evilfusion Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 [quote name='~Overdrive~' timestamp='1299521690' post='5058165'] O_o Did Judai/Jaden dropped his cards when he saw that they are blank, in season 2 GX, before he gained Neos? [/quote] That was one hell of a weird GX moment. First, Dreadmaster b****-slaps Thunder Giant. Jaden LP: 0. All of a sudden, his cards FLY OUT of his disk and scatter all over, turning blank in the process. But that was post-defeat. And sure, duelists have dropped their cards. Strings dropped his cards when he was enacting the Slifer Infinite Loop, but that's because his hand was too big. Most players don't drop their cards DURING a duel. Never has there been a case to my knowledge that a duelist nearly lost a card while dueling, with the exception of Joey vs Odion in Battle City, when a wind gust tears Joey's cards from his hand on the blimp, but he catches them all, including one in his mouth. Yusei actually had to chase down his dropped card. The next closest example is Yubel stealing Super Polymerization "during" the Jaden vs possessed Jesse duel. As in, she used a card to add it to her hand, and NEVER GAVE IT BACK. To the point of using it in her deck in the next duel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovedrive Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 So conclusion? Yusei accidentally dropped his card and he "chased" it. And that event was the 1st one of it's kind in YGO history? Need to go offline for half of hour/hour. kbai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloister Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 So it's the third time then, DURING a duel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 Players are remarkably good at not losing their cards during duels. 1) Joey nearly has his cards blown away. He saved them 2) Marik seems to have gotten his cards knocked out of his hand when Obelisk attacks him directly. This does not impact the duel. 3) Yubel somehow steals Super Polymerization with a card effect and keeps it. However, this is the first time a player has ACTUALLY lost a card, and needed to go out of his way to retrieve it, barring Joey's case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloister Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 Yeah, no-one has never lost a card though... Too bad. I'd lose them all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wero-vasto Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 [quote name='~Overdrive~' timestamp='1299517687' post='5058025'] Of course, Aporia is more badass then Yusei so he can deal with real damage =D. [/quote] Thought Ryo Marufuji can deal with more damage than Aporia! D: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 Elaborate on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wero-vasto Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 If I'm right, Ryo AKA Kaizer, during his duels he never felt damage (thought only during first season) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 True, he took Thunder Giant's attack without flinching in episode 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shalltear Bloodfallen Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 This might just be me because I never enjoyed GX that much and therefore didn´t pay much attention to the episodes, but I never understood how they were supposed to "feel" the damage, that is excluding Shadow Games and Underground Dueling equipment. As far as I remember, whenever the damage during a duel has been made reality or atleast so it directly acctually damages the player in some way, somekind of mysterious power or other piece of equipment has had to bee behind it. In the original, it was the Millenium Items, creating the Shadow Games. GX had the Shadow Charms (Dark Items), and through them, the Shadow Games once more. Plus the Underground Duels. 5D´s has had several. Psychic powers, The power of a Dark Signer and The powers of Yliaster, to name a few. These are the only ways (that I remember) that the damage truly could damage the player. The rest allways seem kind of pretended or just Konami trying to add some drama into the duel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 Well, until season 3 and the alternate dimension, they weren't actually being hurt by it outside of Shadow Games, they just reacted to it for the most part (although Jaden getting hit by Armed Dragon level 5/7 was a bit much) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloister Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 Psychic Powers. Come on Konami, be realistic here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shalltear Bloodfallen Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 [quote name='Tom.' timestamp='1299531396' post='5058577'] Psychic Powers. Come on Konami, be realistic here. [/quote] Are you honestly asking for realism in a world were a childrens card-game decides the fate of the world? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloister Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 Nope, I was sarcastic. Thought it was kinda obvious... And btw, who is Kaiser? That shadow duelist in GX? Don't remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shalltear Bloodfallen Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 [quote name='Tom.' timestamp='1299532369' post='5058623'] And btw, who is Kaiser? That shadow duelist in GX? Don't remember. [/quote] Kaiser, or Hell Kaiser Ryo to be precise is what Ryo (Zane in the English dubb) called himself while he basicaly went evil and completely stopped respecting his opponents in favour of being able to completely focus on winning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 He was known as "Kaiser" during his Duel Academy days. When he went dark, he became known as "Hell Kaiser". