Nexev Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 More importantly, at least give a good reason as to why our existence is nessecery? At least make a eviler antagonist than the protagonists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion X. Denver Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 9/11 was also one event.And one hell of an event at it...So Bin Laden is the good guy?Hell no!And the mask thing is bs.Nuh uh, FTK needs to keep their identities a secret, duh. Unless you meant them not having masks during the CP thing. They made a goof. Or I did. Whatever works.No one cares if no one knows we did it, it's still motherfuckin terroism.You know, they made sure not to kill anyone during the festival thing, only set fire to the park and festival. I believe I mentioned no one was hurt when the fire started and the park was evacuated. So yes, the burning was terrorism, but not on the level of 9/11, no mass murder was done there. And like I said, Donovyn said the FTK was supposed to play the role of the hero and villain, if he found a purpose for enacting terrorism, he'll run with it. You guys aren't villains, more like anti-heroes. If it doesn't seem that way, then I just need to write better, which I understand and will try to do, this is my first fic. Even in the begining, it was El who attacked Hito who had his weapon STOLEN by us.Ah but Nev, Hito is one of the Inactive, the bad guys. Don't you know no one cares about anything bad happening to the bad guy (fanboys and girls excluded from example)? And, who knows what El will do if Hito ever returns to his normal self? He could return the sword, keep it, something else, but that won't be for a while. We are the bad guys.Part of the time. DMG fixed Chris' and El's friendship, didn't he?There hasn't been a character introduced who has less honor, more cruelty, and generally more villanous than us.?Dude.You guys killed in defense, they were going to rip you limb from limb and cause chaos by warring with the Orgy 13.Don't be so harsh on yourselves >.>Fusion and Roxas however were on OUR side. We TURNED on them.Funny how you use "we" there.Everyone in the 'good guys' are complete monsters.Chris isn't.DL isn't (aside from Yuki)El, eh I wouldn't say complete, I would hope you guys got a sense of his human side to him.The rest, I don't think so, but the list is too long for me to address, but I don't think they're heartless monsters.Stop trying to sugar coat it with your bs.Sorry, El and DL say I have this "Fuse Mode" where I try to argue against everyone with seemingly pointless banter thinking I'm right. I wouldn't say I'm doing that here, I'm just trying to explain how I'm seeing the issues you're concerned with.Cause it's still wrong, and it's still what we are doing.Sometimes you guys do the right, sometimes you do the wrong.There is no way to sympathize with us.Not yet maybe.Hell, even Tim proved that Life was actually allied with Donovyn, meaning even Club Pikachu were good guys in this case.Did he now?How would you know? I don't believe he finished expressing his thought before Creator shot him, who did so because Tim was going to kill them and had already slaughtered innocent doctors, he would have earned the death penalty anyway.But no, Club Pikachu fought to abide by their alliance and because Pikachu said so. I never said anything about Pikachu or the club as a whole knowing what Tim was going to say, thought granted I never said they didn't know either. But Pikachu was thinking of warring with the Orgy, he and his followers are indeed bad guys. Or were. No.... just.... no......You get to join the FTK for only being in the club at the very last remake? And yet DL and I aren't in Akatsuki? That, my friend, is fail. Did I ever say Chris was joining the FTK?No I didn't.Is the fanfic close to being over so no more development can be made? No.So quiet you.@Fusion - Which brings me to the thing: If you kill in self-defence, you actually don't go to jail. For srs? Well, you could say Orgy 13 is strict, things in Yugo are run a little differently (only a little)And against CP, it WAS self-defense. Of course, I could be wrong.No, you're right. It was self-defense, meaning no terrorism (in fighting CP I mean).But yeah, try making the FTK....less like terrorist a******s.Keep reading. And Creator, using a gun would not have helped in your situation, so you decided to try Operation Shish-Kebab to get out of it.Chapter 13, the idea for it is mulling around my head, I'll get typing soon I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enma Kozato Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 Due to surgery, I obviously will be out of the fic for a week.But I can see how that can cause character developement, I get my ass blown off (I might not be kidding)plus the rest of my rear torso, therefore I never use oil again and find a new way to blow sh!t up. and everyone, stop yer whining. It's not like being evil isn't fun...so even if we do becomeevil its a win winwin1: we help people be better peoplewin2:we get to kill stuff It seems fusion is kinda making us like the antagonist in the Saw series, but we do good things instead of trap people in abandned hospitals with torture crap attached to their head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexev Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 None of the inactive have done anything evil though so the only bad guys are us. They are only evil by title, not by action. We do evil things however, sure it hasn't been murder yet but we still have no qualms at it as Donovyn showed and we still caused millions of dollars worth in property damage. Tim did what he thought was right, CP was honoring a promise and alliance. They are far more noble than us. Plus as the Co leader of Organization XIII you sortof just shot my boss and friend. Even if you HAD a reason to be the good guys, which honestly you don't, I still am supposed to arrest you guys because that is my f***ing job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sploda Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 Did I ever say Chris was joining the FTK?No I didn't.Is the fanfic close to being over so no more development can be made? No.So quiet you. And Creator, using a gun would not have helped in your situation, so you decided to try Operation Shish-Kebab to get out of it.Chapter 13, the idea for it is mulling around my head, I'll get typing soon I think. Ever hear of a harpoon gun? Due to surgery, I obviously will be out of the fic for a week.But I