New Rule 6 Support(s)

[Sákura Haruno]

How is this not retarded Ice? All it's gonna accomplish is making newbies spam to get posts. The stars will mean less than they do already cause all the newbies will have stars from spam. That's why I say it should be based off of how many cards a member has made. Even then it probably wouldn't work cause the newbs would just make pointless cards to post there. No Support now or ever.

[Headmaster Monokuma]

Trolls just need to stop being a******s to new members and help them out. A newb's gotta start somewhere, and if they start in AoC they're gonna get a bunch of noons saying "best card evar!!!" when the card fails.

 

No support at all.

 

And besides with a rule like this, you'd have to consult Icy.

 

Smesh, at first I wasn't too fond of you, but I've seen you mature and become a respectable member. I can say that you easily have quite a bit of sense, and that's a huge compliment around this site.

 

This is what I'm talking about. By taking away the section where they could actually go and improve, you screw them and they likely won't improve. Putting a limit isn't a good idea, and never will be.

 

@Sakura: It's an inside joke. He has split personalities, and that one is incredibly stupid.

 

It's sarcasm.

[Ice.]

How is this not retarded Ice? All it's gonna accomplish is making newbies spam to get posts. The stars will mean less than they do already cause all the newbies will have stars from spam. That's why I say it should be based off of how many cards a member has made. Even then it probably wouldn't work cause the newbs would just make pointless cards to post there. No Support now or ever.

 

It's the glorious art of Sarcasm. I hate this as much as you.

 

Now, to everybody supporting it, I ask why.

[Βyakuya]

I'm going to hide. Most people here are overcritical or just taking it too far. Just take it. *hides behind a rock*

[chedbonlahor]

I think that this is a good idea, not because I hate noobs and I want to limit their time and influence on YCM because everyone was a new member at some point. I think it's a good idea as it helps new members get a feel for the site, although this is a CARD CREATING site this rule would work as an induction process, as 100 posts into hard to accumulate however at the same time aquiring 100 posts is a good enough period of time to learn about the forum and more importantly the right and wrong way to create cards, so that it why I think that this is in fact a good idea.

[Sákura Haruno]

It's the glorious art of Sarcasm. I hate this as much as you.

 

Now, to everybody supporting it, I ask why.

Cool, This idea wouldn't help anyone. It's a good idea, but there is no good way of doing it fairly. I would like less noobish cards in RC but some newbies make good cards and some people with a lot of cards post bad cards. This would unfortunately solve nothing.

[Ice.]

I think that this is a good idea, not because I hate noobs and I want to limit their time and influence on YCM because everyone was a new member at some point. I think it's a good idea as it helps new members get a feel for the site, although this is a CARD CREATING site this rule would work as an induction process, as 100 posts into hard to accumulate however at the same time aquiring 100 posts is a good enough period of time to learn about the forum and more importantly the right and wrong way to create cards, so that it why I think that this is in fact a good idea.

 

Posts do not equal Card Making skills.

 

So, you're telling me that if I go around spamming in Clubs and Organization or if I join an RP and somehow accumulate 100 posts I'll get great at OCG, I'll become creative and I'll become a decent Cardmaker?

[chedbonlahor]

Posts do not equal Card Making skills.

 

So, you're telling me that if I go around spamming in Clubs and Organization or if I join an RP and somehow accumulate 100 posts I'll get great at OCG, I'll become creative and I'll become a decent Cardmaker?

 

No my friend that is not what I am saying at all. "Great cardmakers are destined to become great cardmakers and noobs are destined to fall" I agree with you that posts do not equal card skill by any means however what I am saying is that posts equal experience on this site. As a new member as you navigate the site and you see and comment on different posts and whitness good OCG and bad OCG as a member you begin to pick up what to do and what not to do when creating a card. The essence of what I am saying is that this rule, whether it is or it isn't implemented will help new members as i have seen to many jump into posting cards wheras if they had some prior knowledge/experience of the site they would have posted a better card and would have had a good platform to build upon. However as I have said.

 

"Great cardmakers are destined to become great cardmakers and noobs are destined to fall"

[Nexev]

I think that this is a good idea, not because I hate noobs and I want to limit their time and influence on YCM because everyone was a new member at some point. I think it's a good idea as it helps new members get a feel for the site, although this is a CARD CREATING site this rule would work as an induction process, as 100 posts into hard to accumulate however at the same time aquiring 100 posts is a good enough period of time to learn about the forum and more importantly the right and wrong way to create cards, so that it why I think that this is in fact a good idea.

