Hello

[Lightning]

This is too all the older members here that for some reason give the new guys a hard time on the cards they make, firstly you have to expect mistakes cause there new guys and it doesn't help someone new when they get critizized for making a beginners mistake for example OCG you can't expect them to get it all in a day they are going to make mistakes it's your job as an older member to help them when they make a mistake not to insult them, I'm not trying to be mean or anything but I"ve seen how some older members treat newer members and I don't like it all, New members will never learn if you keep putting them down for making simple beginner mistakes

[Smesh]

I agree with you. But most of the time, if an older member makes fun of the newer member, it's probably because they didn't follow the rules. They still shouldnt do it, but theres a somewhat better reason.

As for the OCG corrections and such, they may not be trying to be mean, but trying to be helpful by giving you critisism.

[Lightning]

Well it just does'nt suite well with me you know they can just as easily correct them on the OCG without Critisizem

[Smesh]

The critisism helps you get better, especially if its negative. At least for me, thats how it works.

[Anti-Apocryphal]

The only way you're going to learn is it your mistakes are pointed out.
I myself don't rate cards unless requested to.

[Lightning]

I'm sorry I don't see the sense in that

[Anti-Apocryphal]

What I'm saying is this:
You can only learn from your mistakes. If they aren't pointed out, you won't learn.

[Lightning]

I know that but when some people point out the mistakes it seems like they hate there guts for making an amaturish mistake when actually they are just rookies I'm not saying not to point out the mistakes but be postive about it if people did that then I'm sure the New guys would get better faster

[Anti-Apocryphal]

In that case, say a New Member posts a card with lots of OCG mistakes. And a blurry picture.
You just want me to point out this:
"You have a few mistakes, and the picture's hard to read. But for a New Member, 8/10"
When they had 10 mistakes and an impossible-to-see picture?
I think not.
What it should be is us pointing out everything and being a little easy on the [b]rating[/b], not the other stuff.
What you're saying is be easy on [b]everything[/b], which doesn't always work.

[Lightning]

I don't mean it like that like point the errors out in a postive way don't call them like Noobs cause that's just rude you know just be nicer to them is all I'm saying cause remember everyone who is here that's not new was new once and I'm sure they did'nt appreciate otherr people calling them noobs or some other rude thing so don't do it to these New guys

[Quantum™]

Hey, I'm er...pretty new. Constructive criticism would be reasonable, because if members just say the card is extremely bad, along with a few foul-mouthed words, then they're just immature aren't they? Numbers, aren't really required unless the member gives upon a request. No criticism, no pointing out, they aren't going to get better. But in a good manner, the member should accept criticism, and the bad commentator should reconsider themselves about their behaviour towards the member. And please guys, don't be too nice to any new members, agreed with Future Paradise. Unacceptable behaviour is just cruel, unnecessary and the commentator should be deal with accordingly before any more bad commentating mistakes occur.

[Anti-Apocryphal]

Thank you for explaining that.
Tell them the errors in a nice way because they're new.
I never said cuss them out while pointing out the errors.

[Lightning]

Alright

[Quantum™]

I apologise but I think you misunderstood me. I meant if cussing did happen to the poor member, the commentator should be dealt with accordingly and should change their behaviour and be nice. Don't give them too much of an advantage towards their cards, because the next thing is if they created another thread with a card which may be seemingly worse, you've got to tell the truth about it properly, but then the member could give up and say ''I suck'' and then ditch YCM. They will learn more from of their mistakes if you be more truthful and will be on their way to becoming a better, card maker. No criticism, no learning. And unfortunately we can't help it with the old members because some of will still remain immature about criticism. It's the commentator, they're responsible for own their behaviour, and if serious you got the mods covering the poor members. Just reassure the poor member. Help em' out with card making, and they should thank you good enough.

[Lightning]

That's the whole point of this

[Saturn of Elemia]

I can't say I blame you for how you feel. A lot of veterans do tend to be a little harsh on newer members (and honestly, I kinda wish they weren't - as it can sometimes drive members away).

I try not to be - since I (like every other veteran) were new once.

[Βyakuya]

I am an easy member I am a hard criticizer when it comes to n00b cards. I point out the criticism because I am trying to help people more better, and they are supposed to take it as we are trying to be more specific and detailed on your card. the cards you made will never be the greatest in the world. But I won't blame you. People have took it too far. But it's no big deal. Just learn from your mistakes.

[♥ ЅϯᵲåώӀӞ℮ᴙʀɣ−ɴɨɨ−ƈħåɴ ♥]

[center][color="#9932CC"][b]Byakuya Kuchiki, not the time to be pretending you're self-righteous. Please stop with the contradictory comments.[/b][/color][/center]

[Icy]

[quote name='Byakuya Kuchiki' timestamp='1282397953' post='4549855']
I am an easy member I am a hard criticizer when it comes to n00b cards. I point out the criticism because I am trying to help people more better, and they are supposed to take it as we are trying to be more specific and detailed on your card. the cards you made will never be the greatest in the world. But I won't blame you. People have took it too far. But it's no big deal. Just learn from your mistakes.
[/quote]

Pointing out mistakes is far less beneficial than explaining to them how they can improve. Agreed with Mia.

As for Lightning: http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/topic/121647-realistic-card-rules-updated-8182010/ , Read the Conclusion in the first post and drop me a PM.

[Tortoise Kyle]

It's not that the older members are meaner to newer members, you guys take critisism like we hate you, when we don't. There also shouldn't be any reason for you to be making these mistakes if you'd just done your homework.

[Lightning]

Your missing the point I understand that Critizisem is important but some of the older people not all of them but some reply in like a negative way like maybe they'd swear or call the person a noob which does'nt help the new guy at all it only makes him or her feel like dirt