can see how that can cause character developement, I get my ass blown off (I might not be kidding)plus the rest of my rear torso, therefore I never use oil again and find a new way to blow sh!t up. and everyone, stop yer whining. It's not like being evil isn't fun...so even if we do becomeevil its a win winwin1: we help people be better peoplewin2:we get to kill stuff It seems fusion is kinda making us like the antagonist in the Saw series, but we do good things instead of trap people in abandned hospitals with torture crap attached to their head. Next time use Napalm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enma Kozato Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 yeah that blows stuff up. now I ust need to find a way to burn things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sploda Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 yeah that blows stuff up. now I ust need to find a way to burn things. They use Napalm IRL Flamethrowers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion X. Denver Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 None of the inactive have done anything evil though so the only bad guys are us.Quoted from Chapter 3:“The Inactive is supposedly a mafia power that rules Yugo City from the shadows. They started off as a gang, but grew by making normal citizens ‘disappear’ leaving no trace of them for the police to track down. The people who disappear are rumored to join the ranks of the Inactive and help them expand in power." They're held responsible for the disappearances of citizens and forcing them to join them. Justin also said that Akatsuki believed they were responsible for all the crimes committed in Yugo, granted that's only a conjecture, but a reasonable one. They are only evil by title, not by action.How do you think they earned that title? And they don't go making a ruckus, they do things in the dark, or out of the public knowledge, bit by bit.We do evil things however, sure it hasn't been murder yet but we still have no qualms at it as Donovyn showed and we still caused millions of dollars worth in property damage.Donovyn has no qualms. Or maybe he does.I have written no apparent qualms in characterizing the characters so far, sure. But characterization is an ongoing process as you know. And vigilantes never give a crap about property damage, not even good guys from comic books like Spider-Man who hasn't a shred of evil in his heart.Tim did what he thought was right, CP was honoring a promise and alliance.Yes. But Tim ate out the throats of innocent doctors. And regarded them as collateral damage. And Pikachu stated his thoughts on warring with the Orgy.They are far more noble than us.Not really.Plus as the Co leader of Organization XIII you sort of just shot my boss and friend.Donovyn shot him >.>In this universe, Roxas is a police officer in his early twenties and you're a junior in high school.And I only just introduced the Orgy, even though I'm not saying I won't include you in it somehow (may or may not, depends) don't automatically assume you'll be revealed as the co-leader either.Even if you HAD a reason to be the good guys, which honestly you don't, I still am supposed to arrest you guys because that is my f***ing job.Your job has not been revealed yet. If you even have one.Keep reading brah. Creator, a harpoon gun would only last so long. Trust me, you had to improvise in that situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexev Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 .... Wait, so now we are inactive since Creator made us 'disappear'. Either way we are hardly good guys and haven't you ever heard of show not tell? Action speaks louder than words, and everyone in the ftk acts worse than the Inactive who have yet to really act. Look you might have good reasons but only one group every did anything close to more evil then us and that was Club Pikachu. We are villans as there are only two villanous groups and one lost. The other has to do something first to count. Plus no one ever acknowledges the morbidity of getting a bunch of teenagers to be cold blooded killers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sploda Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 @FusionI meant for the shish-kabob thing... Anyway this Fiction has to include both Nexev and My association with the Organization otherwise I will demand that I move to another city leaving you guys behind forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord JZ of the Enigma Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 if anything I doubt Fusion is supposed to make us look like prime example heroes from the beginning, if you think about it, it's the realistic approach that any organization can be seen as a violent gang, depending on the eye of the beholder, from the point of view of the local people they will see it as terrorism, but to those that know what is happening it's a way to bring forth the attention of their enemies, you cannot make war against your true enemies unless they see you as a threat in the first place, that was the first rule I learned of gang warfare. So, yeah, we look like monsters, but what the FTK is doing is trying to show that they are not to be trifled with, especially against their primary target. lastly, it's fiction, I'm pretty sure Roxas isn't in the hospital right now, so relax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion X. Denver Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 .... Wait, so now we are inactive since Creator made us 'disappear'.Not completely, FTK people can still live their lives "normally", issues will only arise regarding examples you listed a page or 2 ago. Again, they'll try working around this. And when the Inactive makes someone disappear, they DISAPPEAR. COMPLETELY. NEVER HEARD FROM AGAIN. Except for Hito, who was only supposedly found by El, who killed himself by blowing up part of the building they fought in. But we know better :PEither way we are hardly good guys and haven't you ever heard of show not tell? Action speaks louder than words, and everyone in the ftk acts worse than the Inactive who have yet to really act.The Inactive has done many bad things and have a shady reputation. FTK, they're just more upfront in their actions.Look you might have good reasons but only one group every did anything close to more evil then us and that was Club Pikachu. We are villans as there are only two villanous groups and one lost. The other has to do something first to count. Plus no one ever acknowledges