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloister Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 Ahh I see. Yeah, he didn't care about damage. Kinda lost respect for him then. But he was still as badass as ever. Lol at "Hell Kaiser". Sounds so stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 Well, it probably worked better in the original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrel Girl Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 I have been away from Yugioh for a while now. It is not fun to be off from this site that long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shalltear Bloodfallen Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1299533051' post='5058656'] He was known as "Kaiser" during his Duel Academy days.[/quote] I must have completely forgotten that detail since I only remembered him calling himself "Hell Kaiser" after he went dark. Not that he had a nick-name before that. @Tom. I both gained and lost respect for him during that time since his badassnes almost shot through the roof at a couple of times and he clearly was someone you absolutely didn´t want to mess with at all if you knew what was good for you. In terms of the nick-name. It is pretty stupid in it´s purest for since, for starters, it´s a mix of two completely different languages (the Hell Kaiser one). Which only makes it seem awkward. When you translate things however, I acctually think it is pretty good. Kaiser is the german word for emperor, something that realy fits his Duel Academy days since he was the strongest duelist in the entire acdemy, and chalenging him was regarded as basicly a form of suicide. He goes dark, very dark might I add, and just adds Hell to his nick-name. Hell Kaiser means Hell emperor, if directly translated. Hell Kaiser is therfore very easy (atleast for me) to translate into things like Devil. A person that commands the very forces of Hell itself. @Star Wars Fan #1 Nice to see that you have returned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 I liked him a lot around that point, although the whole "shock collar duel with your brother" thing was just wrong. Awesome, but wrong. What I hate is that in Season 3, he more or less returned to his old personality, just a bit rougher, with no explanation for it. And then they're like "oh, his heart's weak because of all the underground duels" and then he duels Yubel and loses in spectacular fashion and dies by the rules of that world and his heart stopping. In Season 4, he's not dead, just weak, and now it's discovered that his Cyberdarks are the cause of his heart failure. Yeah...and people say playing card games is not remotely bad for your health. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrel Girl Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 Well, it's good to be back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shalltear Bloodfallen Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1299538610' post='5058879'] I liked him a lot around that point, although the whole "shock collar duel with your brother" thing was just wrong. Awesome, but wrong. What I hate is that in Season 3, he more or less returned to his old personality, just a bit rougher, with no explanation for it. And then they're like "oh, his heart's weak because of all the underground duels" and then he duels Yubel and loses in spectacular fashion and dies by the rules of that world and his heart stopping. In Season 4, he's not dead, just weak, and now it's discovered that his Cyberdarks are the cause of his heart failure. Yeah...and people say playing card games is not remotely bad for your health. [/quote] Agreed. I actually thought it was a rather good build up for his ultimate send-off, except the part about him returning to his old personality. when you think about it, The underground duels, atleast as they were introduced to us viewers, all involved shock collars in some form and if his body had to repeatedly suffer electric shocks of different strenght, it would most likely mess up someones heart. Maybe not so you would die (unless the shocks have all been realy powerfull) but atleast to leave a few marks. (I´m far from eductaded in this kind of area and this is mostly based on pure logic) I never saw season 4 (mainly because I watched the dubb most of it and abandoned shipp as soon as I heard the news about 5D´s) but if it´s true that they brought him back, that if anything is a huge F*** YOU to the viewer since the whole point in Ryo´s death was that he wanted to go down fighting instead of wasting away (if i remember correctly). Though I do see the point that the Cyberdarks would be the real cause since they hinted that the Cyberdark deck was unique and very dangerous (The episode when Ryo goes to retrieve it and duels the Principal), which would also kind of justify the point that they wouldn´t think the cardgame in general is to dangerous to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 I've been gone for more than a few hours. What did I miss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 Yeah, he comes back in Season 4, and is challenged by the champion of a "Psycho-Style" (vs his Cyber-Style) dojo. He has a heart attack and the duel is put on hold. His brother decides to duel in his place and realizes that using his deck isn't working for him, so Jaden advises making the deck truly his. So he combines his Vehicroid Deck with his bro's Cyberdark/Cyber Dragon deck and ultimately wins, "inheriting" the deck or something. Crush Card is broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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