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[quote name='wero-vasto' timestamp='1295293954' post='4941204']
Some Tag Matches with Rua? Thought, it would be better to see here dueling alone now, I wan't more action from AFD
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She only had 1 duel alone, in the Fortune Cup. But as Yugioh 5D's has only a few episodes left i don't think Ruka will duel anymore.
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[quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1295292490' post='4941160']
Dub:

Lotten flees, Kiryu chases and tackles him. It leads to this exchange, somewhat paraphrased:

Kiryu: Going somewhere?
Lotten: Let me guess, you want to finish the duel?
Kiryu: Yes, but despite that, I'm not going to.
Lotten (and me): What?
Kiryu: I learned something at the town. You dont have the heart of a duelist; you're just a bully. So instead of going down on the duel field, you're going down right here. As a coward.

(Fade to town getting repaired and Lotten being arrested)

...got to admit, that was kind of epic in what it implied.
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Wut?

...

F*CK!

I hate 4Kids. They cut the best part of the duel...
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I was disappointed they cut out possibly the second most epic moment in the Crashtown Arc (Infernity Zero + Infernity Death Gunman was one), but in truth, I think it made sense and it was actually a pretty decent compromise. Instead of having a relatively pointless "last turn", they implied that the conclusion was physical, rather than just editted out sloppily.

Ruka dueled what, 3 1/2 times in the series?

1- During Fortune Cup, vs that hypnotist weirdo.
.5- Demak, but Rua had literally done everything up to that point. They only won though because Demak thought it'd be fun to show Ancient Fairy Dragon to Ruka.
2- Vs Lucciano
3- Vs Aporia

The problem is she was stated to have a condition that dueling exhausted her or something.
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[quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1295292490' post='4941160']
Huh, I just watched the last episodes of the Crashtown Arc dub, and they actually did okay with some of the edits. Painful, yes, but it could have been worse. Although all references to having a gun to someone's head is edited or just hidden from view.

But the most startling edit to me was that they CHANGED the ending to Lotten vs Yusei/Kiryu. How?

Original:

Lotten flees the city, Kiryu chases and tackles him, demanding to finish the duel, promising that if Lotten wins, he can go free. Lotten feels it's pointless, but agrees, remembering Bullet and Cartridge is on the top of Kiryu's deck and he knows Infernity Death Gunman is in the Graveyard. Without Stardust, Long Barrel can destroy Death Dragon and win.

The duel resumes and he does exactly that. Kiryu activates Infernity Climber's effect and Death Gunman's. Lotten takes the gamble and learns Climber hops to the top of the deck, and he is defeated. It is epic.

Dub:

Lotten flees, Kiryu chases and tackles him. It leads to this exchange, somewhat paraphrased:

Kiryu: Going somewhere?
Lotten: Let me guess, you want to finish the duel?
Kiryu: Yes, but despite that, I'm not going to.
Lotten (and me): What?
Kiryu: I learned something at the town. You dont have the heart of a duelist; you're just a bully. So instead of going down on the duel field, you're going down right here. As a coward.

(Fade to town getting repaired and Lotten being arrested)

...got to admit, that was kind of epic in what it implied.
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Damn 4Kids. They ruined it.
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^I agree with you^
They should have kept the ending but just do it like they did earlier with Infernity Gunman (remove him pointing gun + move on to Kiryu saying "I activate the effects of him and Climber in my Graveyard). But I suppose it was too much work to do.

(I apologize for my inactivity here)
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Dont get me wrong, they did butcher those episodes. But I expected far worse than what I got.

Also, at the beginning of episode 91, when Barbara lassos that one guy with the whip and is choking him, uh...what the hell was with the edit there? The guy is clearly being strangled, based on his mannerisms and gestures, but the whip around his neck is invisible. Wow...just because we can't see it doesn't mean we dont know what's going on. It's like preserving the scene, but without a tiny but crucial visual aspect.

And when one of the Crashtown guys points a gun at Barbara, he is "pointing threateningly". The second guy is still holding a gun, just not pointing it at Barbara. Um...

The whole last scene with Kiryu vs Lotten revolved around Death Gunman. Editing everything, including the flashback of Death Gunman the first time, the current time, and establishing the tension of the moment without showing the gun...damn, that'd be hard. We lose the epic scene, but at the same time, I kind of liked the idea of them not settling it with a duel, since that leaves the implication that Kiryu fought him physically.

However, that would have worked MUCH better if they hadn't changed Lotten's "I'm a realist" line (when accused of not acting like a duelist) to "I'm a lot of things". Had he said "realist", then Kiryu being a "realist" right back at the end would have been hilarious.
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I can only assume because anime has a cartoony feel, so such shows are aimed towards younger audiences (inb4TheSimpsons/SouthPark/FamilyGuy). The older audience shows tend to be comedies with crude or offensive humor, and there just aren't enough good shows directed towards the middle ground, being teenagers. And you have to admit, Yugioh, being a show where high-stakes situations are settled with card games is a bit hard to take seriously. But the dub makes it impossible to take seriously because they changed the demographic and censor all the things that make it appeal to teens.

And ignorance is bliss. I watched the first two series with dub only and I thought the show was great, usually. 5Ds is the first one I watched the subs for, and it cements in my mind that the dub simply cannot compare to it, due to censoring and dialogue, and as of late, name changes. I hate the inconsistency I have of referring to Yugioh and GX with dub information, and 5Ds with sub. For example, my obsession with the proper names for most 5Ds characters. (Dont you dare call Placido, Lucciano, or Jose by those horrible dub names, or Kiryu for that matter)
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My main issue with the dub names of the Infinity Trio is not that they are bad.
It´s that they are completely unrelated to eachother.

In the japanese version, The names being reference to the three tenors might have been a subtle hint that each member of The Infinity trio was (more or less) conected to eachother (=being able to fuse into Aporia), when I think about it.

In the english version, I swear to god, 4Kids must have picked the first three names that they came up with and that had the first letter as the original name
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[quote name='Lazaruz' timestamp='1295385579' post='4943296']
In the english version, I swear to god, 4Kids must have picked the first three names that they came up with and that had the first letter as the original name
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I lol'd at this. But, it's maybe true =D.

Today is Wednesday = New episode.

Nothing on YouTube, yet.
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My biggest gripe about the dub names for the Infinity Trio is that Lucciano and Placido have a nice ring to it, and Jose was cool in its simplicity. Jose's dub name is the one I hate the least (it's still two syllables, with a J). I'm not fond of "Primo" for Placido, but I dont actively hate it. I can't stand Lucciano's dub name, and coupled with the voice actor, dub Lucciano is just too painful to listen to. Seriously, I refused to finish watching dub 78 despite it being one of my favorite episodes, because Lucciano's dub voice, the normal pains of the dub, and Ruka/Rua's absolutely unbearable new voices were just too much.

And yes, 144 is on Youtube, obviously not subbed yet.
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