Bonds that Transcend Time, also referred to as Yu-Gi-Oh! 10th, is a Japanese 3D animated movie based on the long running Yu-Gi-Oh! series. It celebrates the tenth anniversary of the NAS produced series, Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters, and features the main characters from the franchise's three anime series. It was released in Japanese theaters on January 23, 2010. An English language version containing additional footage is currently being translated by 4Kids Entertainment for theatrical release in the United States in Spring 2011. While riding with Jack Atlas and Crow Hogan, Yusei Fudo's Stardust Dragon is captured by Paradox, a mysterious Turbo Duelist from the future, during a Turbo Duel and turned into a Malefic Monster. With the help of the Crimson Dragon, Yusei chases after Paradox as he enters a time slip, ending up in the past. During this time, Paradox duels against Jaden Yuki (Judai Yuki), who is still able to use the powers of Yubel and The Supreme King. However, by this time Paradox had also captured Cyber End Dragon and Rainbow Dragon and overwhelms Jaden. He is saved thanks to Yusei and the Crimson Dragon. Jaden informs Yusei of Paradox's true intentions. By stealing various monsters from across time and turning them dark, he plans to kill Maximillion Pegasus, the creator of Duel Monsters, preventing the game from being created and causing the events of all three series to never happen. Yusei and Jaden agree to pursue Paradox, which leads them to the past and causes a meeting with the King of Games, Yugi Muto. However, by the time Yusei and Jaden arrive, Paradox had already attacked his time, killing both Pegasus and Solomon Muto (Sugoroku Mutou), Yugi's grandfather, and had also managed to steal Blue-Eyes White Dragon and Red-Eyes Black Dragon. After explaining everything to Yugi, he agrees to join Yusei and Jaden and the three travel back 30 minutes before Paradox's attack, to face him in an ultimate three-on-one duel, to free the trapped monsters, and to save both the world of dueling, and their future before it's too late. The movie was first announced in July 2009. Teasers showcasing the three protagonists, Yugi, Jaden and Yusei and their monsters, were shown at the start of early episodes of the second season of Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D's. It was revealed in the November issue of V-Jump magazine, that the animation would be a 3D film. The main theme for the movie is "MakeMagic" by Atsushi Tamura's band Jealkb. The film was released in Japan on January 23, 2010, with those who saw it receiving a promotional Sin Red Eyes Black Dragon card. During 4Kids's quarterly conference call in March 2010, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Alfred Khan mentioned they are "participating in a brand new Yu-Gi-Oh! 3D movie," implying that 4Kids will be producing an English language version of the movie in North America. A trailer of the English dub of the film was shown at San Diego Comic Con 2010, the official English title of the film - Yu-Gi-Oh! 3D: Bonds Beyond Time, and a Spring 2011 US release date in theaters, and 3D in select theaters was announced. In addition, there was a preview of the film at the Yu-Gi-Oh! World Championship 2010 in Long Beach. The movie will run in select US theatres on February 26-27, 2011 and March 5-6, 2011. It will also receive an encore run in Japan at the same time, containing 10 minutes of additional footage. The film debuted in the top 10 in the Japanese Box Office charts, earning over $1 million US dollars in its first week. All comes from Wikipedia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted December 4, 2010 Report Share Posted December 4, 2010 That's new. 4Kids is actually ADDING stuff to this? Instead of taking stuff out?! FINALLY!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ярополк Пономарёв Posted December 4, 2010 Report Share Posted December 4, 2010 Hallenohhya! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wero-vasto Posted December 4, 2010 Report Share Posted December 4, 2010 Err... I've been inactive for a long time due computer problems :c but would someone plz explain me what have you all guys talk about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shalltear Bloodfallen Posted December 4, 2010 Report Share Posted December 4, 2010 [quote name='Dementuo' timestamp='1291427057' post='4827210'] That's new. 4Kids is actually ADDING stuff to this? Instead of taking stuff out?! FINALLY!!! [/quote] If you are talking about the extra 10 minutes of footage. I don´t believe it was 4Kids that came up with that idea but instead the original creators. @wero-vasto Currently, we are talking about the new Yu-Gi-Oh movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hexcalibrate Posted December 4, 2010 Report Share Posted December 4, 2010 the story plot is pretty simple in my opinion, i don't it yet but heres a guess: some magical evil character is trying to obtain the most powerful monsters in history and gain control of them, to take over/destroy the world and he crosses paths yugi, jaden and yusei who try to foil his evil plot, for most of the duel despite it being 3 on 1 the good guys are losing, then they think of what they're protecting, friendship, love and peace the somehow win things return to normal and no one rembers anything THE END. and if this happens (which i'm so sure it wil if not i will eat the pillow i'm leaning on right now) it will anoy fans across the world due to the fact that this story is so bad even i, a complete nobody with a mental handi-cap who has nothing better to do than voice his unwanted opinion, could come up with that most people will think they shouldn't of even bothered. the only thing that i think is good about this movie is the fact that it is coming out with bunch of new cards, which brings me to my question: the pack that is coming out with the movie is susposed to have 9 cards including "Malefic Blue-Eyes White Dragon", "Malefic Rainbow Dragon" and "Malefic Cyber End Dragon" (and maybe "Malefic World") but anyone know what else is in this pack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovedrive Posted December 4, 2010 Report Share Posted December 4, 2010 I think that plot is actually pretty interesting. Paradox took 2 or 3 most powerful Dragon-Type monsters from DM