Chap I'm rather perplexed are you implying by kicking people out of YCM they are in fact learning about it better.

 

And there is one big thing bothering me.

 

You are not allowed to post in RC, so you aren't really allowed to post cards in any enviroment where they would be taken seriously.

 

How pray tell old bean would that allow them to know the difference from good and bad cardmaking.

 

Though I do see what you are saying, I have never made a realistic card in my life.

 

Thus since I have been here so long I clearly am the greatest cardmaker in the world.

 

IF this made a iota of sense and had a true correlation than wouldn't it mean contests shouldn't exist as the highest poster is naturally better?

 

Yes.

 

And to your new arguement, if that is true about destiny then why not let them make there cards.

 

And how can they comment on cards if they are not allowed in RC.

 

I get it, if you tie a bird with a concrete weight as a child and then cut it off when it is 5 it will magically learn to fly right?

[Headmaster Monokuma]

No my friend that is not what I am saying at all. "Great cardmakers are destined to become great cardmakers and noobs are destined to fall" I agree with you that posts do not equal card skill by any means however what I am saying is that posts equal experience on this site. As a new member as you navigate the site and you see and comment on different posts and whitness good OCG and bad OCG as a member you begin to pick up what to do and what not to do when creating a card. The essence of what I am saying is that this rule, whether it is or it isn't implemented will help new members as i have seen to many jump into posting cards wheras if they had some prior knowledge/experience of the site they would have posted a better card and would have had a good platform to build upon. However as I have said. "Great cardmakers are destined to become great cardmakers and noobs are destined to fall"

 

They may never look at anyone's cards due to not being allowed to post their own cards. It'll just prolong how long it takes them.

 

They don't become good card makers by looking at other cards, they become good card makers by posting their own cards and receiving criticism, and that doesn't happen in AoC.

[Ice.]

No my friend that is not what I am saying at all. "Great cardmakers are destined to become great cardmakers and noobs are destined to fall" I agree with you that posts do not equal card skill by any means however what I am saying is that posts equal experience on this site. As a new member as you navigate the site and you see and comment on different posts and whitness good OCG and bad OCG as a member you begin to pick up what to do and what not to do when creating a card. The essence of what I am saying is that this rule, whether it is or it isn't implemented will help new members as i have seen to many jump into posting cards wheras if they had some prior knowledge/experience of the site they would have posted a better card and would have had a good platform to build upon. However as I have said.

 

"Great cardmakers are destined to become great cardmakers and noobs are destined to fall"

 

No. Not at all. Noobs can be HELPED and become GREAT CARDMAKERS but they have to be able to POST IN RC for them to get PROPER C&C.

 

Knowledge of the site does not help with OCG. Knowledge of the site lets you get around.

 

Please, become a decent cardmaker before you go around saying people suck and stuff.

[chedbonlahor]

Chap I'm rather perplexed are you implying by kicking people out of YCM they are in fact learning about it better.

 

And there is one big thing bothering me.

 

You are not allowed to post in RC, so you aren't really allowed to post cards in any enviroment where they would be taken seriously.

 

How pray tell old bean would that allow them to know the difference from good and bad cardmaking.

 

Though I do see what you are saying, I have never made a realistic card in my life.

 

Thus since I have been here so long I clearly am the greatest cardmaker in the world.

 

IF this made a iota of sense and had a true correlation than wouldn't it mean contests shouldn't exist as the highest poster is naturally better?

 

Yes.

 

 

My friend you have misunderstood what I have said. I don't know where you got that I want to kick newbies out of YCM i think you may have just fabricated that one yourself. What I am trying to put accross (and this is what i said to the other guy see above) is that newbies sometimes rush into things and in a mad excitement post poor cards. I am not saying that the ammount of posts you have has a direct correlation to your skills as a card maker, however what I am saying (and I am going to use you as an example) is that you are quite and experienced member so you will have seen numerous numerous cards and as a result you will almost now have an instinctive knowledge as to what works in a card and what simply does not. The reason I think that this is a good idea is because it gives new members a chance to have a look around and gain some basic vital skeletal knowledge of how to craft cards in the right manner. However as I have said before:

 

"Great cardmakers are destined to become great cardmakers and noobs are destined to fall"

[Headmaster Monokuma]

"Great cardmakers are destined to become great cardmakers and noobs are destined to fall"

 

No. They are not.

