Blake Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 Hey, Lex, who are you duelin' on YN? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wero-vasto Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 @Cherry: Actually... not, maybe Yliaster got 1 of each Machine Emperors and modified them... after it's suppose to be a world destroyed by Synchro Summon OR Machine Emperors are part of Sector Security and when all the madness of the Synchro Monsters appears they were released... eer... forget that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iCherry Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 [quote name='wero-vasto' timestamp='1289506713' post='4777137'] @Cherry: Actually... not, maybe Yliaster got 1 of each Machine Emperors and modified them... after it's suppose to be a world destroyed by Synchro Summon OR Machine Emperors are part of Sector Security and when all the madness of the Synchro Monsters appears they were released... eer... forget that [/quote] @Second Theory: ...Secutor Security has Goyo Guardian and Stygian Sergeants. Why on earth would they make Machine Emperos to stop the Synchro Monsters they use? Stupid Konami. Confusing us like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wero-vasto Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 [quote name='~Cherry~' timestamp='1289506880' post='4777148'] @Second Theory: ...Secutor Security has Goyo Guardian and Stygian Sergeants. Why on earth would they make Machine Emperos to stop the Synchro Monsters they use? Stupid Konami. Confusing us like this. [/quote] Aren't the head masters of Sector Security all from Yliaster? After all, if the 3 Tenors are from Yliaster and are against Synchro Monsters that could mean that they do some secret projects Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shalltear Bloodfallen Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 [quote name='~Cherry~' timestamp='1289505662' post='4777091'] That still fails to explain why the Tenors would use them. Even if they are the "Good" Machine Emperors, why would they use them? Their Evil Replicas/Clones killed them, their loved ones, and the ENTIRE CITY. [/quote] If they stopped synchros while synchros were still in an early stage (possibly while it still had yet to become realy popular and have a lot of people use them like crazy) and whiped out Momentum. The Replicas or whatever they are, will maybe not arrive at all in the future. And what better way is there to stopp synchros then by using the things (likely modified so it won´t go berserk unless the owner tells it to do so) with the ability to steal synchros and it´s power to use against the owner of the synchro monster? However, I have yet to watch 134 even in raw version and I´m possibly missing details they reveal regarding the future thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iCherry Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 [quote name='wero-vasto' timestamp='1289507073' post='4777161'] Aren't the head masters of Sector Security all from Yliaster? After all, if the 3 Tenors are from Yliaster and are against Synchro Monsters that could mean that they do some secret projects [/quote] The three Tenors used to be the Directors, but Yeager took their place. Yliaster has no connections to Secutor Security other than Goodwin and the Tenors. The only project was Ghost, and that wasn't on purpose. [quote name='Lazaruz' timestamp='1289507169' post='4777163'] If they stopped synchros while synchros were still in an early stage (possibly while it still had yet to become realy popular and have a lot of people use them like crazy) and whiped out Momentum. The Replicas or whatever they are, will maybe not arrive at all in the future. And what better way is there to stopp synchros then by using the things (likely modified so it won´t go berserk unless the owner tells it to do so) with the ability to steal synchros and it´s power to use against the owner of the synchro monster? [/quote] Their goal is to change the future that was destroyed by Synchro Summon. Yusei and Jack are perfect targets. If the Arc Cradle's appearance will destroy Neo Domino City, then you could be right here. All of this still doesn't explain why the Tenors would use monsters that killed them and the people close to them though. If anything, they should be using Fusions. THE FUTURE FAVORED BY FUSION SUMMON Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Wolf Sif Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 To comment about Religion-people and Relgions are Ignorant but Christantity is by far the most ignorant throughout history. The Crusades are a prime example of this. Orgainizations fall into this catagory as well such as the KKK. So in short Christantity has killed many things throughout history. As to the topic of the wonderful Emperors. DOESN'T ANYONE THINK ABOUT CHAOS? I Qoute my self with an excerpt from a Poem I wrote in the past [i]"Nither Good nor Evil, Nither True nor False, Chaos envlepos us all, For the time on the clock reads Nine and it's time for me to end this rhyme."[/i] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wero-vasto Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 [quote name='~Cherry~' timestamp='1289508150' post='4777201'] The three Tenors used to be the Directors, but Yeager took their place. Yliaster has no connections to Secutor Security other than Goodwin and the Tenors. The only project was Ghost, and that wasn't on purpose. [/quote] Yeager is the connection of Yliaster and Sector Security .-. after all he knew about the 3 Tenors being from Yliaster and the Directors... who said they can't make other projects? D: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shalltear Bloodfallen Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 [quote name='Decadence' timestamp='1289508166' post='4777202'] To comment about Religion-people and Relgions are Ignorant but Christantity is by far the most ignorant throughout history. The Crusades are a prime example of this. Orgainizations fall into this catagory as well such as the KKK. So in short Christantity has killed many things throughout history. As to the topic of the wonderful Emperors. DOESN'T ANYONE THINK ABOUT CHAOS? I Qoute my self with an excerpt from a Poem I wrote in the past [i]"Nither Good nor Evil, Nither True nor False, Chaos envlepos us all, For the time on the clock reads Nine and it's time for me to end this rhyme."