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http://www.gamespot.com/greatest-video-game-villain/index.html?tag=content_nav%3Bblog

 

So, this is the discussion thread for both the contest, and who you think should have been on there, or should not be on there. Do not just state a name, either way, but instead give reasons as well.

 

Now, to start, I personally THINK Kefka is the greatest villain of all time, but I think Giygas will beat Sephiroth then Kefka. Kefka is the greatest because of all the things he does, he's a nihlist like no other, and he is the definition of sociopath, in a clown form. Giygas will win because he is fear itself, and he is much more infamous than many other villains.

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Lavos.

 

It's a Cosmic Horror that accelerated human evolution, granted them the ability to utilize magic, and waited thousands upon thousands of years just so it could feed off all sapient life when they advanced far enough. It brought about an Ice Age simply by landing and burrowing itself into the earth, and crushed two highly advanced civilizations, (one technological and one magical) as if they were nothing but toys. It was so horrific that it caused the very EARTH ITSELF to start to panic; and through all that, people aren't even entirely sure it was sapient. Or if it was, it was simply following the normal lifecycle of its race; given that it reproduced over the course of the game, it gives rise to the horrific possibility that Lavos is just a single member of a species, spread out across the galaxy, who feed by devouring entire planetary civilizations.

 

To destroy him required people to travel through time, an ability that's probably not too common and Lavos couldn't really be expected to deal with such a thing, especially when you view it as an immensely powerful animal. Even after being destroyed, it didn't give up; it adapted to time travel, merged its consciousness with that of a human (probably awarding it sapience), and became possibly the strongest villain in existence; the Time Devourer. Who existed in every point inside time AND outside time, and within every parallel dimension, and was impossible to kill because it would regenerate itself with a copy from the Future/The Past/Another Dimension. Eventually, it only died because it WANTED to- (the Chrono Cross) -as the theological stance it used to justify eating ALL OF TIME AND SPACE was proved wrong.

 

So yeah, I'd say Lavos is a pretty jabroniin' villain.

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Also, I am disappoint, looking at the list... Iska, from Soul Calibur Legends, deserves to be on here! He went from an orphan, with a dead sis, to the court jester for an emperor of the Holy roman Empire. Then, he killed the emperor, somehow, and put in a homunculi thing that looked just like his sister (Never mind all magic/science said it was impossible in the game) in the place of the emperor, in the same armor, yet always in a mask, except when you see her without it, and he controls her. When Siegfried is rescued by the emperor, and told to restore Soul Edge, Iska is sent with hi, to defeat an evil emperor. He is a companion through the whole game. Then, he has the emperor attack Siegfried, and the force of Soul Calibur vs. Edge blasts him out a window. Iska moves to make sure he is dead, but finds him alive, so a new plan is made. When his mentor appears in game for the last time, Iska goes somewhere with him, kills him, and says he left to his lab. At the end, he kills the Homunculus, after a... creepy scene with him holding her oddly, and proceeds to use Soul Edge and Calibur to make himself an Ultimae being... who is defeated.

 

This is all based around the 1500s.

 

Still, Kefka is the king of the villains.

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I wouldn't really consider Lavos as a villain, as it in fact was a creature that just tried to survive (destroying the planet in the meantime)

 

I don't know who I would consider the greatest villain of all time, Saren? Or that bastard Loghain?

 

*A dozen BioWare bad guys later*

 

Or maybe just Bowser or Ganondorf.

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This is a tough one, because there are many ways to measure a villian.

 

By the magnificence of their plots?

By the audacity of their actions?

By the aftermath of their carnage?

By their relevance to the protagonist?

By the grandness of their ego?

By how much we empathize with their motivations?

By how much we think their lives are worth?

By how much we hate them?

 

Probably a mix of these, and even then, it isn't absolute. For example, a good villian may be a perfectly nice person, but their sense of morality may be so out of whack that he doesn't think twice of slaughtering a population for a pair of sheep. For his dinner meal.