 

Noobs can be helped, banning them from posting where they get help keeps them from it. People like you are who create the spamming noobs. If helped, they can become a decent card maker.

[Ice.]

newbies sometimes rush into things and in a mad excitement post poor cards.

 

"Great cardmakers are destined to become great cardmakers and noobs are destined to fall"

 

Then they get proper C&C and learn to become better Cardmakers. Them rushing in like that HELPS them.

 

Do you think you seem smart by repeating that? Because you seem like a total moron.

[chedbonlahor]

No. Not at all. Noobs can be HELPED and become GREAT CARDMAKERS but they have to be able to POST IN RC for them to get PROPER C&C.

 

Knowledge of the site does not help with OCG. Knowledge of the site lets you get around.

 

Please, become a decent cardmaker before you go around saying people suck and stuff.

 

Excuse me I take offence to that. If you look through my posts not once have I accused anyone, not once have I insulted anyone and not once have I said "people suck" I defy you to find me the post where I say anything along those lines, if you do i will appoloise if not then I wish for an appology. I have learned a lot as a card maker by watching other peoples' OCG attempts. I have seen good OCG and I have seen bad OCG and as a result my experiences on the site helped me become a better card maker in terms of my OCG abitlity. You say that "noobs can be HELPED" and I agree completely I think that this propoes 100 posts idea is a good way to show them what works and what doesnt.

 

No. They are not.

 

Noobs can be helped, banning them from posting where they get help keeps them from it. People like you are who create the spamming noobs. If helped, they can become a decent card maker.

 

I actually mean that in the long term as like a general phrase.

[Headmaster Monokuma]

Excuse me I take offence to that. If you look through my posts not once have I accused anyone, not once have I insulted anyone and not once have I said "people suck" I defy you to find me the post where I say anything along those lines, if you do i will appoloise if not then I wish for an appology. I have learned a lot as a card maker by watching other peoples' OCG attempts. I have seen good OCG and I have seen bad OCG and as a result my experiences on the site helped me become a better card maker in terms of my OCG abitlity. You say that "noobs can be HELPED" and I agree completely I think that this propoes 100 posts idea is a good way to show them what works and what doesnt.

 

*I know I said I wasn't going to join in on this, but I have to.*

 

 

Okay, I make one hundred posts in RP. I am now a great cardmaker.

 

Where the f*** is your logic here?

 

 

THERE IS NONE.

 

Next, long term. What long term? They aren't allowed to get real opinions on their cards if they can't post it in RC.

[chedbonlahor]

Then they get proper C&C and learn to become better Cardmakers. Them rushing in like that HELPS them.

 

Do you think you seem smart by repeating that? Because you seem like a total moron.

 

If you carry on calling me a moron and insulting me I will just have to get the moderators in, I am having a civilised discussion with you please do not result to childish name calling.

 

Thank you

 

*I know I said I wasn't going to join in on this, but I have to.*

 

 

Okay, I make one hundred posts in RP. I am now a great cardmaker.

 

Where the f*** is your logic here?

 

 

THERE IS NONE.

 

OMG I never said that will you please listen. I said if you read my posts that, the number of posts has no correlation at all with how good you are as a card maker. What I am saying is that as a new member there would be no harm done to have a look around the site whitnessing all it has to offer in terms of posted cards etc and gaining vital knowledge needed to post cards. The 100 post rule would allow new members to pick up on things such as OCG image use and real card craft, I am not saying that 100 posts will make you an incredible card maker lol no, however what I am saying is that perhaps in the space that it takes for a new member to accumulate 100 posts they will learn important skills that will make them better card makers.

[Ice.]

Excuse me I take offence to that. If you look through my posts not once have I accused anyone, not once have I insulted anyone and not once have I said "people suck" I defy you to find me the post where I say anything along those lines, if you do i will appoloise if not then I wish for an appology. I have learned a lot as a card maker by watching other peoples' OCG attempts. I have seen good OCG and I have seen bad OCG and as a result my experiences on the site helped me become a better card maker in terms of my OCG abitlity. You say that "noobs can be HELPED" and I agree completely I think that this propoes 100 posts idea is a good way to show them what works and what doesnt.

 

You're going around saying that the noobs make poor cards, essentially saying they suck.

 

 

 

Now, once again, you don't get it. They can be helped with C&C, not roaming around the damn forum. If they can't make threads, they leave that section. They won't go there just to look at others cards when they can't make their own. Therefore, this 100 post idea cannot help them. Explain how getting to know the forum can help them make cards.