[/i] [/quote] I don´t think Chaos is an option to Konami. It´s either, the world will survive and everyone will live happily. Or Complete and utter destruction! [quote name='wero-vasto' timestamp='1289508603' post='4777227'] Yeager is the connection of Yliaster and Sector Security .-. after all he knew about the 3 Tenors being from Yliaster and the Directors... who said they can't make other projects? D: [/quote] They can. I however saw it the way that the Infinity Trio only tried to use Sector Security to gain control of Neo Domino City (and assisting in securing the ME tablets once they would arrive). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 [quote name='Decadence' timestamp='1289508166' post='4777202'] To comment about Religion-people and Relgions are Ignorant but Christantity is by far the most ignorant throughout history. The Crusades are a prime example of this. Orgainizations fall into this catagory as well such as the KKK. So in short Christantity has killed many things throughout history. As to the topic of the wonderful Emperors. DOESN'T ANYONE THINK ABOUT CHAOS? I Qoute my self with an excerpt from a Poem I wrote in the past [i]"Nither Good nor Evil, Nither True nor False, Chaos envlepos us all, For the time on the clock reads Nine and it's time for me to end this rhyme."[/i] [/quote] Muhammed did not show ignorance when he waged wars on tribes around him. Not at all. He killed nothing at all. Now, I'm not condoning the Crusades. I am ashamed by them, and I refuse to associate myself with that. Heck, I'm not even Catholic, so I cut myself from it, even further. So shut your trap. You don't like religion? Fine. But to call me, and Cherry-Senpai, and many others ignorant for it? YOU show ignorance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Wolf Sif Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 Konami Is a bunch of F***ing Pricks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iCherry Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 [quote name='wero-vasto' timestamp='1289508603' post='4777227'] Yeager is the connection of Yliaster and Sector Security .-. after all he knew about the 3 Tenors being from Yliaster and the Directors... who said they can't make other projects? D: [/quote] Yeager is not in Yliaster, nor is he a part of it. He was just told that his new bosses are from Yliaster. The Tenors used Secutor Security for the Riding Roids and that's about it. They're too stupid to do anything on their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Wolf Sif Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 [quote name='Fading Black' timestamp='1289508925' post='4777246'] Muhammed did not show ignorance when he waged wars on tribes around him. Not at all. He killed nothing at all. Now, I'm not condoning the Crusades. I am ashamed by them, and I refuse to associate myself with that. Heck, I'm not even Catholic, so I cut myself from it, even further. So shut your trap. You don't like religion? Fine. But to call me, and Cherry-Senpai, and many others ignorant for it? YOU show ignorance. [/quote] Ok obviously you blanty missunderstod what I had said so I'll refreas it for you. I am Religious (to an extent) Everyone in this world is Ignorant I'm no exception oh and also by your Reply you are a very ARRAGANT person as well as Ignorant (and pls don't post further to this conversation for I really don't care for it.) And I said Throughout History that Christainitys follower have been Ignorant that doesn't mean they all were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iCherry Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 [quote name='Decadence' timestamp='1289509681' post='4777295'] oh and also by your Reply you are a very ARRAGANT person as well as Ignorant [/quote] Arrogance: overbearing pride evidenced by a superior manner toward inferiors Ignorance: the lack of knowledge or education Explain please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 [quote name='Decadence' timestamp='1289509681' post='4777295'] Ok obviously you blanty missunderstod what I had said so I'll refreas it for you. I am Religious (to an extent) Everyone in this world is Ignorant I'm no exception oh and also by your Reply you are a very ARRAGANT person as well as Ignorant (and pls don't post further to this conversation for I really don't care for it.) And I said Throughout History that Christainitys follower have been Ignorant that doesn't mean they all were. [/quote] ... Alright, I did misunderstand. Sorry, most people tend to attack religion, so I'm on edge. Me? Arrogant? I really am not. I will defend my faith to the end, but I will not do that for anything else. Ask anyone on here that knows me. I am not ignorant, what I said about Muhammed is true. Sorry. Truce? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Wolf Sif Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 [quote name='Fading Black' timestamp='1289509968' post='4777303'] ... Alright, I did misunderstand. Sorry, most people tend to attack religion, so I'm on edge. Me? Arrogant? I really am not. I will defend my faith to the end, but I will not do that for anything else. Ask anyone on here that knows me. I am not ignorant, what I said about Muhammed is true. Sorry. Truce? [/quote] Truce [for now]....just kidding Truce And Cherry you have to ruin my fun don't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iCherry Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 [quote name='Decadence' timestamp='1289510338' post='4777321'] And Cherry you have to ruin my fun don't you? [/quote] Not really. You just called my friend arrogant and ignorant, I was somewhat infuriated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Wolf Sif Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 [quote name='~Cherry~' timestamp='1289510520' post='4777328'] Not really. You just called my friend arrogant and ignorant, I was somewhat infuriated. [/quote] Oh I really am sorry about that. [not sarcasam] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iCherry Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 [quote name='Decadence' timestamp='1289510715' post='4777342'] Oh I really am sorry about that. [not sarcasam] [/quote] It's alright. It was just a misunderstanding away. No harm done on either end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 [quote