and GX. He took only Stardust from 5D's. Imagine Malefic Red Demon's Dragon...or Malefic Black Rose Dragon ;D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hexcalibrate Posted December 4, 2010 Report Share Posted December 4, 2010 ok i now just read the plot and on yugioh wikia and i am unsurprised by the results, i was right for the most of it. despite the fact i was right i only have one main gripe with the story. [size="6"]why the smeg did paradox leave blue eyes ultimate & master of dragon soldiers, majestic star & red, shooting star & red nova, the sacred beasts, the egyptian gods, the polar gods or even exodia alone? what was he thinking!!![/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shalltear Bloodfallen Posted December 4, 2010 Report Share Posted December 4, 2010 [quote name='Naturia Melon' timestamp='1291474270' post='4828155'] the story plot is pretty simple in my opinion, i don't it yet but heres a guess: some magical evil character is trying to obtain the most powerful monsters in history and gain control of them, to take over/destroy the world and he crosses paths yugi, jaden and yusei who try to foil his evil plot, for most of the duel despite it being 3 on 1 the good guys are losing, then they think of what they're protecting, friendship, love and peace the somehow win things return to normal and no one rembers anything THE END. [/quote] People in the series won´t remember it since it is not considered canon. If it is not canon, it is treated like it never happened. The Friendship, Love, Peace speech. Konami repeatedly puts in a friendship speah when the characters are winning over impossible odds, in the beginning they even had a character that I swear only existed to repeatedly preach about friendship, *cough*Anzu*Cough* Which is why I´m not surprised over them putting in a speech in the movie. Paradox (a.k.a magical evil character XD) is stealing Stardust, Rainbow dragon and all the others because he needs the most powerfull monsters in the history of Duel Monsters to kill Pegasus. Duel Monsters has lead to a future where mankind is destroyed and Paradox is from that future, one of the few who survived (This has been explained more closely in the most recent episodes). In an attempt to fix the future, Paradox travels back in time and steals powerfull monsters to use against and kill Pegasus. He isn´t interested in taking over or destroying the world, he wants to eliminate Pegasus to eliminate Duel Monsters, thereby [b]saving[/b] the future. EDIT: Majestic Star/Majestic Red needs the power of the Crimson Dragon to be summoned (Often symbolized by Jack/Yusei getting the complete mark on their back and then drawing majestic dragon) Shooting Star/Red Nova were not introduced at the time. Shooting Star is a gift from ZONE (someone Paradox seemingly worked for so I doubt he would dare stealing it) Red Nova can´t be summoned withouth a Burning Soul and wasn´t even created at the time (I think, Jack sealed Scar-Red into a card when he won the duel against the familiar of Scar-Red) The rest were to powerfull to mess with, (my guess) The Egyptian Gods were shown to instantly kill the person if they weren´t worthy of summoning, even using them at all. The Sacred Beasts would risk the future even more if they were released (Remember when the guy summoned all three against Judai) Polar Gods can´t be used in any way if you do not have a Rune Eye. Exodia is in five parts so trying to control regular exodia would be pointless since he would need to individualy control each piece, making 5 verry weak monsters instead of one verry strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrel Girl Posted December 4, 2010 Report Share Posted December 4, 2010 [quote name='Naturia Melon' timestamp='1291475844' post='4828185'] ok i now just read the plot and on yugioh wikia and i am unsurprised by the results, i was right for the most of it. despite the fact i was right i only have one main gripe with the story. [size="6"]why the smeg did paradox leave blue eyes ultimate & master of dragon soldiers, majestic star & red, shooting star & red nova, the sacred beasts, the egyptian gods, the polar gods or even exodia alone? what was he thinking!!![/size] [/quote] He was too tired to take them. But it would have been boring if he took them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted December 4, 2010 Report Share Posted December 4, 2010 He took every monster that DIDN'T have some sort of "Special, character(s)-specific" requirements. List of Malefics (Sins) so far: Malefic Blue-Eyes White Dragon Malefic Red-Eyes Black Dragon Malefic Cyber End Dragon Malefic Rainbow Dragon Malefic Stardust Dragon Malefic Paradox Dragon Malefic Truth Dragon So that makes seven... Possibly Sin World (Malefic World) and Malefic Parellel Gear. There's also the seven Malefic support S/T cards, as well as Junk Gardna and Neos Knight. EDIT: We've all confirmed Blue-Eyes and Stardust's existance, and I myself have confirmed he existance of Red-Eyes and Truth Dragon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrel Girl Posted December 4, 2010 Report Share Posted December 4, 2010 I think there will be no more malefic monsters, cause the the Japanese name is Sin... Dragon And there are 7 deathly sins so I think they are based from that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted December 4, 2010 Report Share Posted December 4, 2010 That's what the Wikia said too. Well, it leaves quite a few quiestions, doesn't it? Which of those cards will be released in the pack, and which are going to be released later, of at all? And are they going to include Paradox Dragon, when they haven't yet made a card for it yet? And what of those seven support cards? Will they be released? And will they release the four cards they've already released once in the pack? If not, then which cards will take their places? Will it be the seven support cards+the two remaining Malefics (excluding Paradox Dragon)? So many questions, so few ways to answer them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrel Girl Posted December 4, 2010 Report Share Posted December 4, 2010 I really dont know, though I hope they all will be released, I have not read yugioh-wikia for a while, so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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