CMRenji Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 I've had a similar problem Ched. My sister got an account on the same computer(because it was the only one we had and we didn't know the rules) on YCM long ago, quit and never came back. I PM'd Phantom Roxas and told him about it. He said to speak to another Mod so I PM'd Crab Helmet. I have not gotten a reply from Crab Helmet or been banned so I'm pretty sure they let me off the hook. I don't support because I believe members should just inform a Mod about this and explain themselves. To any Mods reading this, neither of us Rep spammed or did anything bad. Her account hasn't been active in over a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankee Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 It's easy to see those who mullti account. One ip for one account is simply not fair and plausable, I have a brother his name is oliver and I didnt let him join for this very reason because you would ban him or me. Do you know what that is like when your own brother says to you can I make an account on YCM and I have to say no its terrible because we live in fear of getting banned. I let him use my account sometimes but he cant express himself in his own way with his own profile and I think that's unfair. What's even worse is that fact that my friend James came round yesterday and he wanted to join. I told him of the dangers but he still joined and he got banned. Moderators the answer to the problem is not to use the phrase "2 accounts 1 IP Therefore multiaccounting" because that is wrong think about siblings who share a computer. The way you combat the problem of multi accounting is by actually checking the accounts first, sending the accounts a first warning and a final warning and then a ban not just an immediate ban. I believe that YCM would become a better place as a result, all it requires is hard work from the mods and a little bit of trust and leiniency towards the many mature members on the site like myself. Or, idk, you can PM a Super, and get it straightened out BEFORE you make the account.Also, no, it's NOT easy to see those who multi account.Some of the multi accounts I've banned have been members here for 3 years, while the new one was made a year earlier. Nobody noticed. A random IP check found them out.Sir, you cannot win this.Why make a rule as stupid as having two accounts, opening to the door to trolls, when you can just PM a super such as myself?I know why you're doing this, anyway.I banned one of your three accounts, who is apparently your friend. However, that's on you. You should have PM'd a super first, before letting him join. You've been here long enough to know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chedbonlahor Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 Or, idk, you can PM a Super, and get it straightened out BEFORE you make the account.Also, no, it's NOT easy to see those who multi account.Some of the multi accounts I've banned have been members here for 3 years, while the new one was made a year earlier. Nobody noticed. A random IP check found them out.Sir, you cannot win this.Why make a rule as stupid as having two accounts, opening to the door to trolls, when you can just PM a super such as myself?I know why you're doing this, anyway.I banned one of your three accounts, who is apparently your friend. However, that's on you. You should have PM'd a super first, before letting him join. You've been here long enough to know that. You have simply destroyed your own argument as you said "you can just PM a super such as myself" I did and you dont believe me. I am a member of many forums and I have never encountered a moderator such as yourself. If I was lying I would not be fighting so hard to get my friend James back on the site. Allow me to clarify yet again for you chedbonlahor = meXIII THE BRUTE = My brother oliver (who was banned for posting a stupid card)STROM = my friend James who was banned for no reason you are simply being unreasonable and not listening to me I am figihting for my friend, most people know me on here as a honourable user I would never double account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JG. Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 No support. One account per IP. Why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chairman ali Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 OKAY PEOPLE I HAVE THE BEST IDEA kill your brothers and sisters. [/topic] But seriously, no support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmegaWave Posted August 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 Great job everyone! Let's keep proving to the Non-Supporters and Mods with their heads stuck in their asses that they're WRONG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtemisFowl Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 Not only does multiple accounts put more on MODS but it promotes Spamming, trolling, and constant other issues that generally affect everyone. This. PMing a super mod easily solves this problem. No support. Yes. It clearly states when you sign up if you have siblings to just notify them. No support whatsoever. We're not wrong. If your not smart enough to realize that one PM sloves the entire thing then . . . whoose the reall one with their head up their ass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chedbonlahor Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 Yes. It clearly states when you sign up if you have siblings to just notify them. No support whatsoever. We're not wrong. If your not smart enough to realize that one PM sloves the entire thing then . . . whoose the reall one with their head up their ass? I PM'd Yankeefan and he responded by saying that I was lying so the system is simply not fair, it has to work both ways!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JoshIcy Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 I PM'd Yankeefan and he responded by saying that I was lying so the system is simply not fair, it has to work both ways!!! No it doesn't. YCM is not a democracy, the benefits from what you're asking are far less than the benefits from keeping the rule intact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥Łövëły-Ċħän♥ Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 A ) I know Yankee, he's not entirely that blunt nor that rude.B ) A Mod giving his answer neither constitutes foul play nor one sided systeming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chedbonlahor Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 No it doesn't. YCM is not a democracy, the benefits from what you're asking are far less than the benefits from keeping the rule intact. I agree with the rule but if you say PM yankeefan and It will be ok and I do PM yankeefan and he claims I am lying when I am not, then it falls appart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Limited Edition KING Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 You have simply destroyed your own argument as you said "you can just PM a super such as myself" I did and you dont believe me. I am a member of many forums and I have never encountered a moderator such as yourself. If I was lying I would not be fighting so hard to get my friend James back on the site. Allow me to clarify yet again for you Did you PM the Super Mod BEFORE your friend made an account or after he got banned? But what I want to know is why didn't you just show him the things you can do using your account and then let him decide on his own if he wanted to make an account when he went home. chedbonlahor = meXIII THE BRUTE = My brother oliver (who was banned for posting a stupid card) "Posting a stupid card"? what was the real reason he was given warnings? Because I am sure that Custom Cards mods won't ban a person for making 1 stupid card. STROM = my friend James who was banned for no reason HE WAS BANNED BECAUSE OF YOUR MISTAKE OF MAKING HIM AN ACCOUNT ON YOUR IP ADDRESS WHICH MODERATORS THOUGHT WAS A DOUBLE ACCOUNT BECAUSE YOU FAILED TO INFORM THE MODERATORS ABOUT THIS. you are simply being unreasonable and not listening to me I am figihting for my friend, most people know me on here as a honourable user I would never double account. Once more, it's your responsability to inform a moderator about this beforehand. I mean if you just go and make an account without telling the mods beforehand then are they going to believe its your friend? I would say no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.:Shaymin:. Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 I support this It seems like a good idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chedbonlahor Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 Once more, it's your responsability to inform a moderator about this beforehand. I mean if you just go and make an account without telling the mods beforehand then are they going to believe its your friend? I would say no. I did inform the moderators when they questioned but they thought I was lying, I can't win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Limited Edition KING Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 I did inform the moderators when they questioned but they thought I was lying, I can't winDid you inform them before the account was made though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chedbonlahor Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 Did you inform them before the account was made though? No because I didnt realise that those were the rediculous rules. I am a member of many forums such as bungie.net and I have never encountered anything as rediculous as this before. The fact is that I made a minor mistake in not informing them PRIOR to the creation but I informed them immediately when they questioned me. I explaiined but they think I am lying so they banned my innocent friend, I don;t understand why if I admit I may have made a casual mistake they cant unban him. What can I do to prove that I am truthful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥Łövëły-Ċħän♥ Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 I did inform the moderators when they questioned but they thought I was lying, I can't winI'm sorry and i mean no offense but you cant really say anything about the mods decision based on them believing you lied. Its their opinion. They don't know you personally so they've little to go on and their going on their instincts so its fair enough. Not everyone can win. They made their decision and theres nothing that can be done. It's time to accept it. <------ Debie downer much =D? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cin Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 You said you informed them, but by the sound of it you only informed them after they were already questioning you. I can't blame Yankee for not believing you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chedbonlahor Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 You said you informed them, but by the sound of it you only informed them after they were already questioning you. I can't blame Yankee for not believing you. Why though, I have a respectable profile I am well known so the risk of double accounting to a well informed MOD is minimal. I understand that I made a small error in not informing a MOD immediately however I have only found out about this ruling of 1 IP 1 account yesterday. I am a member of multiple forums and I have never heard of anything like this before. PS: On a personal note I resent being called a liar because I simply am not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Prince_of_Death Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 I should say this, I started my account at my school. and there were about 3 others who created an account here too from there. then there is the place I go to, they have 2 or 3 people there other than me who made an account there...well I already had my account, I showed the site to them and they made an account. I know there are many users here with siblings. I know Twin Soul it's the two brothers who share an account since they can only have one account or it will look like they are double accounting and be banned from ycm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chedbonlahor Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 Can I just say that since I am at the center of this I should weigh in. My view on this may have been misconstrewed. As a GENERAL RULE I am actually against 2 accounts for 1 IP because trolls would simply abuse they system. However you must take houses with siblings and friends into account. MODERATORS do your research before you kick anyone, Look closely at their profile: - if you think you have found a double accounter send them a warning, -if they continue then send them a final warning-if it ceases to stop then ban them from the site I believe that this is the fairest way, if you need someone to fill this surveylance I would happly take the job as a moderator, as I am completly against trolling and double accounting and I want YCM to be a fair site for all, even those such as friends or siblings under the same roof Just for clarification as a general (not steadfast) rule it should really be 1 account per IP except for those with friends or siblings and I believe that this could happen enforcing the methods I stated above. I can dream lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankee Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 You have simply destroyed your own argument as you said "you can just PM a super such as myself" I did and you dont believe me. I am a member of many forums and I have never encountered a moderator such as yourself. If I was lying I would not be fighting so hard to get my friend James back on the site. Allow me to clarify yet again for you chedbonlahor = meXIII THE BRUTE = My brother oliver (who was banned for posting a stupid card)STROM = my friend James who was banned for no reason you are simply being unreasonable and not listening to me I am figihting for my friend, most people know me on here as a honourable user I would never double account.Ha. I said to PM a super before you make the accounts.Read before continuing your arguments next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chedbonlahor Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 Ha. I said to PM a super before you make the accounts.Read before continuing your arguments next time. When did you say that to me?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankee Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 The very first line of the post you quoted says in bold letters "Before". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 I don't support, as said on the previous pages, just PM a Super before hand so there are no mix-ups and/or problems later down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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