 

....that said, I'll have to give special mention to the Devourlord from Soul Nomad and the World Eaters. The game advertises that you can be the villain and do villainous things. But you can't. Not until you beat the game first. Then you can go on what is aptly named the Demon Path. You go around, doing evil stuff, and recruiting various antagonists you fought against during the main game.

 

...Then the stuff you do becomes too much for them, and they defect. This eventually takes you to a situation where you fight against almost every named character that isn't dead or insane. This includes the villains who left you; quite a feat considering what those guys did during the course of the main game and Demon Path. If you win this battle, you destroy the multiverse with your raw power. If you lose, everyone has to seal you away to save their lives. Losing, obviously, is treated as the good ending.

 

I didn't expect to see the Devourlord on that list, though I would have been pleasantly surprised if it did appear. I purposely left out spoiler information besides a glance at the ending, so if you want to know... play the game yourself, or research the storyline online.

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I like that list...

 

Kefka:

 

By the magnificence of their plots? Check Plus Plus

By the audacity of their actions? Check Plus Plus

By the aftermath of their carnage? Check Plus Plus

By their relevance to the protagonist? Check Plus

By the grandness of their ego? Check Plus Plus

By how much we empathize with their motivations? ... Meh...

By how much we think their lives are worth? Check Plus Plus

By how much we hate them? Hate... Kefka? While I was playing, yes, but I see him as the magnificent dastard he is... Check Plus Plus

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Doctor Nefarious:

 

By the magnificence of their plots? Builds a miniature Death Star that turns peoples into robots. When you destroy it, turns out it was a decoy, and the real one can turn into a giant mecha.

By the audacity of their actions? Turns people into robots, robbing them of their humanity.

By the aftermath of their carnage? Well, not many people die, places are just destroyed.

By their relevance to the protagonist? His nemesis was a fallen idiot hero who often makes things complicated for the protagonist. Nefarious himself is a fan of the protagonist's sidekick best friend's James Bond style of films. They don't become arch-rivals until halfway through the game where he makes his big comeback.

By the grandness of their ego? Definitely.

By how much we empathize with their motivations? We can't. He was an organic being turned robot and developed racism for "squishies".

By how much we think their lives are worth? He's a robot, so he can be repaired or even rebuilt.

By how much we hate them? Well, I actually very much enjoy him because of how hammy he is.

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First reflex was to go all out on Kefka. Seriously, we don't need to talk about it... "I got SAND on my boots!" He's crazy, he has the creaziest laugh in exstance... and did I meantion that he's crazy?

 

But that reflex just didn't make it to this post, because I looked at the list of villains they provided for the vote... and one name just stood out like nothing else:

 

GLaDOS. How can you not say that she's the greatest villain that ever... lived(? Yeah, maybe, you killed her after all :D ) after hearing

Most awesome villain ever. She's still alive, even after you threw every piece of her in an Aperture Science Emergency Intelligence Incinerator (which even killed our beloved Weighted Companion Cube... btw.: it was her that made you kill him. How devilish can it get?)... and she still loves you?! Man, that's some strange peronality right there, Kefka can go eat cake. Machine > God. That how it always was, and GLaDOS prooved it once more.

 

So long,

 

Spoon

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Bowser should win. He's been the best classic villain since the NES. Never has a reptile been so daring as to kidnap a pure princess constantly (34 times). Never has a reptile stole immortality, or has transformed into a divine beast capable of destroying his foes.

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Light Yagami from Death Note is my pick for best villain. And don't anyone say he wasn't a villain. He killed probably thousands of people and demanded people worshp him as a God. That's pretty much as evil as you can get.

 

Light Yagami from Death Note is my pick for best villain. And don't anyone say he wasn't a villain. He killed probably thousands of people and demanded people worshp him as a God. That's pretty much as evil as you can get.

Just realized this was for video games :blink:

 

In that case Big Daddy from Bioshock. He's just completely awsome.

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