 

Oh right, it can't.

[Smesh]

Cuz moron is such a childish word.

 

This thread lacks Crab Helmet

[Zorbak55]

Support. I saw a thread that was simply a card of barack obama, and I thought okay, noobs will be noobs. Then, I realized it was a 12 star vanilla with 9999 atk and def. It had 10 pages of comments, and no one was locking it. Then, I saw another page with five awesome totally balanced cards with flawless ocg and effects that everyone liked, and it had 1 1/2 pages. It annoys me when you have a new card maker who is not as good, and a great guy with four stars who creates awesome cards, and the new guys gets all of the attention from making a bad card.

[Headmaster Monokuma]

OMG I never said that will you please listen. I said if you read my posts that, the number of posts has no correlation at all with how good you are as a card maker. What I am saying is that as a new member there would be no harm done to have a look around the site whitnessing all it has to offer in terms of posted cards etc and gaining vital knowledge needed to post cards. The 100 post rule would allow new members to pick up on things such as OCG image use and real card craft, I am not saying that 100 posts will make you an incredible card maker lol no, however what I am saying is that perhaps in the space that it takes for a new member to accumulate 100 posts they will learn important skills that will make them better card makers.

 

 

No, you missed my point.

 

THEY DO NOT IMPROVE BY NOT POSTING THEIR CARDS IN REALISTIC CARDS. THEY DO NOT IMPROVE BY LOOKING AT THE SECTION OF ANY OTHER CARDS. THEY DO NOT IMPROVE BY LOOKING AT THE ROLEPLAYING SECTION. OR THE CLUBS. OR THE GRAPHICS. OR THE POP CULTURE. ARE YOU GETTING IT YET?

 

The only section that will improve them IS Realistic Cards. Get over it.

[chedbonlahor]

You're going around saying that the noobs make poor cards, essentially saying they suck.

 

 

 

Now, once again, you don't get it. They can be helped with C&C, not roaming around the damn forum. If they can't make threads, they leave that section. They won't go there just to look at others cards when they can't make their own. Therefore, this 100 post idea cannot help them. Explain how getting to know the forum can help them make cards.

 

Oh right, it can't.

 

Listen, you are putting words into my mouth and I simply do not appreciate that, I want you to read every word I right so that you dont get confused. I am sympathetic towards new members (I never call them noobs I call them new members as a testament to that) I appreciate that at one point in time every member on this site was a new member. What I am saying (**LISTEN**) is that more often that not some new members who have never seen the site before and have never seen how to make a card will post a card with fundamental flaws within it. I am not predicating all new members like this however the majority of new members (myself included) lacked a vital ingredient to creating new cards. Myself for example when I started I created a Zelda set which I thought was fantastic however having seen some of the great and not so great cardmakers on the site I realised that my images and my OCG was poor. Fast forward to now and my images and OCG are of a good standard. What I am saying is that no new member is perfect and within the time it takes to accumulate 100 posts they can learn the vital essentials needed to craft cards of good quality.

 

 

I am still waiting on my appology for before.

 

 

No, you missed my point.

 

THEY DO NOT IMPROVE BY NOT POSTING THEIR CARDS IN REALISTIC CARDS. THEY DO NOT IMPROVE BY LOOKING AT THE SECTION OF ANY OTHER CARDS. THEY DO NOT IMPROVE BY LOOKING AT THE ROLEPLAYING SECTION. OR THE CLUBS. OR THE GRAPHICS. OR THE POP CULTURE. ARE YOU GETTING IT YET?

 

The only section that will improve them IS Realistic Cards. Get over it.

 

yes I agree and they have every right to post their oppinions and questions in the realistic cards section. If they feel compelled to post cards if the think they are ready how about the AoC section.

[Headmaster Monokuma]

I am still waiting on my appology for before.

 

 

 

yes I agree and they have every right to post their oppinions and questions in the realistic cards section. If they feel compelled to post cards if the think they are ready how about the AoC section.

 

 

He doesn't need to apologize. He was making a point.

 

And the Any other Cards section doesn't offer any improvement. Ever.

[chedbonlahor]

Can someone get one of the mods in here to sort this out thanks. Kuri I would PM one of the moderators you suggestion otherwise this will become a mass brawl, if it does I pick Sheik.

[Kuri]

*PMing Super*