the morbidity of getting a bunch of teenagers to be cold blooded killers.Donovyn has let them know what they may be expected to do when joining the FTK. They were aware they might have to kill. They may not like it, and a lot of them don't, or one would assume they wouldn't, but Chapter 12 has focused mostly on action and everything that happened all at once in the moment. Look, this ain't getting us anywhere, I'll just say, I've taken note of all that was said here and will keep them in mind when I write up future chapters. Aight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 @Chase - OMG dude.......I just noticed......it seems in EVERY fic you are in, you SOMEHOW end up in a coma, and bladly hurt. @Fusion - Yes, listen to Nexev. Remember the show don't tell rule, it makes writing better. If you had actually shown some cases of dissapearances, or at the very least like, someone was reading a newspaper that said soemone dissapeared or such, THEN we'd have a reason to call the Inactive evil. Otherwise, it's just Hito: You took my sword. Give it back!El: No *attacks Hito*Hito: wtf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sploda Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 @FusionLook at the very least stop making us so evil and terrorist like. The way we are acting in the Fiction right now is that everyone but DL and EL are beasts that live only for destruction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexev Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 See it's simple. No matter how evil a person is supposed to be, it's better if people learn about it through example not word of mouth. If Striker attacks Yugo Elementary to capture thousands of children to raise as child soldiers for the inactive, THEN I can assume that the bad guys are big enough threats. But the only thing Inactive do is get attacked themselves, as such it simply seems kinda false. Like maybe LIFE is the good guys but they have a bad rep. I mean, that's apparently what we are going through. Plus we kinda have no way ot with the bill thing, if DL and EL drops out of CK people will notice, BUT if they don't and they get the bill for playing they will be caught. Meanning we are basically on a time limit of say.... one month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sploda Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 See it's simple. No matter how evil a person is supposed to be, it's better if people learn about it through example not word of mouth. If Striker attacks Yugo Elementary to capture thousands of children to raise as child soldiers for the inactive, THEN I can assume that the bad guys are big enough threats. But the only thing Inactive do is get attacked themselves, as such it simply seems kinda false. Like maybe LIFE is the good guys but they have a bad rep. I mean, that's apparently what we are going through. Plus we kinda have no way ot with the bill thing, if DL and EL drops out of CK people will notice, BUT if they don't and they get the bill for playing they will be caught. Meanning we are basically on a time limit of say.... one month. Actually I'd say it would take about a week tops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Make Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 Fusion, you basically said you join FTK or you die. And you can't die cuz your one of the main's. So you said you're joining unless you pull some loosely strung together plot twist out of your @$$ that I'll say was pure crap. :/ Anyways, on the part of FTK being terrorists.... yeah man, the hell? :T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion X. Denver Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 El, you haven't seen what's happened yet and you're automatically assuming stuff, keep reading >__>I should clarify something, Chibi Knights is a FREE MMORPG. You know, like Runescape.Honestly, would DL charge people money to enjoy something fun and full of chibi goodness?Well, even if you say he would, DEF's D.L wouldn't >.>I got this idea for Chapter 13 in my head, it's either gonna hit or miss I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sploda Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 El, you haven't seen what's happened yet and you're automatically assuming stuff, keep reading >__>I should clarify something, Chibi Knights is a FREE MMORPG. You know, like Runescape.Honestly, would DL charge people money to enjoy something fun and full of chibi goodness?Well, even if you say he would, DEF's D.L wouldn't >.>I got this idea for Chapter 13 in my head, it's either gonna hit or miss I think. Then DL made one of the WORST GAMES THE INTERNET HAS EVER SEEN! Honestly you can't have a good game without costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Pennar Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 Then DL made one of the WORST GAMES THE INTERNET HAS EVER SEEN! Honestly you can't have a good game without costs.That had been proven wrong to a degree -points at Wonderland Online- either way, great fanfic, except all the paradoxes in it XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion X. Denver Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 Creator, I'm not saying Chibi Knights is like Runescape, I'm saying it's free like Runescape is free.You can't kill other people when you're out of the Wilderness, but El was able to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dranzer Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 For shizle talk about street life.But realy since when do nerds have the guts to fight with important people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 Chibi Knights >>>>>>>>>>>>> Runescape. And besides, Fusion, even if it DID cost to play, it wouldn't cost ME as I made it >>;; @Dranzer - Since they're numbering over 9000? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexev Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 It's true, you need to pay money to keep up the server, so that itself means that Chibi Knights is screwed once they get the bill for the site from whatever place is keeping them running. Or is someone sent a email to him then that will also cause trouble since it doesn't exist. You can't keep up nonexistence unless you totally disappear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enma Kozato Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 omgwtfbbq Link you're right, I do always end up in a coma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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