evilfusion Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 Yeah, the examples I saw had that issue. They'd theoretically be easier to Summon than Synchros, but it's just not the same. 2 level 3 can make a Rank 3 Exceed, but if one's a Tuner, you can bring out the likes of Brionac or Goyo or Gaia Knight, in the event Goyo's banned. I saw Revise Dragon as a Rank 3, and by sending a Material to the grave, it gets 500 ATK. If it doesn't have any Materials, it can't attack directly. Wow...2500 basically, 3000 max, but in that case, it can't attack directly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrel Girl Posted February 19, 2011 Report Share Posted February 19, 2011 [center]Sub 148 Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-d1rixflbZA Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBQdz3bUU2Y&feature=related [/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 19, 2011 Report Share Posted February 19, 2011 When unsubbed, I assumed one of the Materials used for Blackfeather negated its effect or something, but apparently it stops it from attacking the turn summoned. And the other used for Red Demon's was to negate the effect. So why did Yusei take 1000 from Razion if Blackfeather's effect wasn't negated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrel Girl Posted February 19, 2011 Report Share Posted February 19, 2011 I dont know that. Either, he forgot BF effect or he just didn't know that BF can negate damage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 19, 2011 Report Share Posted February 19, 2011 *looks at the combo he used to beat Aporia* I'm not buying that. The only explanation I have is if Razion's effect can't be negated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinolovania Posted February 19, 2011 Report Share Posted February 19, 2011 He doesn't say that...but remember, ZONE is Yusei too. Therefore, he can use main character hax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 19, 2011 Report Share Posted February 19, 2011 We call that "main antagonist hax" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 19, 2011 Report Share Posted February 19, 2011 I still think Zone is not Yusei. It just... doesn't feel right @_@ Also, if any of you watch Bleach, the epitome of Main Protagonist/Antagonist haz just happened, so, yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrel Girl Posted February 19, 2011 Report Share Posted February 19, 2011 Or, the effect work on all Synchro monsters. But for now, it's "main antagonist hax" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 19, 2011 Report Share Posted February 19, 2011 I thought of that, but Black Rose Dragon can activate its effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrel Girl Posted February 19, 2011 Report Share Posted February 19, 2011 Yeah, but BRD was not on the field when that effect was activated. So that may be the cause BRD was not affected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wero-vasto Posted February 20, 2011 Report Share Posted February 20, 2011 TMD Effect's maybe CANNOT be negated, that's why BRD could activate it's effect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted February 20, 2011 Report Share Posted February 20, 2011 I'm assuming it negates effects until the Standby Phase, since Raiton's effect activates during the Draw Phase. Makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 20, 2011 Report Share Posted February 20, 2011 Well, the Synchro Material was used to negate Red Demon's effect, which was why I was puzzled. Blackfeather shouldn't have anything hindering it, unless Razion's damage cannot be negated. Maybe it was just a writer mistake, but I thought the whole point of Yusei choosing Blackfeather was to counter ZONE's burn strategy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zextra Posted February 20, 2011 Report Share Posted February 20, 2011 Instinctively, it should've only lasted until the End Phase.... However, seeing as how it didn't, it might be until Yusei's next turn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrel Girl Posted February 20, 2011 Report Share Posted February 20, 2011 OR start of battle phase. But who knows. The writers do their own effects on cards so they can do effects as they want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovedrive Posted February 20, 2011 Report Share Posted February 20, 2011 [u][b]152[/b][/u] The battle with Z-one has finally ended, and peace returns to New Domino City. Though Yusei and his friends each contributed to reviving the city, Jack, Crow, Akiza, Leo and Luna are all worried about their futures. Then after a long time, the members of Team 5D's gather at a dinner party. [u][b]153[/b][/u] Yusei VS Jack! To decide their own futures, Yusei and Jack pull out all the stops to fight each other. Jack summons his ace monster, "Red Nova Dragon", while Yusei fights back with "Shooting Star Dragon". [u][b]154 (Apparently, the final episode)[/b][/u] The final battle between Yusei and Jack. Having settled his Duel against Jack, Yusei is determined to move ahead on the road before him. Likewise, Jack, Crow, Akiza, Leo, and Luna, who all had to see this fight for themselves, decide to follow the roads before them. FinalbattleFTW! I hope these last episodes will not be boring. After these.... YUGIOH ZEEEEEEEEEEEEEXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLL! *cries* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 20, 2011 Report Share Posted February 20, 2011 Yusei vs. Jack is the ending? I must say, that is the best series ending yet. xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinolovania Posted February 20, 2011 Report Share Posted February 20, 2011 Yusei vs. Jack? Sweet! But of course, Yusei will win, as he has nexus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wero-vasto Posted February 20, 2011 Report Share Posted February 20, 2011 [i]This card cannot be Special Summoned from the Deck. If you control no monsters, you can Normal Summon this card without Tributing. This card cannot be destroyed by battle or by card effects. You take no Battle Damage from battles involving this face-up Attack Position card. At the end of the Battle Phase in which this card battled, return all other monsters on the field to the hand, and inflict 300 damage to your opponent for each monster returned. During your Standby Phase, return this face-up card to the Deck.[/i] Yeah.... they totally ruined Metaion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinolovania Posted February 20, 2011 Report Share Posted February 20, 2011 [quote name='wero-vasto' timestamp='1298243660' post='5021689'] [i]This card cannot be Special Summoned from the Deck. If you control no monsters, you can Normal Summon this card without Tributing. This card cannot be destroyed by battle or by card effects. You take no Battle Damage from battles involving this face-up Attack Position card. At the end of the Battle Phase in which this card battled, return all other monsters on the field to the hand, and inflict 300 damage to your opponent for each monster returned. During your Standby Phase, return this face-up card to the Deck.[/i] Yeah.... they totally ruined Metaion [/quote] Not really...in fact, the 2nd sentence makes him way better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wero-vasto Posted February 20, 2011 Report Share Posted February 20, 2011 [quote name='Kikoutei Penguin Infinity' timestamp='1298243824' post='5021697'] Not really...in fact, the 2nd sentence makes him way better. [/quote] Maybeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.... but I'm not the kind of duelist that SS from the hand D: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 20, 2011 Report Share Posted February 20, 2011 IRL Metaion is better. Note: He bounces himself, so you don't have to return him to the deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 It says all [u][i][b]other[/b][/i][/u] monsters return to the hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 I swear, the Wikia, when I checked, said All >_> OK, he's still better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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