name='~Cherry~' timestamp='1289508150' post='4777201'] Their goal is to change the future that was destroyed by Synchro Summon. Yusei and Jack are perfect targets. If the Arc Cradle's appearance will destroy Neo Domino City, then you could be right here. All of this still doesn't explain why the Tenors would use monsters that killed them and the people close to them though. If anything, they should be using Fusions. THE FUTURE FAVORED BY FUSION SUMMON [/quote] The only explanation I have so far is that it was GRANNEL that killed Lucciano's parents and Placido's friend/whatever. Skiel and Wisel, while involved in the city's devastation, didn't leave the emotional trauma. They also should be dead, so that fits my theory ZONE brought them back as part cyborgs, offering them the chance to use the Machine Emperors to prevent the fate. From the looks of it, Neo Domino City is intended to be the only casualty of their operations. Neo Domino created Momentum. Momentum is somehow responsible for the fate involving Synchro monsters and the devastation. The Momentum technology spread out from Neo Domino in the future, to other cities, for the same purposes it did in Neo Domino. Because Momentum is so powerful and capable of manipulating the placement of humans and their history, Yliaster first attempted Zero Reverse. It failed, and did not remove the technology and its power permanently. People involved in the project still survived, and continued the work on it until the present day. The technology became more widespread, and Synchro monsters, possibly gaining popularity (It does seem that the Signer Dragons were the first ever Synchros), relied on Momentum or gave it more energy, considering Momentum is a power source seemingly fueled by Dueling. The 3 Emperors have the plan to have Neo Domino completely wiped out of existence and rebuilt (Lucciano in 131 said when Arc Cradle descends, the city will be destroyed and rebuilt). Jose in 110 said they "came to this time" to do their plan. By acting before the technology of Momentum is widespread, it ensures only that City will need to be removed from history, a far simpler plan than letting the entire world be destroyed. On that notion, the Machine Emperor army may have been Yliaster/their God's last resort. "Screw this, just remove it now, show the world why this whole thing was a BAD step". Placido, Lucciano, and Jose know the end result. They will be motivated to stop that fate. It is the unavoidable future they seek to prevent. This is mostly just theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrel Girl Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 Why are you talking about Religion? That is just stupid imo About the talk about ME: I think that the tenors was trying to prevent that the ME's was going to kill everyone like in the episode Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 Because I thought he was attacking it >_> That is my Rage Trigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iCherry Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1289511264' post='4777369'] The only explanation I have so far is that it was GRANNEL that killed Lucciano's parents and Placido's friend/whatever. Skiel and Wisel, while involved in the city's devastation, didn't leave the emotional trauma. They also should be dead, so that fits my theory ZONE brought them back as part cyborgs, offering them the chance to use the Machine Emperors to prevent the fate. From the looks of it, Neo Domino City is intended to be the only casualty of their operations. Neo Domino created Momentum. Momentum is somehow responsible for the fate involving Synchro monsters and the devastation. The Momentum technology spread out from Neo Domino in the future, to other cities, for the same purposes it did in Neo Domino. Because Momentum is so powerful and capable of manipulating the placement of humans and their history, Yliaster first attempted Zero Reverse. It failed, and did not remove the technology and its power permanently. People involved in the project still survived, and continued the work on it until the present day. The technology became more widespread, and Synchro monsters, possibly gaining popularity (It does seem that the Signer Dragons were the first ever Synchros), relied on Momentum or gave it more energy, considering Momentum is a power source seemingly fueled by Dueling. The 3 Emperors have the plan to have Neo Domino completely wiped out of existence and rebuilt (Lucciano in 131 said when Arc Cradle descends, the city will be destroyed and rebuilt). Jose in 110 said they "came to this time" to do their plan. By acting before the technology of Momentum is widespread, it ensures only that City will need to be removed from history, a far simpler plan than letting the entire world be destroyed. On that notion, the Machine Emperor army may have been Yliaster/their God's last resort. "Screw this, just remove it now, show the world why this whole thing was a BAD step". Placido, Lucciano, and Jose know the end result. They will be motivated to stop that fate. It is the unavoidable future they seek to prevent. This is mostly just theory. [/quote] Even if it was Grannel, why would they use something associated with it? Why would Placido of all people come up with a plan for Grannel's Summoning and ATK Skyrocketing? ZONE probably brought them back. We all can agree on that. I'm not sure if I heard this right, but Jose said something about "Speed" when explaining the future to Team 5D's. I believe that Synchro Monsters fueled Momentum at an insane speed, especially since the entire city had all began to spam Synchro Monsters. Hell, you can even see a cluttered highway with everyone shouting "SYNCHRO SHOKAN". Your theory seems the most plausible at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrel Girl Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 Well, of course, cause he is awesome right, though there are something in that theory that will doesn't work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iCherry Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 [quote name='^_^AxManBoy^_^' timestamp='1289512425' post='4777419'] Well, of course, cause he is awesome right, [b]though there are something in that theory that will doesn't work[/b] [/quote] Point out the inconsistency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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